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Is it too much to ask for a proper FF13 Remastered Trilogy?
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"Small issue" 😂😂😂
He couldn't have. Otherwise he would've. Versus 13 was crippled for most of it's development. They had issues, but most unquestionably stemmed from 13.
The defense force for arguably the worst entry in the series (yes, even worse than 15), is laughable at best. I'm glad it's dead and I'm happy that era seems to be over and done with.
Like with all FF's, it had it's time. I'll happily move on to FF16. Let's all hope it's what this franchise has needed since FF10.
I can't believe there are still people who think there was more than just concepts of Versus 13. If there was more to it than what there was, it wouldn't have been altered so drastically the way it was to get 15 out the door.
Lightning Returns came out Nov 2013.
FF15 came out in Nov 2016.
Three whole years that could have been used now that the "wasted resources" on 13 was consolidated into the "Versus 13" team. There obviously wasn't much there because I believe it was a trailer in 2014 that started to show that 15 would become a totally different product.
Lightning Returns came out Nov 2013.
FF15 came out in Nov 2016.
Three whole years that could have been used now that the "wasted resources" on 13 was consolidated into the "Versus 13" team. There obviously wasn't much there because I believe it was a trailer in 2014 that started to show that 15 would become a totally different product.
Woah... You don't think the FFXIII trilogy even belongs in the past? So you want to just wipe them from the timeline, eh? I mean, it is tough, but it is also fair. ;)
Perhaps if it was nomura who demanded the creation of a new engine, then that might be a stronger argument but I don't actually know if that was his initiative or not tbh. It was just that crystal tools was not versatile and that is why it's since been abandoned most likely.
There's nothing wrong with being a perfectionist. Even with that idiosyncrasy he still managed to crank out ffviir in five years which is a pretty average time, even with a shift of teams. And most importantly, it was good. When he gets the appropriate resources, project completion doesn't seem to be much of an issue. I don''t think it's really debatable that the resource intensive process of funding 13 project really crippled production of other games, both in available resources and limiting nature of game design allowed. If the result of that process is a limiting scope of what you're allowed to make from a design stand point, that to me does not put nomura solely at at fault. it's probably a little of both, and more heavily leaning toward upper management, prioritizing a vision of 13 at whatever the cost.
I'd love for a proper remaster, if only to be able to replay FFXIII-2 and LR.
He also got Birth by Sleep, Re:coded, 358/2 Days, Dream Drop Distance, and three HD collections out the door. Numbered titles are irrelevant to prove that he's a bad director when he has provided almost yearly releases since 2005.
Under 6, yes. But in late 2014 they swapped their entire engine and that wasn't resolved until December 2014. 4 years late and the game had gone gold, which is pretty much the standard for an AAA release these days, and then he got FFVIIR out the door a year later.
You said Final Fantasy XIII doesn't even belong in the past. That is a sentiment a lot of us can get behind. We need to erase it from the timeline. I appreciate you leading the charge, my dude.
I think MOST people here are at least half joking. The rerelease will absolutely happen at some point. You can bet on that.
Honestly, there are some parts of Final Fantasy XIII that are genuinely pretty cool. Especially the battle engine. Unfortunately, it takes an excruciating amount of time for that battle engine to actually fully open up.
I mean, I would too, but.... no one is giving the caveat of "XIII remaster will come at the cost of no remasters of 4-6". If Square put some effort into 4-6 and advertised they were doing so, I would be totally behind that too!
I guess I just assume that there's only so much to go around for these type of projects. I'm down either way, excitement about remasters will help beget more revamp projects. Not my first choice though.
There is no half joking.
Some people would prefer it never be a thing so that other people that enjoy something can suffer.
"muh precious resources"
This line confsues me. What has the franchise been missing since FF10 that it "needs" to get back? Because since then we've had:
FF11: an MMO that is surprisingly still running with a dedicated user base, despite being only just a little bit younger than 10.
FF12: A game that, despite my personal indifference towards, has a dedicated set of fans who believe THIS was the pinnacle game of the series and after THIS where the franchise started to decline.
FF13: A dedicated group of fans, as proven by this thread. Most likely introduced a new set of fans to the series, being the first FF released for a new generation.
FF14: A massively successful MMO that is argued to have THE best story of the franchise's history.
FF15: A huge open world RPG that (again, despite my own personal dislike for) introduced a new set of fans to the series, again most likely due to it being the first mainline FF to be released on a new generation of consoles.
I don't really get the comments saying there is no demand when the games got not one but 2 sequels, more than any other FF. I get they needed to dampen the development cost of the first one, but if the series had been as unpopular as some people here like to suggest, I doubt they would have made 3 games with the same protagonists and world.
In any case, I've been wanting to replay the trilogy. I've only ever played them on PS3, now I'm planning to play them on PC.
In any case, I've been wanting to replay the trilogy. I've only ever played them on PS3, now I'm planning to play them on PC.
no you don't get it, this thing that exists in my mind is 1000 times better than that real thing and you literally cannot prove me wrong
Please make sure you all buy the eventual remasters so that I can get my FFXIII-4: Lightning Settles Down in the Country Side and Also There Are Cars Now
I was referring to the visuals. I feel like it's aged really well visually. A sharper U.I. would be nice and I'm sure a remaster could do a locked 60fps no sweat
I didn't love FF13, but I did like it and would gladly play it again. Never got a chance to play the two later games, so it would be great to have all three playable on modern hardware. Also, Lightning is cool, I don't care what people say.
And yeah, I know I could technically play it on my PC. The thing is that PC is really strongly associated with work in my mind and I don't really enjoy playing games on it anymore. : \
And yeah, I know I could technically play it on my PC. The thing is that PC is really strongly associated with work in my mind and I don't really enjoy playing games on it anymore. : \
My least favourite main line FF games. I'd rather if they didn't use resources at SE to remaster this.
You're right, I forgot about 12 (arguably the last great SP-entry), but yes 12, 14 and to some extent 15 are good entries and I say this not having been able to play 14, sadly. The word of mouth and roaring success is enough to believe it though.
FF15 was ambitious as hell, but as we all know, had development issues... Most FF fans know the history behind it. I bet a lot of the fans buying it, were buying it in hopes to get some of that initial promise of Versus 13, but it failed to deliver on it (was incredibly succesful though).
It was nowhere near the critical darling that prior FF's had been (not unlike 13). Ironically chapter XIII almost made me want to toss the game out of my window. One of the worst sections in a game that I have ever played. The story was rubbish too.
FFX was a perfect storm though. It was a next-gen entry, introduced voice-acting, moved the series forward, had an engaging story oh and it was incredibly successful and beloved by critics and fans. FFXII came out at the tail-end of the PS2 generation, so I wasn't as impressed by it.
I guess it's that... I want to be impressed again. I want a next-gen open-world with lessons learned from FFXV (and contributions from the FFXIV development) with an engaging, interesting story and gameplay/game design that moves the series forward. A return to the Golden Era (which Square themselves have acknowledged exists).
I keep trying to say this, but it never has any effect...
Some people seem to subconsciously believe that Versus XIII was secretly some awesome, near-finished game with a great story and completed assets, etc., and that Square just decided to mess it up for shits and giggles. I doubt there was actually much more to Versus XIII beyond what was made for its few trailers.
Well you're in luck, cause they haven't done that for pretty much any of their remasters/ports. Almost all of them have been outsourced, either to Virtuos (for remasters), various UK studios (for many of the ports), or a bunch of other small external studios elsewhere.
I knew i was going to regret clicking on this thread. As if a remaster collection is going to hoard a ton of resources.
So many era posters are in such a bubble that they probably think XII outsold XIII.
So many era posters are in such a bubble that they probably think XII outsold XIII.
I looked for it after a recent thread on XIII-2 and was surprised it didn't exist. I'd buy it for XIII-2 alone. Hell, even XIII would be great if they just went back and changed the pace at which the battle system opens up.
I'd rather they put their resources into remastering better games, like Vagrant Story or Final Fantasy Tactics.
Although XIII-2 was good at least.
Although XIII-2 was good at least.
I'd pay full price for each game in the trilogy on Switch. Please, Square. Please. Give me Final Fantasy XIII.
Yes. We got pc ports. They aren't going to waste manpower on remastering these the demand probably isn't there and its a period SE probably wants to forget about
It would be pretty sweet if they removed having to unlock new levels of the Crystarium through story progression, but then they'd have to basically rebalance all of the encounters.
One of the things I really appreciate about FFXIII is that the game can be pretty freaking challenging at times. I got a Game Over playing FFXIII way more times than I did during my Persona 5 playthrough, but FFXIII makes it more manageable by giving you the option to "Retry", which basically rewinds time to right before the encounter started. That way you don't really lose any major progress and you can just try different strategies.
How can you go out of your way to NOT remaster something?
"Hey Bill, I'm going to need you to go out of your way and head down to the Final Fantasy Remaster plant.They just got done with FF12, and FF13 is on the conveyor belt. I know it's going to cost our company a lot of time and resources to stop this remaster from happening, but it's really important you do so."
I'd be there day 1. Depending on what they did to 1, I'd probably skip it just cause I've replayed 13 recently, but I'd love a non-borked port of 2 for sure.
They can't even be bothered to rerelease one of their best games ever, Final Fantasy Tactics. Why would they bother with Final Fantasy XIII?
I kinda get it. I really REALLY liked what was teased in all those trailers. But I've long since come to terms that's all there really was. Some bones were there, because we see so much similarities to 15, but there wasn't much.....otherwise we would have gotten a completely different game than what 15 turned out to be.
Did War of the Lions drop the ball or butcher Tactics in some way that I missed out on?
They still look fantastic. If you really want to play those games, it's not like there's a shortage on available PS3s / Xbox 360s / Xbox Ones.
No, they made the game better. But that game is stuck on the psp. The only way to play it on a modern system, is through your phone. I just can't play games for an extended period of time on a phone. I'd legit pay full price for a rerelease version on modern systems. I doubt I'll get a sequel, so I'll take a rerelease of the original.
I knew that WotL released on mobile, so I assumed it was put on Steam as well. My bad on that lol That sucks
Virtuos, who worked on Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster and Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age, might be working on a remaster, right?
The branches are still there 15 months later 🤷♂️
FINAL FANTASY XIII · FINAL FANTASY® XIII · AppID: 292120 · SteamDB
FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 · AppID: 292140 · SteamDB
LIGHTNING RETURNS™: FINAL FANTASY® XIII · AppID: 345350 · SteamDB
The branches are still there 15 months later 🤷♂️
FINAL FANTASY XIII · FINAL FANTASY® XIII · AppID: 292120 · SteamDB
FINAL FANTASY XIII-2 · AppID: 292140 · SteamDB
LIGHTNING RETURNS™: FINAL FANTASY® XIII · AppID: 345350 · SteamDB
I love War of the Lions, but frankly there's no definitive version.
The PS1 version had the awful script.
The PSP version had bad slowdown.
The mobile version had horrible touch controls and timing issues with the animations and sound effects.
What we need is a proper remaster, for the big screen.
As in they are aware of how badly the games are perceived. It's damn near devil may cry 2 tier
