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Is Next-Gen finally when we will see "Pixar" level graphics?

Soapbox Killer

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This has been a theoretical benchmark since the PS2 and while I'm not expecting games to look like Wall-E or The Good Dinosaur I do think that we are close to that line. Kingdom Hearts 3, Luigi's Mansion 3 and Ratchet & Clank all seems to push this style to its current gen limits and got relatively close. This has been a 20 year road trip and I ask the question, "are we there yet?"
 
Fat4all

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I think the R&C reboot actually seemed kind of generic by trying so hard to be like Pixar, it felt like it didn't have its own unique identity.
 

Zelus

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I think the newest Ratchet and Clank on a PS4 Pro and OLED screen looks pretty dadgum close.
 
aerts1js

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Well, I mean current pixar movies will always be above videogames but we've surpassed toy story awhile back.
 
Soulflarz

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Games already look better than classic pixar and games will never look as good as a top of the line modern cgi studio due to the fact they can spend an eternity rendering each frame so:

yes;no.
 

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I mean it's hard to really give a straight comparison since Pixar doesn't do realism, but I haven't been impressed by how a Pixar film looks in a decade.
 
Jimnymebob

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Nah. I feel like we have this every gen, and every gen we realize it's still not up to that overall standard, even if certain parts are technically better.
 
leng jai

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What do you mean by Pixar level? Their films keep progressing and looking better at a rapid rate too. Have you see how crazy Toy Story 4 looks?
 

Zento

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If you consider how FFVII Remake is already surpassing many aspects of Advent Children, I'd say there are many games that look better than parts of the first Toy Story.
 
Chivalry

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Lmao, no. Next gen is powerful, but not enough to power complex real-time raytracing.
 
Dmonzy

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A single frame on Incredibles 2 took over 800 hours to render. Current video games will never match current Pixar films.
 
Carn

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happened to see Moana (I know, not Pixar) the other day and some of the water stuff made me go: "yeaaaaaaah we'll never get there at this rate"
 
collige

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Here's a tech demo of the snow physics from Frozen



We are nowhere near this in games. I'd say next gen would probably be around Incredibles level, give or take. I just checked a clip of Cars and there's no way to reproduce the lighting there without serious levels of ray tracing.
 
Seesaw15

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No. We are no where close to the Good Dinosaur. Film is just a different beast so its gonna take a loooooong while.
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Suicide King

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It's a very bad benchmark, because there are a lot of games that look way better already. And if the question instead is "when will games render in one second stuff that could only be rendered in 500 hours a decade ago?", then I don't know.
 
nib95

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If you mean early Pixar stuff, well, imo we already passed it. But if you mean current Pixar stuff, no chance. Entire render farms work on that sort of stuff.
 
Manmademan

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Suicide King said:
It's a very bad benchmark, because there are a lot of games that look way better already.
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This. Toy story concentrating on animating toys confuses the issue quite a bit- that movie was straight up horrible at animating things like skin, eyes, hair, etc. "A Bug's Life" was supposed to be insects, but all the insects looked like toys. The technology just wasn't there.

When you look at that stuff we're probably past where Square was with FF:Spirits Within back in 2001.
 
Tyaren

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There are actually plenty games that do imo look better already. Not in all aspects obviously (polygon count for example) but overall there are games that look better than Toy Story 1 or let's say FF Spritis Within.

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Mr_Antimatter

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The thing with film is they can spend hours doing full ray tracing and particle calculations for a single frame.

games have to do that in 1/60 or 1/30 a second.

Mae can get close in terms of models and textures, but matching particle effects and lighting is going to take some time more.
 
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