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It’s now legal to fly with a service horse in the US. Mona Ramouni is one of the few people who does it. (Vox)
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As long as the customer buys enough seats to fit the animal I'm okay with it.
Now, a lot of people have serious allergies when it comes to animals/wildlife, and given how many precautions are taken for individuals with nut allergies on planes these days, I think that could become an issue with service animals on planes and people with allergies.
Or someone brings a therapy/service python on the plane, and Samuel L. Jackson gets on board.
Never would have occurred to me that horses would be a viable alternative to dogs. Surely pigs would be a good option too, they're pretty smart. Or dolphins.
I would suspect (though I do not know) that pigs would have similar issues with Muslims as dogs. I mean, for most people I would imagine there's no real need for a dog alternative.
Pigs also don't have the advantage of lifespan that the horse brings up (which surprised me—I would have assumed the usual rule that smaller breeds tend to live shorter lives.)
Yeah man, fuck blind people.
On topic it's no different than a dog and the longer life span is actually an issue I hadn't thought about. I also didn't know horses could be trained to be service animals for the blind. That's super cool.
If we're basing service animals off longevity then prepare to make room for my service Greenland Shark.
Horses are extremely intuitive. They are able to pick up on a person's emotional state very quickly and with very subtle clues. While dogs are generally better suited for assisting people, the bond that horses share with people can be just as strong, provided of course there was proper training.
See, this is interesting. I'm assuming with appropriate training a horse can learn to intuit a person's emotional state and react accordingly. And not just get spooked and run off like that horse I saw one time that lost its shit when it saw a park bench and went horse crazy.
Very cool story. People saying she shouldn't fly or take a train...come on! I have thought about how hard it must be for people when their service dogs die. This is an interesting and cool option I never thought about.
That horse is Great Dane big. If she's the last one to enter the plane and the first to leave preferably assigned the seat next to the exit then I have no problem with it. The question is who's picking up after that animal? For sure it's not her and the people working in the plane don't get paid enough to deal with assholes and pick up 10 pounds of shit.
Watch how Florida Man tries to argue that his gator is a horse and tries to bring it on an airplane.
If it's a real service animal and not dangerous to other passengers I don't care what the animal is. This person has a real need. A trained animal. It's more or less above board with some questions about evcuation.
If it's a fake or dubiously acquired emotional support animal because you're a selfish asshole and are too cheap to pay to ship your dog then I hope you get caught and fined. I don't feel good about animals being scared and stuck in a hold, but there is a valid reason that doesn't go away just because your therapist hands out papers like candy.
And emotional support animals should have to be trained and certified anyway - because they're not safe even if your emotional support need is true. Which 99% of the time isn't the case.
The number of obviously just pets at the airport nowadays is shocking. I don't need to mention the "lab-mix" (suuuure) that ate a passenger's face. Or the danger inherent in the event of a small crash and fire, with a ferocious panicking Rottweiler running up the aisle. It should be enough to ask our fellow citizens (inclduing sadly several people I know) to stop doing it before the airlines have to take drastic measures that hurt people with real medical or psychological needs.
I was on a flight to palm springs and a fight broke out at the desk over several pet small dogs - because the plane had reached its overall limit of animals allowed and a blind lady obviously had precedence. It turned out two old ladies brining pets did in fact have the right paperwork and booking and the airline had missed the numbers, but it was a perfect example of the scale of abuse. What was shocvking was the two old ladies refusing to acknowledge the blind lady gets instant first dibs. As far as I know they actually let them all on but our flight was delayed.
And frankly it may be likely that someone with minor anxiety should not in fact be allowed to bring a potentially dangerous animal as emotional support.
There are people who literally can't fly because of physical issues. No sane person would ever object to a properly trained guide dog. A horseis an example of an animal that should be well away from fire exits. Not sure how you actually achieve that.
Stop abusing the system, you're an asshole, and eventually some is going to die. Maiming has already happened.
If it's a fake or dubiously acquired emotional support animal because you're a selfish asshole and are too cheap to pay to ship your dog then I hope you get caught and fined. I don't feel good about animals being scared and stuck in a hold, but there is a valid reason that doesn't go away just because your therapist hands out papers like candy.
And emotional support animals should have to be trained and certified anyway - because they're not safe even if your emotional support need is true. Which 99% of the time isn't the case.
The number of obviously just pets at the airport nowadays is shocking. I don't need to mention the "lab-mix" (suuuure) that ate a passenger's face. Or the danger inherent in the event of a small crash and fire, with a ferocious panicking Rottweiler running up the aisle. It should be enough to ask our fellow citizens (inclduing sadly several people I know) to stop doing it before the airlines have to take drastic measures that hurt people with real medical or psychological needs.
I was on a flight to palm springs and a fight broke out at the desk over several pet small dogs - because the plane had reached its overall limit of animals allowed and a blind lady obviously had precedence. It turned out two old ladies brining pets did in fact have the right paperwork and booking and the airline had missed the numbers, but it was a perfect example of the scale of abuse. What was shocvking was the two old ladies refusing to acknowledge the blind lady gets instant first dibs. As far as I know they actually let them all on but our flight was delayed.
And frankly it may be likely that someone with minor anxiety should not in fact be allowed to bring a potentially dangerous animal as emotional support.
There are people who literally can't fly because of physical issues. No sane person would ever object to a properly trained guide dog. A horseis an example of an animal that should be well away from fire exits. Not sure how you actually achieve that.
Stop abusing the system, you're an asshole, and eventually some is going to die. Maiming has already happened.
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Stinkles is right, the whole emotional support animal thing is being abused like crazy by Boomers especially.
Also everybody has back pain or something and needs in the ADA section at festivals and a lot of these places will take a note from a chiropractor instead of an actual disability placard which is insane.
Also everybody has back pain or something and needs in the ADA section at festivals and a lot of these places will take a note from a chiropractor instead of an actual disability placard which is insane.
Miniature horses aren't as touchy, at least in my experience. But even so, horses can adapt to their environment pretty well with someone who understands them.
I don't think a service horse would be good for someone with anxiety, but I could definitely see the advantages of a service horse for the blind.
Service animals (real, trained ones not emotional support animals) are trained to shit on command. Snakedoit.gif
Did you read the article? She has trained her horse to urinate (and assume defecate) on command in a bag. She is the one who takes care of the animal. No different as if it was a service dog. Plus, most flights in the US are 3-5 hours (usually layovers as well) so the animal doesn't have to hold it that long. Just like with service dogs, I'm sure her service horse can also hold it's bladder.
Did people not know people could bring lil horses on flights?
I remember the time we got a lil horse through our check point ... everyone loved it and some TSOs took pictures with it. Was a white family, 2 kids and a mom. Don't remember if it was a pet or support animal, you kinda forget everything other then "Lil Sebastian!".
Also heard about some handlers who brag a group of penguins through the check point and they had to all walk through the metal detector in a line and it was apparently cute af.
I remember the time we got a lil horse through our check point ... everyone loved it and some TSOs took pictures with it. Was a white family, 2 kids and a mom. Don't remember if it was a pet or support animal, you kinda forget everything other then "Lil Sebastian!".
Also heard about some handlers who brag a group of penguins through the check point and they had to all walk through the metal detector in a line and it was apparently cute af.
Yeah, all you need to read is the last paragraph of the article to know that this horse has been a wonderful, positive thing in this lady's life. I would happily sit next to her and Cali on a plane.
Heck if I ever need a service animal in my lifetime, I'd hope I could get a mini-horse instead of a dog.
Yeah the lifespan thing is actually a big deal. If tech lets us train dolphins to be guide animals for the blind I'm all for that too.
Just make sure they don't discover hentai Porn lol
The airport plumbing (and any other place she does this) must be wrecked if she's flushing poop bags