For people who have already upgraded, does this feel like a bigger generational leap than what we got with PS3/360 to PS4/XB1? Please explain your thinking.
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Is this generational leap bigger than the last?
- Thread starter Datajoy
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Depends. If you go from base PS4 and X1 to next-gen it's huge. If you're coming from Pro and X1X then not
The leap in CPU is doing wonders. So many 60 FPS games from the jump. Plus we already have a few games that stand out as graphical showcases. This gen is off to a great start.
It might be in hardware terms, but in terms of the actual games and visual prowess, absolutely not. Games like Ryse, Killzone Shadow Fall, Infamous SS, Driveclub etc were an enormous jump compared to what came before. Even crossgen games like AC Black Flag looked considerably better than the previous AC III.
This gen because of diminishing returns, the games graphically just do not show anywhere near the kind of jump we had before, hell I'd argue there are current gen games that look better than some of the tentpole next-gen multi-platform stuff, eg AC Unity vs AC Valhalla.
This gen because of diminishing returns, the games graphically just do not show anywhere near the kind of jump we had before, hell I'd argue there are current gen games that look better than some of the tentpole next-gen multi-platform stuff, eg AC Unity vs AC Valhalla.
Nope. The 16 bit largely sprite based systems (snes/genesis) going to consoles capable of 3D polygons, CD audio, and FMV is a leap that will never be topped.
Impossible to describe how big a jump that was in modern terms.
Like the results of recent US election, this poll is way closer than it should be. The answer hands down is ps4/xb1 to ps5/xsx.
Definitely this one ps4/xb1 to XSX/ps5. But the thing is in general games aren't held back by hardware anymore it's more of a budget and time thing for most studios so the whole "generational leap" thing won't be as noticeable outside of things that are easily apparent like load times to most people.
That's why out all of the impressions and reviews for the hardware and games the only things you really hear about being next generation is the dualsense and load times, and even the load times won't seem that insane to someone who has had a higher end pc for a while.
That's why out all of the impressions and reviews for the hardware and games the only things you really hear about being next generation is the dualsense and load times, and even the load times won't seem that insane to someone who has had a higher end pc for a while.
So far I haven't felt like it, at least when held up against the PS4 Pro/One X. People are really glossing over how ancient the PS3/360 felt in 2013. In contrast the last gen still feels like it can hold its own, but a lot of that also has to do with nothing yet being available to really show off what's *only* possible on the new consoles. The gap is clearly there, but I don't think we'll really feel it until next year.
Not really, I have a pro and the PS5 feels like a massive upgrade. Especially the ssd. The load times on the PS4 pro are terrible.
It's the biggest leap since the PS2/GC gen:
- Best backward compatibility we've ever had on consoles
- Smoothest UIs since we started getting sophisticated UIs on consoles, alongside a lot of big QoL features
- Best load times since cartridges
- For the first time since early PS2 days, new hardware is a big enough leap that most games can run at 60fps
- Nice launch line-up(for one of the consoles, at least)
- Some interesting stuff with PS5 controller, for the first time ever from Sony
Jumping to the $500 price point really paid off imo.
- Best backward compatibility we've ever had on consoles
- Smoothest UIs since we started getting sophisticated UIs on consoles, alongside a lot of big QoL features
- Best load times since cartridges
- For the first time since early PS2 days, new hardware is a big enough leap that most games can run at 60fps
- Nice launch line-up(for one of the consoles, at least)
- Some interesting stuff with PS5 controller, for the first time ever from Sony
Jumping to the $500 price point really paid off imo.
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In terms of graphics, I feel like the PS3/360 --> PS4/XB1 leap was bigger. 4k gaming looks nice, but it feels more subtle of a change than the leap from SD to HD was.
In terms of performance, PS5/XSX is wayyyyy bigger of a leap. I am loving SSDs so much and can't wait to see how developers take advantage of it this gen.
In terms of performance, PS5/XSX is wayyyyy bigger of a leap. I am loving SSDs so much and can't wait to see how developers take advantage of it this gen.
I think these questions are better answered after a bit, we're still quite hyped for the new consoles - and for good reasons. Last time the jump was significant in terms of stable framerates and IQ, now its higher framerates and IQ, buuuut SSDs whew. I'm inclined to say it's the now, but I don't know.
I believe so. The haptic and trigger technology on the PS5 is the real deal. Combined with a massive leap in sound technology/design, it creates a completely unique, new and immersive experience unlike generations before.
Then let's talk about the SSD. The SSD makes games more accessible. It is that simple. It removes the punishment of failing in games. Failure should not be a bad thing in video games, and now that can finally be realized. In prior generations, failure meant waiting for 60-90 seconds to overcome those challenges. Now, players immediately get to jump right back in the game and try again without artificial barriers.
I would argue the leap in visuals is not as huge, but I'm still waiting for 4K/HDR/not a shit LCD TV from 2012 before finalizing that conclusion. Luckily, my LG CX is arriving from Amazon at 1200 tomorrow!
Then let's talk about the SSD. The SSD makes games more accessible. It is that simple. It removes the punishment of failing in games. Failure should not be a bad thing in video games, and now that can finally be realized. In prior generations, failure meant waiting for 60-90 seconds to overcome those challenges. Now, players immediately get to jump right back in the game and try again without artificial barriers.
I would argue the leap in visuals is not as huge, but I'm still waiting for 4K/HDR/not a shit LCD TV from 2012 before finalizing that conclusion. Luckily, my LG CX is arriving from Amazon at 1200 tomorrow!
Unpopular opinion, One S/PS4 to Pro/One X was bigger when it comes to visuals. 4K/HDR is a big deal. I still appreciate all the extra frames and fast loading though.
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Yes, this jump is bigger. Last-gen machines were designed in a climate where many analysts and companies didn't even know if there would be a market for console hardware anymore. They were conservatively designed because of that. This gen both manufacturers know that these consoles will sell well for years, have a proper read on the market, and AMD has made huge strides in the quality of their CPUs and GPUs. There aren't even any PC GPUs out yet that use RDNA2 and Zen 2 is still pretty impressive for a CPU, last-gen consoles' CPUs and GPUs were dated on day 1 and didn't have the revolution in storage that SSDs will bring.
basically this to me...
I didn't see Nothing really unbelievable in terms of visuals yet...
Ryse and shadowfall for exemple were so far ahead PS3/360 era that wasn't even funny and they were launch games.
But maybe COVID had affected the launch games that could had really impressive visuals.
Even Horizon trailer that is absolute gorgeous doesnt show the really huge leap from the top PS4/one games.
The only thing I saw that show a really huge step forward from what we have this gen was the hellblade 2 trailer but we really don't know if that will really be the real visuals when the game release.
The hardware i think has the potential to deliver really fantastic things.
It's a different kind of leap, I think. Nothing is as visually impressive to me as Killzone Shadowfall was during the PS4 launch. That said, this gen obviously brings other massive advancements with it that will definitely be felt such as the reduction in friction thanks to the speed of the SSD and features like Quick Resume as well as stuff like more advanced graphics/performance options in a lot of titles.
Overall I'm definitely content with the leap the new generation seems to bring.
Overall I'm definitely content with the leap the new generation seems to bring.
This.
We'll get there since the HDD and shit CPU were insane handicaps, but not yet.
That was the biggest leap in all gaming. Not just graphics, hardware, but gaming as a whole was changed forever.
yeah, i think its just delayed a bit. 2021 and especially 2022 will really show it imo. i dont think its diminishing returns
I've yet to see something that blew me away like Driveclub and Killzone Shadowfall did graphically
there's so much cross-gen stuff at launch that it doesn't show yet, graphically, but this gen is a bigger jump for sure, it's much closer to cutting edge tech than last gen was. If I count the Dual Sense and SSD then I prefer this jump. and the cross-gen games are a much bigger jump than, say, TLOU to TLOU: Remastered... hard to believe we went from that to TLOU2. We also had the PS4Pro and XboneX to kind of dampen this jump. I fully expect once the cross-gen games are left behind, we'll really feel the CPU jump.
but yeah, last gen the BIG jump was from 512MB total RAM to 8GB, which was massive and showed *immediately*.
but yeah, last gen the BIG jump was from 512MB total RAM to 8GB, which was massive and showed *immediately*.
That's absurd. The ONLY difference between the PS4/X1 and the Pro/1X is the bigger GPU. The ONLY difference between the base and pro console's games from last gen are resolution (and sometimes an unstable framerate increase). Even if you're comparing the PS5/XSX to the Pro consoles of last gen it's still an incredibly huge upgrade. Last gen Pro consoles were still shackled just as much as the base consoles by the "weak even at release" CPU and the HDD.