ISIS is coming back (through TFSA)

[Ahhthe90s]

Very graphic video of TFSA (Turkish back free Syrian army) celebrating the death of a YPJ (women wing of the YPG) Kurdish fighter which they killed.

May she rest in peace.

Now you tell me, how do these Jihadi Islamists differ from ISIS? Pro tip; they don't. In fact, the TFSA includes ex/current ISIS fighters.

Warning again, very graphic:
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This books my fucking blood, shame on the USA for abandoning the Kurds, they put their life on the line for USA's shared interests.

 

[Ahhthe90s]

Ohh while I'm at it, here's some Turkish special forces beheading a liked Kurdish fighter; (MAJOR GRAPHIC WARNING)
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These are our NATO allies?

 

[_Karooo]

Turkey needs to be thrown out of nato.

 

[Deleted member 5028]

Yeah don't even link to that shit

 

[xbhaskarx]

Unfortunately this is not at all surprising... Erdogan had NO problem with ISIS being Turkey's southern neighbor, and openly stated that ISIS was preferable to the SDF/YPG/YPJ.

 

[Transistor]

While discussions around ISIS and such organizations are allowed, linking to graphic videos of the sort is not.

 

[Ahhthe90s]

While discussions around ISIS and such organizations are allowed, linking to graphic videos of the sort is not.

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My bad, sorry about that.

 

[Transistor]

My bad, sorry about that.

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It's all good. If you find news articles or things of the sort, feel free to add those into your OP

 

[lint2015]

Why are you posting this instead of just mentioning it, bro. :| Good thing the links were already taken down when I saw it.

Anyway, high chance Donald has some personal interests in Turkey and/or Russia, but the facts may not come out during this administration. America literally has a traitor for president, yo.

 

[Messofanego]

Why is Turkey being so bad about this?!

 

[Blue Skies]

Why is Turkey being so bad about this?!

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Cause there's no one around to tell them to stop

 

[spineduke]

We all knew this was going to happen. War crimes, war crimes, war crimes.

And I hold Donald Trump responsible as much as the Turks.

 

[Tahnit]

NO one wants to see that shit. Please dont link horrific videos.

 

[Neo C.]

Fuck Erdogan and his sympathizers.

 

[Cryptosporidium]

Americans wouldve abandoned us kurds eventually so its hard to say if this wouldve been different with Hillary "lets bomb Libya" Clinton. Though it was most definitely the worst way to pull out, especially him backing Turkey.

Now the war is ending, Turkey gets 22m for a good strech and many kurds/ypg now have to give up their heartland. Least we avoided more death..

 

[Ichthyosaurus]

Americans wouldve abandoned us kurds eventually so its hard to say if this wouldve been different with Hillary "lets bomb Libya" Clinton. Though it was most definitely the worst way to pull out, especially him backing Turkey.

Now the war is ending, Turkey gets 22m for a good strech and many kurds/ypg now have to give up their heartland. Least we avoided more death..

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Don't conflate with every American government with Republicans, they're the ones who abandon the Kurds more often than not. I agree Hillary has her issues with Syria but she's no Republican.

https://theintercept.com/2019/10/07/kurds-syria-turkey-trump-betrayal/

 

[Rand a. Thor]

As much as America acting as the World Police is not a viable or even agreeable stance forever, the swift retreat and complete diplomatic defeat of America from Turkey and Russia in this matter is already destabilizing the area and its only going to get worse in the Middle East. I definitely don't think America had a place in the Middle East, but it was necessary for a world power to exist in the region to keep the peace and allow for the countries to develop on their own terms without constant infighting and it was the lesser of all evils. Russia gaining a foothold in this mess might just mean that it could take America's place or even China, and no one really wants that to happen. That the Kurds are being sacrificed as scapegoats to further foreign benefits and in such a disgraceful way should be grounds not only for impeachment but for imprisonment as well. The USA is diplomatically finished for the next few decades.

 

[nampad]

I was in Turkey for a holiday this year. The racist way I was treated by many of the people left me with a really bad impression.

Combined with all the shitty politics Erdogan is pulling, I am not happy calling them a NATO ally and hope they won't be allowed in the EU.

 

[Deleted member 5127]

As much as America acting as the World Police is not a viable or even agreeable stance forever, the swift retreat and complete diplomatic defeat of America from Turkey and Russia in this matter is already destabilizing the area and its only going to get worse in the Middle East. I definitely don't think America had a place in the Middle East, but it was necessary for a world power to exist in the region to keep the peace and allow for the countries to develop on their own terms without constant infighting and it was the lesser of all evils. Russia gaining a foothold in this mess might just mean that it could take America's place or even China, and no one really wants that to happen. That the Kurds are being sacrificed as scapegoats to further foreign benefits and in such a disgraceful way should be grounds not only for impeachment but for imprisonment as well. The USA is diplomatically finished for the next few decades.

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TBH this sounds like a bandaid that won't solve the actual problems, the Middle East will have to find a way to keep peace and develop without an outsider, because they're not ever going splinter into far away different planets, they will always be close to each other and need to find a way to work and live with each other. The answer to the infighting is most likely secularisation for the whole area.

This ISIS shit sucks tho :(