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Is Jack Black (Jablinski Games) doing a charity stream with...Pewdiepie?
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I admit I'm to old to get why people like watching streamers like PDP, Dr Disrespect, and Ninja, etc etc.
What is the appeal? I guess I should check out a stream and see what the big deal is? Usually when I watch a Let's Play it to see the game, not to hear some jackasses commentary.
What is the appeal? I guess I should check out a stream and see what the big deal is? Usually when I watch a Let's Play it to see the game, not to hear some jackasses commentary.
It can be fun to watch someone you enjoy do something you enjoy.
To put it broadly, it's the same reason that people will see a movie because it has a certain actor in it that they like.
See, now you're making shit up about me defending nazis. I like Jack Black and I wish they raise money for charity. Don't give a fuck about PDP. You're doing exactly what I was referring to.
Do people seriously think that Pewdiepie radicalized the New Zealand shooter?
His entire manifesto was designed to mess with the mainstream press. He cited "Candace Owens" as the source of his radicalization, even though she was "too extreme" for his tastes. It's pretty obvious that his Pewdiepie shoutout was simply done to stir shit up.
If this is what it takes to be considered a Nazi (not just a racist/bigot, but a National Socialist) then the term has absolutely lost all meaning. Look up the stuff that actual Nazis were doing in the Weimar Republic then compare it to Pewdiepie the offensive YouTuber. I guess I'm technically "defending" Pewdiepie here, but I just think the whole "Nazi Cult Leader Who Kills People" thing is ridiculously overblown.
Pewdiepie is what happens when your typical racist online gamer gets a 100,000,000 person 24/7 audience.
His entire manifesto was designed to mess with the mainstream press. He cited "Candace Owens" as the source of his radicalization, even though she was "too extreme" for his tastes. It's pretty obvious that his Pewdiepie shoutout was simply done to stir shit up.
If this is what it takes to be considered a Nazi (not just a racist/bigot, but a National Socialist) then the term has absolutely lost all meaning. Look up the stuff that actual Nazis were doing in the Weimar Republic then compare it to Pewdiepie the offensive YouTuber. I guess I'm technically "defending" Pewdiepie here, but I just think the whole "Nazi Cult Leader Who Kills People" thing is ridiculously overblown.
Pewdiepie is what happens when your typical racist online gamer gets a 100,000,000 person 24/7 audience.
I have and I think the question still applies in a broad sense. Nice gotcha!
I paraphrased your message. Maybe don't defend charities fronted by nazis?
You conveniently left out the part where I said that Pewdiepie should just go away entirely. Radical, buddy! The stream is, factually, tainted by the fact that Pewdiepie is involved in it. Take your L.
So your answer is that bad people can't do good things in a public fashion; And I agree!
Can I paraphrase you?
"Terrible people can never do good things, and the seemingly good people that are willing to associate with them for seemingly good purposes are also terrible."
He literally followed alt-righters on Twitter...
As a German I am well aware what my ancestors did. Then dont call it "Nazi", call it alt-righter, racist shithead or whatever.
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Perfectly normal thing to write. Cool cool cool. Just casually defending white supremacists because I've problem with semantics.
I'm not gonna state any personal opinion about both Jack Black and Pewdiepie, only the fact that the charity he's done raised over 2 millions, and that's only for a couple of them.
Whatever your stance is on Pewdiepie's action, I think we should be okay that he's using his power and clout for a good cause.
It's a charity, only good stuff can come out of it.
Jack Black understand this. Pewdiepie understand this. We should too.
Whatever your stance is on Pewdiepie's action, I think we should be okay that he's using his power and clout for a good cause.
It's a charity, only good stuff can come out of it.
Jack Black understand this. Pewdiepie understand this. We should too.
Yes, that's exactly right. If you want to help people just choose some other charity, maybe not fronted by confirmed white supremacists. It's that easy.
I think implying that a word can't evolve in it's definition is a little disingenious. Nazi no longer stands for a specific group of people from a specific period of history; It's more of a stand-in for "nazi-like"/incredibly transparent bigot, which is totally fair. Expectations of how public figures behave should change with the times, too.
Good to know where everyone stands. Seems a little to black and white for my taste, but you do you.
Yeah, it's way over the top to condemn nazis and people who wilfully work with them. Sure.
How did I misinterpret his words? And how is condemning neonazis 'bad faith'?
You're arguing in bad faith. If you were confident in your argument, you wouldn't feel the need to resort to twisting and misrepresenting his words.
Yeah, not a good look.
Still, I doubt that he has any idea of what became of Notch after Minecraft.
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I can condemn nazis while still accepting their money for good causes. Those aren't exclusive actions.
PDP is objectively one of the worst people on YT, but if he wanted to give millions of dollars to some charity I worked with I wouldn't turn the money away.
27 letters to the newspaper are the grounds of a manifesto even if not spiral bound.
My only point with this is that a militant view can be dangerous no matter intent. Believing there are no nutjob leftists actually is deeply disturbing because it tells of a dangerously black and white view.
The cancel thing is in my opinion a very bleak option because it leaves no room for reform or education and growth.
We just celebrated the space program, but the reality is that without a former nazi it would have never happened as it did.
Again I am no fan of pdp and hate the whole YouTube celebrity thing. I think at the end people will just have to make their own choice but I also think it is good and fair to get the information out there so people can be informed.
"Only"
Be careful about that hyperbole. Giving him any kind of good press negates the fact he's still a bigoted racist. Which also leads to justifying it. "So what if he keeps dropping the N-word? He gave some money away."
I doubt he knows the controversy surrounding notch and pewdiepie, gonna give the guy a break.
Hahaha. These forums are something else. There's hypernormalization and there's this. Oh man.
Just imagine being a person who respects people's money more than their hideous actions.
Nope pewdiepie is hot trash and not to mention the followers of him are directly related to a mass shooting.
That's ultimately the issue with a public figure donating to a good cause. It gives them an alibi of sorts: "How can I be against trans people if I gave my money to a charity benefiting trans individuals?" When in the next breath they drop a slur used against trans people. Condemnation is ultimately just words whereas providing a means to make money is what actually matters.
Hence why it's a catch-22. Charity needs money to function, person with the money to donate to said charity is the reason said charity needs to exist.
It's called ban baiting. Perhaps you missed the thread. Do not engage
Yeah, just did an edit. I think I wouldn't have reacted if it wasn't for the fact that it's pewdiepie on the other end, which just makes it the perfect storm, haha.
It's either that or let them keep their money and use it for terrible causes. Your choice.
You accused everyone including yourself of overanalyzing everything, I accused you of not caring and me of overanalyzing. One of us might be right.
I don`t think people on the internet misusing a word to give their arguments more weight and/or not understanding what a word means means that it has evolved and that we should accept that. I really think calling everyone a nazi helps normalize nazis and it makes it easier for actual neonazis to be open about their believes and convert people. Like calling your everyday right wing asshole politician a nazi makes people like Richard Spencer seem more normal.
Just imagine being a person who puts people's money above their actions, however hideous actions these may be.
'I mean, sure, this is blood money, but for a really good cause! I'll accept it!'
Doesn't his kid basically run the channel, or am I incorrect on that? Are we suspecting Jack knows what's going on and knows PDP's messed up history? If so, why?
Either way, it's unfortunate.
Either way, it's unfortunate.
Say it with me again. The average joe (let alone a busy celebrity) does not have the time to sit on internet communities and unearth this stuff.
Bingo.
And while some might defend PDP, and others are against him, call it by how it is, if you think he's a bigot, or an enabler, or an alt-right troll. Call him like that. Don't use Nazi because it would attract real neo-nazis to the fray.
You have an interesting interpretation of the word manifesto.
There are fewer 'nutjob' leftists based on statistical analysis of mass shootings in the United States.
PDP has excelled at the latter.
Did we celebrate the space program because of von Braun/others? Or was a patriotic, almost nationalistic fueled event in the face of an opposing country doing similar things the reasoning behind the space program in the 60s? Just look at how few people pay attention to it today, most notably they pay attention to SpaceX, a company funded in large part by taxes from US citizens.
I largely think the cancel culture is problematic because people are not consistent with it. But it goes back to human nature. I think people should inform Jack Black and go from there. But you can't blame people for saying PDP is shit and not exactly applauding even when he does a good thing. Hell I can't applaud when Aaron Judge hits a homerun. It doesn't make me a bad person, it just makes me biased.
Can you give me examples of people calling everyone Nazis? Because I don't see this happening. I see people sympathizing, signal boosting Nazis like PDP has done being called such. Your argument just seems rather disingenuous.
If you want to talk about people misusing a word, let's talk about why the word literally means itself and the opposite of itself because of emphasis. I find this to be far more interesting and less of tone policing where people doing horrible things have to be specifically labeled a certain way because it's more important to do that than to analyze their acts.
How is ignorance on the subject of his cohost a redeeming quality here? If he didn't check out PDP's previous 'achievements' then that makes it all ok?
I think it depends on the context. In this case it's going to a mental health charity. There's a lot of people out there who need help with mental health and aren't in a position of privilege to turn it down help because it's "blood money". I despise pdp, but if this is what it takes to get better mental health help for those in need, i'm for it.