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ImaPlayThis

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Oct 26, 2017
2,063
The gameplay is good for the firt playthrough or rather 20-30 hours then the problems really start to appear. The story is also godawful. So like others have said it's a horrible MGS that brings the entire series down, but viewed as a stand alone espionage action game you'll get more than your moneys worth with todays prices
 

Yuntu

Prophet of Regret
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Nov 7, 2019
10,669
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It's one of the best TPS. It's gameplay is simply outstanding and I really want KojiPro to do another game in that genre. Don't care if it's Metal Gear. Death Stranding is at parts also a TPS obviously but not focused on that aspect.
 

endzville

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Apr 21, 2020
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Way, way better than people give it credit for, which is something usually only directed towards the gameplay in vague terms.
 

Phendrift

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Oct 25, 2017
32,293
So I missed out on this game when it came out and I'm now trying to play it, but I want to know what the general consensus is. Im a huge fan of MGS1-3 but MGS IV left me really cold and didn't bother finishing it.
Worst story in the series but best gameplay. The story is interesting at times but it's just not told well
 

NediarPT88

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Oct 29, 2017
15,087
What bosses? There's like one and a half of them.

There's a bit more than that from what I remember (Quiet, the skulls snipers, the other skulls after the plane crashes, the man on fire, metal gear).

Not sure if I'm forgetting something, but overall they weren't very memorable fights. For something like a MGS it's quite poor.
 

Remnants

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Jul 18, 2019
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It's a metal gear game in name. The gameplay is incredible and the story is basically nonexistent.
 

Dust

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Oct 25, 2017
32,169
It gets much better once you unlock Batman.

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Quinton

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Oct 25, 2017
17,256
Midgar, With Love
There's a bit more than that from what I remember (Quiet, the skulls snipers, the other skulls after the plane crashes, the man on fire, metal gear).

Not sure if I'm forgetting something, but overall they weren't very memorable fights. For something like a MGS it's quite poor.

Yeah, agreed. I kind of feel like MGS went downhill on bosses overall with each passing installment, but 1-3 were so damn good with them that I didn't even notice until later. 4, then PW, then 5 is like a freefall IMO.
 

Ruisu

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Aug 1, 2019
5,535
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Haha, fair enough. Somehow I forgot half of those.
I actually like the bosses in mgsv because it rarely locks you into the fight, and even when it does you usually have a ton of options, though they're not always very clear like the Man on Fire boss where it can be a bit confusing to see all the options you have to deal with him.
 

lightning16

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May 17, 2019
1,763
I think it's, at best, a mediocre game elevated solely on its fairly strong core gameplay mechanics. Unfortunately it fails miserably in most other regards. The side quests are horrible. The open world design is quite possibly the worst in the entire medium. The story is terrible. It has the worst boss battles in the series (a strength of most of the other games). It was blatantly unfinished. The game feels good to play but it's so rarely put to good use it just felt like a huge missed opportunity overall for me. I wanted it to be over by the end. I do not think it's worth playing, unless you love the gameplay so much you just have fun spending hours messing around in the world, which a lot of people did to be fair. I wasn't one of them, unfortunately.
 

Parthenios

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
13,605
Ground Zeroes or whatever the prologue was called was amazing.

Phantom Pain was bad. It was a great "engine" but they forgot to build a good game around it.
 

Tounsi_Tag

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Oct 29, 2017
492
Amazing gameplay. Very fun and it was attempting something ambitious that ended up bigger than itself.
The story though ....
 

endzville

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Quiet, 3 different Skull Units, the man on Fire and Metal Gear.

Also that one tank mission.

They're not real bosses though! /s You forgot Eli by the way.
Also: almost all of them are the only bosses in the entire series, based around stealth, that can be avoided completely so I always find this "argument" hilarious.
 

Sadnarav

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Nov 6, 2019
858
As someone who liked Metal Gear for its crazy over the top plots and cinematics, a cool rogues gallery of villains and the story of Big Boss and Solid Snake I found this game to be the worse in the series

The gameplay is really good thou. I don't think it's the best stealth game - Dishonored 2 has that title for me, but it's one of the best

Overall I think it's one of the biggest disappointments of the generation to me and I lost all interest in anything Kojima related after that
 

JamesQuall

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Oct 27, 2017
749
It's my favorite in the series. The complaints I see made about MGS and BOTW are often similar. The open worlds are both described as barren, but the chances for emergent encounters are unparalleled, which gives each world plenty of life. The story in MGS stopped mattering to me after 4. Honestly, the less story the better when a game feels this good and sets up so many opportunities for memorable moments to happen spontaneously.

I think both are easily the best games in their respective series.
 
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vestan

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Dec 28, 2017
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MGSV is an amazing game, but my god, as a conclusion to it all, it really doesn't do that good of a job. You'd be able to appreciate it a lot more if you had no real attachment to the MGS series tbh.

Still one of the best games this gen. Death Stranding is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better though.
 

Lepi

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Mar 24, 2020
644
I hated it. Everything that was fun, unique and quirky about MGS is gone. Story is awful, painful repetition and they ruin some well established characters for the sake of a predictable twist.
 

Alizer

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Oct 27, 2017
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It has the best gameplay in all of the series. Most of the problems come from the story which is thin and with a confusing ending.

The main issue for me its that I don't consider it a bad or even mediocre game at all, far from it, its one of the best games I've played but while playing it I felt like it was taking me towards a grand ending and suddenly the credits started rolling.

Even with all its faults I really think you should play it.
 

Zoidn

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Dec 23, 2018
1,712
It's fantastic, my favourite Metal Gear game. Put 107 hours into it and had a great time throughout, really surprised how fun they made the open world.
 

SJRB

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
4,861
MGSV is objectively bad in so many ways.

- Story is an absolute mess. No, a catastrophy in so many ways I could probably write a 30-page essay about it;
- Gameplay is okay untill you realise the AI is dumb as hell and so easily cheesed it takes away any tension;
- MGS-trademark boss battles are gone and replaced with last-gen zombie garbage or fight a mech several times;
- All the broken promises from Kojima Productions involving Mother Base ["every MB is unique", "create your own base the way you want it", blablabla]
- Game is such a drastic step back in terms of depth, easter eggs, polish and other trademark MGS that it feels rushed even though it has been in production forever. The open world is an absolute joke.
- Zombies for no reason whatsoever;
- mission variety is abysmal. Just straight up copy-paste hack job. Mine Clearing 65 is legendary though, better narrative than TLOU;
- Quiet. Just... good lord, what the fuck;
- Ocelot being a completely different person than in any of the other games [don't give me that "he's hypnotized" crap, please];
- SOOOOO MANY TAPES. It's insane how many of the story is explained to you through tapes like you're listening to an audio book. You as a player are never part of anything, everything important happens off screen and you get a cassette of a character [usually Ocelot] explaining exposition to you like you're a 12-year-old while you're staring at videogame menus.
- Talking about 12-year-olds: Liquid. Holy shit. Remember that this game has two missions where you're litteraly tasked to knock out a little kid. You straight up slap the shit out of a kid;
- Plot holes. How the fuck does a game with this little narrative depth has so many plot holes?
- The jeep ride. Holy shit what were they thinking

Anyway, yeah... This is the only videogame that makes my physically angry when I think about it. The limitless potential squandered.
 
Jan 4, 2018
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In my case, I loved MGS3, MGS4 and Ground Zeroes, I absolutely hated MGSV. The most useless and boring open world I've ever seen, unfinished mess, story is bad, antagonist is a clown, some main missions feel like it's just boring and repetitive side missions...
 
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Megabreath

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Oct 25, 2018
2,663
Its a good game, but i don't know what happened in development . It took ages to come out but felt incredibly rushed.

yet Death Stranding came incredibly quickly and was a much more complete package.
 

Gestault

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Oct 26, 2017
13,356
I've put hundreds of hours into the MGS series, and while I think the mechanics in MGSV are brilliant, I think it's a "bad" game overall. Which is to say, there's almost no one I'd recommend it to without serious qualifiers.
 

Gelf

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Oct 27, 2017
5,294
You know how people make the Belda argument for Breath of the Wild, I feel like MGSV is the opposite and if it didn't have the Metal Gear name it would be looked on more favourably by a lot of people. It's an absolute joy to play but it didn't give people a lot of plot closure and the characters feel off compared with the rest of the series. I'd still highly recommend it though, one of the best games this gen. In my case it helps I kinda lost interest in overall plot of the series way back in MGS2.
 

Nigel Tufnel

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Mar 5, 2019
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I thought it was really fun. Its also the only MGS game I've played, so the silly and stupid story didn't offend me as much as others, I guess.
 

Jobbs

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Oct 25, 2017
5,639
Good gameplay, bad story

So for me it was fine because I don't care about story. It definitely went on too long though.
 

GillianSeed79

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Oct 27, 2017
2,371
MGSV has the best gameplay and stealth mechanics of the franchise. The gameplay is hands down the best of any Metal Gear game. The reason why some people don't like MGSV is because they don't like the story or because it's the least cinematic of the franchise, i.e. there's barely any long winded cutscenes. I love the game personally.
 

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I enjoyed it well enough for about 8 hours then just got really bored.

It probably doesn't help that I also vastly prefer the fixed camera of the first 3 games as well, they felt more puzzly and like I was more in control of my surroundings. I also found the aesthetics, sounds and overall tone really annoying and not very metal gear solidy, if that makes sense. I also can not give a shit about Big Boss as a character or a story, I love MGS3 in spite of that stuff.

Saying all of that, it's essentially a AAA arcade game (given the non existent story and "level" style areas) and I 100% respect it for it and can understand how it would click hard for a lot of people.
 
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djplaeskool

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Oct 26, 2017
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I have to concur with the majority here.
It's a paper-thin Metal Gear game, but one of the most technically sound open-world stealth action titles out there.
Understanding the systems and player capabilities makes It rife with shenanigans.
 

MDSVeritas

Gameplay Programmer, Sony Santa Monica
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Oct 25, 2017
1,026
I don't believe there is a more absolutely well-crafted stealth game. The tools at your disposal, the dynamism of how systems interact and AI respond to different circumstances, and the rock solid core of it's third-perdon-shooting all combine to make what I can really only call a masterpiece of action-stealth gameplay. If I want to enjoy the hell out of stealth action game I will go to MGSV every time.

The story is immensely polarizing and while I think it hits some truly sharp highs the games story was cut short of what was planned and it's fairly evident. The direction of the story in general is also a huge departure for the series, in a deeply divisive way.