Jonas did this to Rusty as well as is revealed in one of the later seasons.
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Is Jonas Venture one of if not the worst Father in fiction
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Jonas did this to Rusty as well as is revealed in one of the later seasons.
The Morpho Trilogy were three of the best episodes in the series. There was always a chance before that that Jonas didn't mean to be the way he was to Rusy. That he was just way too absorbed in his work. By the end of the Morpho Trilogy, you finally see him for what he is. Jonas was more evil than most of the super villains in the series.
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To be fair, most of those were their own faults. And we know the clones are actually them and not just duplicates because the literal Necromancer couldn't find their souls in the afterlife because Rusty's backups were their souls
I fully believe this has already happened but wont be announced until it's about to launch.
-Left Entmann to die with said fan-club too.
and even after movie night, he was still such a bastard:
-Was probably responsible for the crash of Grangantua-1
-Tried to get his son to completely mind wipe the robot body of his best friend...this while guilt-tripping said best friend, AGAIN.
I was not ready for these spoilers...oh my.
They die because Rusty takes them on insane adventures they have no business being on (except for the monoxide leak in their rooms but that's also Rusty's fault IMO).
Also not so sure about how good Rusty's soul catcher is, one of Dean's aborted clones survives for a life of misery.
One of the most unsettling shows ever. Like, it wasn't even funny. It was just, a show about broken adults slowly sucking the positivity out of a naive boy. That fucking forest episode man.
Clay Puppington from Moral Orel. There's too many things to list.
Yeah, but Rusty's perspective on this shit is all kinds of fucked up because of the world he grew up in. It's not an uncommon parental practice in universe (and his childhood is likely one of the main reasons why that's the case, in fact). Jonas didn't have that excuse, was far more negligent than Rusty, and was particularly malicious even outside of the context of their "adventures". Shit, he didn't even have a Brock who was actually good at taking care of Rusty in a nurturing manner. Team Venture were all assholes.
Also, that time Hank jumped off the roof wasn't on Rusty either.
Dean's aborted clone doesn't have Dean's back up in it. None of the clones do until the boys die. For all intents and purposes he was a 3rd, separate Venture brother that really wanted to be Dean.
Clay Puppington from Moral Orel. There's too many things to list.
Wasn't what I came in here to post but he's definitely it.
Hank jumping on the roof and the running with scissors ones I'm prepared to say isn't Rusty's fault but they've died like a dozen times the balance sheet isn't good.
Oh man this does not make it better to me lol
Dermott really was the luckiest Venture Brother in that Rusty abandoned him.
I mean he would have though... were it an option. Like he would have straight up sacrificed his son for himself to succeed.
Yeah, I thought about it a minute later and was like, "Wait, he absolutely would have done that shit if it meant seeing Yui", arguably the Human Instrumentality Project is a huge version of this.
It be like that? Damn...never saw Venture Bros. lol
I just rewatched their death montage. I would say that most of them weren't Rusty's fault directly. Most of their deaths came down to their own carelessness.
It should be noted that in Full Metal Alchemist, the practice of alchemy relies on the principle of "equivalent exchange". The force that allows alchemy to be possible demands that in order to get something, the user must give up something. This doesn't present a major issue when performing alchemy on non-living things. For example, the main character frequently changes the shape of rock in order to defend or attack. Another character concentrates flammable gases in the air so he can create fiery explosions. Performing alchemy on living things tends to get really weird though. Shou Tucker's initial experiments with chimera on his wife earned him great respect with the government. More than money, he desperately wanted that validation for his work. It can be argued that in order for it to work, he had to give up something of importance to him. His subsequent attempts were unsuccessful until he chose to give up his daughter.
My man's parenting was so bad that he turned the whole world into orange cum.Cares about his dead wife more than his living son
i didnt know there was anything even resembling an update but it turns out a few months ago the head of hbo max programming (i think) said they were working on it
great!
Yup, him saying anything to me read as "we are doing it, but won't say it till it's almost ready to stream"
A lot of the main people behind it have gone quiet on the #savetheventruebros too after the head of HBO used it and said the fans using it were great people.
HBO just likes these close to release announcements so it makes a bit of sense
so now i only have to wait 2 years
making it about the same break between any other season
Well the next season was well into production before the cord got cut, so I'm thinking next year
This is, by far, was one of the wildest moments from the show I remember because it's not only one of the more normal ways in which Rusty screwed up someone else's life, but the fact that both Hank and Rusty slept with the same woman.
Even then Jonas is probably the worst father in all of human history. Yeah, you got fucked up gods killing their kids or w/e, but at the very least, they got to die instead of being tortured for years on end and then have everyone compare you to him and then expect you to live up to your father's legacy.
Yeah, Jonas created a legacy so strong that his son is forever trapped in it long after his death. Rusty always being reminded that he will never live up to the monster who made his childhood hell.
It wasn't that far along. They were still writing it when they were canceled. It was probably still two years out.
I'm gunna say Zeus, because I remember him being uniquely terrible.
What I'm getting from these anime answers is that the dads tend to be over the top awful, but in ways that aren't very nuanced or clever. It's like if someone wrote a story of, I don't know, a father figure kept torturing their son to death for eternity and bringing them back to life once they died to relive it.
It's not hard to just be over the top terrible and say "for eternity" as a stinger, so I assume there's like a billion such characters in short stories or whatever. At some point, it feels like it's less about them uniquely being a dad, and it moreso the case that they just happened to be related to them prior to eternity torture or whatever.
It's way harder to inflict the sort of mental damage Jonas did, since that's contingent on writing quality and a far longer arc.
What I'm getting from these anime answers is that the dads tend to be over the top awful, but in ways that aren't very nuanced or clever. It's like if someone wrote a story of, I don't know, a father figure kept torturing their son to death for eternity and bringing them back to life once they died to relive it.
It's not hard to just be over the top terrible and say "for eternity" as a stinger, so I assume there's like a billion such characters in short stories or whatever. At some point, it feels like it's less about them uniquely being a dad, and it moreso the case that they just happened to be related to them prior to eternity torture or whatever.
It's way harder to inflict the sort of mental damage Jonas did, since that's contingent on writing quality and a far longer arc.
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The primary difference between Rusty and Jonas as fathers is this:
Jonas thinks he's perfect while being maliciously cruel to everyone, especially his son.
Rusty knows he's a failure, knows he's always teetering this close to basically being a supervillain, and tries to be better than that. Fails miserably most of the time, but honestly tries. You can even see it in the way he treats the boys throughout the series, especially after their clones were all destroyed. The way he treats them steadily improves and becomes more and more actually fatherly as the series goes on.
Jonas thinks he's perfect while being maliciously cruel to everyone, especially his son.
Rusty knows he's a failure, knows he's always teetering this close to basically being a supervillain, and tries to be better than that. Fails miserably most of the time, but honestly tries. You can even see it in the way he treats the boys throughout the series, especially after their clones were all destroyed. The way he treats them steadily improves and becomes more and more actually fatherly as the series goes on.
I can't think of a father or husband worse than this guy. He's a fuckin' king of terrible fathers.
Rusty is a drug addict too he just didn't go to rehab lol. Wasn't that the whole thing about his "Diet pills"?
Very late spoiler
Rusty is also a clone so he probably died a whole lot as well
Some of you need to watch The Venture Bros. Shou doesn't even come close to Jonas.
Most of the stuff that kills them is Rusty's fault because he leaves stuff around the Venture Compound that you shouldn't have anywhere near children.
I don't recall him doing anything to his children aside from being a deadbeat. The closest thing was emulating Kronos and eating Athena's mom.The OG shit Father
They're 16! (Actually 19 because their clone bodies are 3 years younger than them, but they don't know that)
That's why Clay is the G.O.A.T worst dad. He's by far the most realistic of the picks and is someone you might meet somewhere in the USA.
16 is still a child, and that's the start of the series so they're potentially even younger in their previous deaths.
I mean a lot of places won't let you drive a forklight until you're 18 lol.
The OG shit Father
How can he be the OG when his father was freaking Chronos
I don't know anyone above the age of 6 who doesn't know not to shoot a bow and arrow at someone/let someone shoot one at them. Or run that close to a jet engine. Or anyone above the age of 10 who doesn't know not to have fire next to flammable materials.
And you really can't blame the satellite on Rusty. That was an act of god.
I'll give you the rest, though.
That part was always confusing to me. The way I understood it the learning bed was their "soul" and would re-educate them to a point, but they're old memories being cycled in. So they were essentially reset with each revive and would mentally be the age of their bodies. So I thought they couldn't remember what happened in season one, which is why there's moments like Hank asking if Shelia is his mom even though they've previously met a lot of times.