Well, not quite. It wasn't the Halo we know today until Bungie was purchased by Microsoft though.
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Isn't it time for Microsoft to bet on new IPs created by the first party studios?
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Well, not quite. It wasn't the Halo we know today until Bungie was purchased by Microsoft though.
It's ok, people speculate and wish for things, I don't think anyone is concern trolling here so no need to defend Microsoft's approach - yes, we're all waiting for the event eagerly (I am really curious and hope I like what I see so my decision to buy Series X goes from 'maybe' to 'certainly' :) I think some people would genuinely like to see new stuff.
Oh yeah. That moment when you realize Steve Jobs introduced Halo :)
Xbox going through the ringer now more than ever here on ERA. Woof. Y'all need to chill the fuck out.
Microsoft should get a Japanese developer like PlatinumGames or From Software to reboot this game.
Unless you make big cinematic AAA games or Japanese games, you are gonna have a hard time on ERA :p You can see it from MS either getting shit for only doing sequels, or for getting shit for doing new IPs like Grounded and Bleeding Edge.
Well, good news!
They have lots of new IPs in development!
Whether they turn out to be great or not remains to be seen, but let's not pretend like they aren't making new IPs.
They have lots of new IPs in development!
Whether they turn out to be great or not remains to be seen, but let's not pretend like they aren't making new IPs.
Isnt this why they bought all those studios. I think they already are betting on new IP from 1st party studios. We just aren't in the know yet.
So, because their exclusives weren't made originally by first party studios, they were automatically not worth playing? Is that what you're suggesting?
I believe this is happening because people are worried MS is going to fuck it up again. This is a crucial time for MS to show us they understand games. Look at their May event, where they promised they would show gameplay and then showed no gameplay. I dont really worry about the games shown per se, Scarlet Nexus looked good to me,
Its just that a platform holder with a huge stake on their new console blatantly lied and misinformed customers. If you say you are going to show gameplay, show it MS. Otherwise say 'no gameplay' this time, sorry. But then they turned around and blamed players for having the wrong expectations. Do they think we are stupid?
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Do you always mention Bleeding Edge and Grounded, these games were produced in 20 months already under order from Microsoft or were other projects that came as a gift with NT and Obisidian ?? Because if so, it would still be the same case that I've been raising. Purchased and not created projects.
Yeah, it's beyond ridiculous. Some of those IPs are awesome, and giving them up just because Microsoft didn't invent them is just stupid.
Fable may not be a new IP, but it's the game I'm the most excited for out of all first party games by Sony and Microsoft.
I quoted Sea of Thieves. But what other new IP was created by Microsoft's first party studios in this generation? The colleague there mentioned Bleeding Edge and Grounded, a pair of AA games from the studios purchased in 2018. I have my doubts that these games have been created, developed and released under the wings of Microsoft, but I have to give the benefit of the doubt.
However, does that seem enough?
Sorry I am out of the loop, but is there a new Fable game coming out? I thought they cancelled the kinect-only Fable and that was the last I heard about the series?
This should all begin to turn around in literally the next few weeks though,they have many studios now.It's a shame their biggest studios are seemingly tied to single franchises though as that means if like me you've no interest in them then they may never make a game that interests me.
These threads feel so premature before we even see their first party lineup in July. They didn't buy all these studios for nothing, it's obvious some of them will be working on new IP. Especially so Obsidian, Rare and InXile if I had to guess.
I mean, that literally just isn't true.
To quote Aaron Greenberg over the couple of days after:
I get the feeling being wrong won't stop you being outraged though.
No offense, but I honestly think you have a very limited and flawed understanding of the highly collaborative and iterative process that is game development. You seem to think someone has an idea on day 1, and that is where the creative aspect of game design ends.
Games change constantly during development, and the publisher is deeply involved in that. If you are somehow trying to tell yourself that Halo is not really a Microsoft IP because Bungie showed a very different game once at MAc World, then I don't know what to tell you...
Very heavily implied Playground Games is working on a new proper Fable. They hired a bunch of industry talent for a new project and there's a lot of smoke, almost a clearly visible fire, that team is gonna do Fable. As in the Forza Horizon devs.
Naughty Dog begs to differ at the height of Uncharted popularity they made TLOU which couldn't have been a bigger shift in direction for the studio.
July is coming people. A lot of these questions will be be answered to your satisfaction or not.
LOL what? Man that post made me feel old. Do some google searching.
Hey as I said I enjoyed what they showed us, I liked Scarlet Nexus and am looking forward to play it on my XOX soon,
That does not mean they didnt fuck it up. I would have watched it regardless, no need to make shit up.
They hit the brakes sometime early this gen, butseem to have started publishing again. I Theyre working on it im sure. I also think this is part of the reaso why they are going to have no next gen exclusives for awhile. They started a little late and im sure theyll break that policy as soon as they have something ready.
They traded an over the shoulder linear action game where you shoot and occasionally stealth/punch for an over the shoulder linear action game where you stealth/punch and occasionally shoot. Honestly, I can imagine bigger shifts.
Also they immediately went back and made two more Uncharted games.
Let's wait for their next-gen showcase before telling them what they should or should not do, shall we?
This thread makes no sense. All those games were financially pushed by Microsoft. Who cares if they worked through 2nd party relationships to do it? All you're doing here is shitting on Microsoft for having a business approach where they take chances with 2nd party developers. It makes no sense...
Didn't they say they had like 16 games all by their studios?
It was a fuck-up, I found that event a huge misreading of the room and massively disappointing, but to say they tried to blame their mistakes on the viewers and that they treated them like they're stupid was a lil bit of fiction. That's all.
The kinect Fable game came out in 2012. The weird co-op mashup game Fable Legends (not Kinect based) was cancelled this gen.
It is believed that Playground's new RPG is Fable.
You're trying to put words on me that I didn't write.
I am saying from the beginning that Microsoft relies more on the purchase of IPs and studios than it invests in the organic composition of Xbox Games Studios and new ideas.
Your answer does not change my argument. Halo is a Microsoft IP because the company bought it from Bungie. But is this a creation of Microsoft itself as is, for example, Zelda for Nintendo or Uncharted for Sony? Do not.
Bleeding Edge and Grounded are games that started your creative process within Microsoft? I don't know, and you also don't seem to know or don't want to say. I give the benefit of the doubt that yes. Then there would be two AAs that come from Microsoft funding, joining the Sea of Thives and Forza team.
I never touched on the discussion of who owns the IP. I am arguing about Microsoft's business approach compared to its peers.
The Kinect only fable came out in like 2012 or 13. You are thinking of fable legends I guess. New fable game is rumored to be done by playground.
I get it tho, a mainline fable hasn't released in 10 years, but them announcing fable in 2020 would get eyerolls as "another fable" lol
Right, they aint even have a conference 😂. Shit they've probably got the most announced new ips out of all the console makers
I think with all the rumours circling about the Xbox July event, we better wait until after that before throwing this question out there.
I for one will buy Xbox as long as they keep making Halo, but I agree with your main point that along with mainstays, fresh new ideas are welcome. I believe we will get those in July.
(But if they announce a new Fable I will lose my shit)
I for one will buy Xbox as long as they keep making Halo, but I agree with your main point that along with mainstays, fresh new ideas are welcome. I believe we will get those in July.
(But if they announce a new Fable I will lose my shit)
There is no fundamental difference between these two things because at the end of the day, they are all exclusive IP managed by the publisher used to define their hardware.
Is this really a good example? ND has only done TLOU and Uncharted for the last 13 years
Prior to the latter stages of this generation, Microsoft had a skewed approach where they worked with third party developers to bring exclusives to their consoles more than they had internal development. Has this somewhat stopped them from having their own IP? No, they own a lot of IP, a lot of quality IP that they have not revisited. This is construction. It does not matter that it was done by an outside party or whether it was in house; it is something you can always go back to if you get a right partner.
This could be games like Blinx, Fable, Conker, Brute Force, Perfect Dark, Banjo, Mech Assualt, Rallisport Challenge. It is all those IP that they got in the 360 era like Lost Odyssey, Alan Wake, Kameo or games that come with the studios that they have just bought. This is a big portfolio to work with, and something that will be built upon by not only third party developers, but their internal studios over time.
As we speak, we see Flight Simulator coming back, Age of Empires is coming back and there are rumors that Playground is working on Fable while The Initiative may be working on Perfect Dark. All games that fans have wanted.
And you have Master Chief, Marcus Phoenix and now Kait Diaz, going forward if Hellblade is big it will be Senua. Still have to see whether we are getting Joanna Dark back. But this should not be the worry that many make it out to be.
And Halo was a real time strategy game that morphed into a third person shooter before it became a first person shooter. Do you think that Microsoft bought Bungie without knowing what this game was? It was a launch title for the original console.
Microsoft has been there with this game from day one i.e. when it launched. After all, were they not the publisher?