I do believe you have some fault here, you positioned yourself as superior and you framed yourself as more in-command via verbosity while at the same time proving your language use is lacking in other areas (and you haven't really acknowledged that).Sorry guys, I dunno what to say. I'm not trying to make myself feel superior to you by saying big words, and I'm sorry for finding it terribly confusing that people automatically think that's my intent. I thought I had enough cynicism to go around on my own.
Here's the thing: the part people jumped on and called out like OP had been posturing like a genius was the word "complex". While the word "inebriated" itself is not complex, using more synonyms IS adding complexity. So I think their original point wasn't actually as self-aggrandizing as some made it out to be.
It's ironic, imo, that many posters came in to call OP out for being a dick... by being fucking awful dicks about it.
And while OP's tone is partially to blame of their own situation, imo, it wasn't called for and OP's swing into more hostile remarks in-kind is not fucking surprising.
......Soooo of course I "Ok Boomer"d that shit and decided I needed a second opinion on Era.
You don't seem to be paying attention to those of us in here are explaining the problem so I don't know what you're going to get from this when you are more interested in reacting to those who are being more hostile.Sorry guys, I dunno what to say. I'm not trying to make myself feel superior to you by saying big words, and I'm sorry for finding it terribly confusing that people automatically think that's my intent. I thought I had enough cynicism to go around on my own.
It's POTENTIALLY those things, but not by default like so many have swung to automatically.I'm only going off my own thoughts on this from now; adding complexity when it serves no real purpose, IS potentially patronising and condescending. So yes, he is using more complex vocabulary and the like, but I question; why is he doing that? For what reason?
Are you familiar with the concept of Purple Prose?Are you reading this thread? People be ribbing me for my use of "proficient".
Perhaps you know how to draw a cypress tree: so what, if you've been given Money to paint a sailor plunging from a shipwreck.
You don't seem to be paying attention to those of us in here are explaining the problem so I don't know what you're going to get from this when you are more interested in reacting to those who are being more hostile.
For the record I'm yet to see a big word from you so I'm not sure where your head is at here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's POTENTIALLY those things, but not by default like so many have swung to automatically.
You get the irony there, right?
Some people just naturally gravitate to being more verbose, there are lots of reasons that don't = superiority complex.
You're on a forum full of nerds in a topic about language, so many of the people here will be well read enough to not consider those words "big".
I didn't mean it condescendingly, I'm just trying to figure out this whole situation, because I don't know what's actually the issue here. I've never heard you speak, and I don't know your actual tone of voice, how you're responding when spoken to, the syntax you use, your vocabulary in context, etc etc. I don't think there's enough here for anyone to say, but it seems to me that you're off-base if you think the sole issue is the vocabulary you use. Though I'm sure that's a part of it. Like, "exasperated" is probably not something I'd often use in conversation, I'd probably say "fed up" or something, because it carries the same connotation and is less formal (and actually easier to say due to being fewer syllables). "I'm just exasperated with this situation" just doesn't roll off the tongue.Of course it is. Does anything I have posted in this thread come across to you as someone who is speaking a second language? Seriously? I heard the word "condescending" thrown around earlier....
He has descended into more hostility because of unnecessary hostility. Yes, his OP was a little abrasive and lacking in self-awareness, but you don't need to be mean to call that out. If you are, of course the conversation will devolve.Sure, but I'm going off his other posts, not just the OP. He has repeatedly come across that way in every one of his posts.
I mean... yeah? Welcome to Era. You could post this exact same quote in hundreds of other threads on a daily basis and be just as correct about it.It's ironic, imo, that many posters came in to call OP out for being a dick... by being fucking awful dicks about it.
You a time traveller?I get the wholew context, audience, read the room angles guys. It's been made crystal clear, and I like to think I generally do that already. All I wanted to do is get a lay of the land as to how "the masses" respond to complex use of language, and clearly it is...not good. The atmosphere plummeted real quick.
Again.. that's not what happened.I get the wholew context, audience, read the room angles guys. It's been made crystal clear, and I like to think I generally do that already. All I wanted to do is get a lay of the land as to how "the masses" respond to complex use of language, and clearly it is...not good. The atmosphere plummeted real quick.
The use of superfluous is ironic for sure.
He has descended into more hostility because of unnecessary hostility. Yes, his OP was a little abrasive and lacking in self-awareness, but you don't need to be mean to call that out. If you are, of course the conversation will devolve.
I didn't say you were... I was reasoning why OP was being hostile, which is what you were calling out at that point.I don't think I was being mean in anything I said. I was calling him out like others.
I didn't say you were... I was reasoning why OP was being hostile, which is what you were calling out at that point.
OP; I am sorry if this offends but are you on the spectrum? Genuine question, not looking to judge or insult. Feel free to not answer if it makes you uncomfortable.
"The masses" certainly sounds condescending and when are you speaking them? Are we "the masses", is era?I get the whole context, audience, read the room angles guys. It's been made crystal clear, and I like to think I generally do that already. All I wanted to do is get a lay of the land as to how "the masses" respond to complex use of language, and clearly it is...not good. The atmosphere plummeted real quick.
You shouldn't care but there's potential you could be there's some "potential flags" for this in how you come across.
"The masses" certainly sounds condescending and when are you speaking them? Are we "the masses", is era?
From the op and subsequent posts you seemed to imply you were having issues in your personal experience that led you to feel there was an issue with your choice of words, or the recipients. Most of us have just been trying to explain this, with some turning to hostility admittedly
Well yeah, families tend to say and do things that don't actually represent the rest of the world unfortunately. Like, your mum is going to generally talk up any and all levels of accomplishment regardless of the actual impact of said accomplishments.Not at all, I said my family commented on my way of speaking saying it was "impressive" and I came to Era to get clarification. Regrettably. Also "the masses" was in quotations, can you please stop misrepresenting my posts?
No mate, you are absolutely framing yourself as superior. Your OP did this will also proving you are not quite as in-command of language as you thought.Not at all, I said my family commented on my way of speaking saying it was "impressive" and I came to Era to get clarification. Regrettably. Also "the masses" was in quotations, can you please stop misrepresenting my posts?
Bro meticulous is a big impressive word now? Lmao what the fuck is even happening
No mate, you are absolutely framing yourself as superior. Your OP did this will also proving you are not quite as in-command of language as you thought.
The hostility was uncalled for, BUT you were rightly called out.
You might have put masses in quotation marks, but you are still posturing.
Do you really not see this?
Bro meticulous is a big impressive word now? Lmao what the fuck is even happening
I don't think I know one single person who doesn't understand what meticulous means, and I don't hangout with a bunch of geniuses or anything.What planet do you people live on, where people around you say and hear the word "meticulous" like it is please and thank you? That shit stands out to normal people.....FOR SOME REASON. Hence why I created the fucking thread.
What planet do you people live on, where people around you say and hear the word "meticulous" like it is please and thank you? That shit stands out to normal people.....FOR SOME REASON. Hence why I created the fucking thread.
Him sorry. Feels bad.I don't know and I don't care. All you've been doing this whole thread is judging and insulting, why the sudden change?
They try make you feel love. Him no love. Him try make talky man go. Him fail. Talky man still talk. I like. Talky man stay with GungHo. GungHo protect talky man.Not at all, I said my family commented on my way of speaking saying it was "impressive" and I came to Era to get clarification. Regrettably. Also "the masses" was in quotations, can you please stop misrepresenting my posts?
Your hostility in the face of hostility was understood, but your continued hostility in the face of explanations is really uncool.What planet do you people live on, where people around you say and hear the word "meticulous" like it is please and thank you? That shit stands out to normal people.....FOR SOME REASON. Hence why I created the fucking thread.
I don't know and I don't care. All you've been doing this whole thread is judging and insulting, why the sudden change?
Do what you want to do but remember that brevity is the soul of wit. You can get away with verbosity if you have a certain style to go along with it but mostly it just comes off as pompous and affected.
If you wanna know, it's because I am autistic and can often come across in ways I do not intend. So while it may look like I'm jumping around in how I act I am really trying to tone what I say correctly.
LMAO this got me
Who are these "normal people" who haven't understood you when you have used meticulous?What planet do you people live on, where people around you say and hear the word "meticulous" like it is please and thank you? That shit stands out to normal people.....FOR SOME REASON. Hence why I created the fucking thread.
Him sorry. Feels bad.
They try make you feel love. Him no love. Him try make talky man go. Him fail. Talky man still talk. I like. Talky man stay with GungHo. GungHo protect talky man.
I get the whole context, audience, read the room angles guys. It's been made crystal clear, and I like to think I generally do that already. All I wanted to do is get a lay of the land as to how "the masses" respond to complex use of language, and clearly it is...not good. The atmosphere plummeted real quick.
Yeah man, I don't think you're really particularly great with language or anything, I think your family just must be stupider or less well read than the average person.Then count me as autistic then because clearly a lot of you have taken a really negative assumption about the OP and just ran with it.
You could have just said "words like that aren't that complex. Your family are just bucking you up." and that would have been the end of it. Instead, it devolved into a huge mess of hurt egos and communication issues.