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It has been 10 years since the fever dream that was the Natal Reveal.
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I always wondered how the game knew how he was going to move before he did. It must have been pretty advanced tech to be able to anticipate movement. It's a shame the retail release didn't have this in it but it makes sense, it would probably have been too pricey for the average consumerIt's the start of years of awful and awful Kinect sections in their E3s, at least we'll always have the memes:
Yes, I am sure. The technology could do a lot more than it was used to, specially the new version that came out with the Xbox One which was more precise and had more features, but was killed before anyone could use it. Lot of people used it for experimental PC applications, some game devs and animators had used it as a cheap motion capture device and some even for scientific research. Games did nothing new with it though.
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Not only is the myth of Sony telling people to work 2 jobs still persisting, but somehow it's now morphed into 3 jobs.
Neither actually happened.
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Ken said "I will work more hours to afford one." In an interview.
You'll have to excuse people that interpret that as "You should work two jobs" seeing as most people already work a full work week or more as is.
Because it was actually four jobs, but two of them were only part time!
Kinect's trajectory from reveal to stagnation to rebirth in unrelated industries truly is an intriguing tale.
The Giant Bombcast episode describing this fucking insanity was wild.
"What is your name...?"
"KIINEEEECT"
Amazing.
"What is your name...?"
"KIINEEEECT"
Amazing.
Luckily a hard lesson was learned by many, which is why nobody fell for the power of the cloud marketing that followed.
It was bizarre as fuck. The fucking robes! It felt like Microsoft thought they had gaming's "Next Big Thing", and it was just a solid camera system. Yeah, the Kinect wound up doing better than most enthusiasts thought it would, but still! With how Microsoft clearly thought about it all, it was like they thought they had the iPhone on their hands or some shit, which is pretty funny.
I mean Don Mattrick didn't exactly declare war on the middle class either. It's just hyperbole to reflect paraphrased hilariously bad strategies, Microsoft's being "what you can't afford high speed WiFi or live in an area affluent enough for it? Well we have a product released 8 years ago that you already own that's perfect for you." and Sony's being "we put a shitload of money into this to make it powerful but because we weren't efficient about it we're selling it at a price 50% higher than our competitor. But don't worry, see it as a luxury product that you're proud to own, even if you have to make some significant personal finance decisions in your life to do so"
And to be fair, Kaz did literally say "it requires huge financial investment" which doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as "work multiple jobs" but it's pretty laughable to think about putting a ton of time into financial planning in order to buy a video game console
oh man i forgot how completely fucked this was, i thought it was much more tame.
clearly remember Carmack calling it "a zero-button mouse with a lot of latency on it"
VR controllers really picked up that slack though.
VR controllers really picked up that slack though.
Dance Central was the only thing I enjoyed, and I am ashamed of admiting I thought that Milo demo was real, I wanted to believe dammit!
It's MS Betamax.
It's MS Betamax.
At the time I was pissed at this obvious faking, but then years later discovered that... it wasn't deception, it was a Cirque du Soleil performance that nobody in attendance was under the impression was running in real time.
For the 360 at least, it really was gaming's 'Next Big Thing'.
Given that the sales exceeded MS projections, I doubt they thought they had something like the iPhone on their hands.
What it did was solidly win them the 'family' market in the US after the Wii sales tapered off. Of course they squandered away that advantage with some truly brain dead decision making for the Xbox one.
The person who decided that the xbox one console shouldn't even boot without the Kinect connected should be arrested.
I love Natal/Kinect deeply, because it was the development that caused me to peace on the Xbox platform forever and buy my first new gaming PC in years.
Am I dumb if I find the hastily decision, to not making Kinect a mandatory product to XOne, could have been a mistake?
This decision basically killed Kinect. Because less people will have it, and then it is not worth do develope games for it.
With Kinect, Microsoft could differentiate more from Sony and Nintendo and offer unique experiences. If every XOne had a Kinect now, there would be much more apps for it with special Game experiences.
And the R&D for Kinect would have continued. The demos they showed for XOne looked already very promising.
If Kinect would still exist, it would probably be a much better and advanced product with the launch of Series X. And maybe there would also be some interesting apps for business reasons
This decision basically killed Kinect. Because less people will have it, and then it is not worth do develope games for it.
With Kinect, Microsoft could differentiate more from Sony and Nintendo and offer unique experiences. If every XOne had a Kinect now, there would be much more apps for it with special Game experiences.
And the R&D for Kinect would have continued. The demos they showed for XOne looked already very promising.
If Kinect would still exist, it would probably be a much better and advanced product with the launch of Series X. And maybe there would also be some interesting apps for business reasons
This video is incredible. A more perfect wrap up video of the Kinect could not have been made.
And Peter Molyneux....whew. That guy is a snake oil salesman to his very core.
I think this is the first video game meme I ever found funny.
The irony was that the kinect was better as a research tool than a gaming peripheral. I remember I was in grad school and it was easily the cheapest 3d depth camera available
The weird thing is the Xbox 360 Kinect is still really popular (second hand), especially now that it's pretty hard to get the expensive Kinect 2.0 adapter for the Xbox One S or X. Even if you get one, there are barely any games for it. Lots of families are still buying an old Xbox 360 with a Kinect and a few games - for less than a Kinect 2.0 with the adapter.
It's kind of amazing how Microsoft was able to fuck this up.
It's kind of amazing how Microsoft was able to fuck this up.
This could've worked if they had some software to show why Kinect was needed, but they didn't. Devs had no idea how to use it, the first batch of X1 games didn't use Kinect in any meaningful way.
It could also be that you're too tall, Kinect 1.0 tracking doesn't work right if you're over 6' (the project manager for Kinect 2.0 was like 6'6 so it doesn't have the same issue)
It's great tech... just not for videogames.
Who the hell would want to play a shooter in which you have to make hand gestures to shoot? It's ridiculous.
Who the hell would want to play a shooter in which you have to make hand gestures to shoot? It's ridiculous.
It's the start of years of awful and awful Kinect sections in their E3s, at least we'll always have the memes:
I'll never forget this.
The Industry in general has come a long way.
Holy shit, look at those lyrics, "I'm happy that the carbonite is gone" hahahahahahhah this is precious!!!!
While this was a weird time to be a 360 fan, I had just gotten my elite model in January 2010 so I was too busy playing 4-5 years of backlog games to care about the brand shifting demographics, but if I had had one since 2005 like I wish I had, I would've been more pissed.
Reminds me I need to replace my 360. Disc drive doesn't open without some help now.
Reminds me I need to replace my 360. Disc drive doesn't open without some help now.
Fun watch if you've nothing better to do
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