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Is it time for Mario Kart to receive the same treatment and focus as Smash?

StrappingYoungLance

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Neoxon said:
This is what I mean by "in-house".

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Refer to the section above "Subsidiaries", though Dark Samus, Diddy, & King K. Rool would also be fair game since they're fully Nintendo-owned.
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For real, I would be okay with it being limited to that first pocket, particularly if it meant every second character wasn't from Fire Emblem (it would be fun to have a character or two from FE with an FE track though).
 
mute

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MK has been pretty stale for me for a long time and while this isn't at the top of my list it would help.
 
karmitt

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I'm happy for them to do more with it, but I'm also pretty happy with the content that MK8 got. At this point a new game is all I want, and if it's modeled after MK8DX then so be it.

Brief aside....the real improvement I want for the next MK game is for Nintendo to actually have a system level chat and party function. I'm tired of having to use a second device and app. I'm tired of working out some awkard solution to hear my game sound and the voice chat sound without issue - my old solution was a set of tiny earbuds in my ears from the Switch, and a set of over-ears coming from the laptop or phone. Nintendo hasn't really been forced to talk about their garbage voice chat solution for a while, but when they were I couldn't stand how deliberately obtuse they were on the matter.
 

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FrostweaveBandage said:
So would you agree, then, that the next Smash need not change anything?

As others have said on the thread, MK8 is 12 years old. MK8D is not really new. If you think they can just release the same game over and over again and people will buy it, then why has Smash done all that its done? That's what I'm saying. New stages, a crap ton of new characters that they're still adding in - for a game series that was always going to be wildly successful.

I'm not a Nintendo fan per se. Just an observation that there's a great disparity between the two in reception.

I agree with the point earlier about it being more a party game, and parties ain't happening right now.
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you can just say you want new stuff in mario kart 8D, or a new mario kart game. no one would disagree with you. but your framing for your thread doesn't make sense. mario kart is probably more popular than it's ever been, and 8D (not even counting vanilla 8) is on its way to becoming the best selling title in the series.
the lack of updates/new content/new games, while annoying for fans, hasn't resulted in a decrease in popularity.
 
meataem

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How long will OP continue to ignore their weird claim of MK8D adding a story mode. I wonder.
 
Master Chuuster

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Does Mario Kart 8 Deluxe have some sort of hidden story mode that I have been oblivious of for three years? Someone please tell me
 
NotLiquid

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I prefer Mario Kart to just be "Mario" Kart, even if I would like to see expanded ways to play it. The MK8 guest stars are okay but only because they're treated as bonuses rather than the main focus.
 
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FrostweaveBandage said:
5k people watching Smash on Twitch right now.

300 watching MK.

My point still stands. And if they're selling so well, it makes even less sense not to try to exploit that.

Smash is still so popular after two years because they keep adding stuff to it.
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Eshop charts right now : Europe Mario kart 8 deluxe: 11th.

Smash bros: not in the top 30.
People watching on twitch and how popular or successful a game is are not the same thing.
 
Damn Silly

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So in response to the title question, they don't need to, but I wouldn't be opposed to them doing so.

That OP is a bit strange though.
 
Glio

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Saying that Smash Bros is more popular than Mario Kart is the best proof that you should leave the gaming bubble from time to time to talk to normal people.
 
Saicho

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I haven't seen someone so wrong since Michael Patcher said Nintendo should scratch Switch and sell only Switch Lite...
 
Fridaynightcatlady

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... story mode?

Also, the next MK should definitely go back to the DD style or at least allow players to choose partners. Double dash was so good. I miss special items, as well
 
SinCityAssassin

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Guys, I'm pretty sure he meant Battle Mode, but he's also so straight ahead on whatever this point is he has no idea what he's actually talking about.
 
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It'd be nice to see the next Mario Kart supported for a while longer and maybe a few crossover characters like Kirby yeah. It doesn't need that though, they could put out a sequel with minimal changes and it'd still sell like 15 million minimum.
 
SinCityAssassin

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Because, for SOME reason, he is conflating twitch viewership to...popularity?

As if people aren't just... playing Mario Kart. Anywhere around the world. And don't feel like streaming it.

Guys, MK11 just won fighting game of the year at the Game Awards. Yet it has less viewers than Runescape.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN.
 
maximumzero

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I just want Mario Kart 9. We're closing in on seven years without a new Mario Kart title, by far the longest between titles in the franchise's history.

And no, Mario Kart gacha edition doesn't count.
 
Sargerus

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I thought this was gonna be about OP wanting Mario to get red shelled by Sephiroth.
 

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I dunno if it would help someone like me who just generally dislikes Mario Kart's gameplay. I'd still play the odd race with friends as I do now, but darn, the gameplay simply isn't for me at all.

For everyone else, the game is still mad popular.
 
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Bad premise of OP aside, only real precedent is how Mario Kart DS had mission mode. Which is enjoyable for a game that had to have a solid single-player, but there's a reason the other games haven't bothered.

Double Dash's character-specific items would seem to cover the other demand. That's the one I've always gone back to for family multiplayer, and its speed and variety remain the best in the series IMO.

Like any of the series juggernauts Nintendo has, Mario Kart could become more complex without scaring away sales — it all depends on the system it comes out on. But I see no reason it will based on how the games have trended.
 
Dolce

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By the way my 12 year comment earlier in the thread was about the fact that we're still probably 4 years away from a Switch successor.

Edit: And somehow calculating from 2012 in my mind and not 2014.
 
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NotLiquid

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I'll say while I don't expect us to see Mario Kart 9 any time this console generation, I'm surprised Nintendo hasn't made a meaty expansion pack to capitalize on Mario Kart 8's evergreen sales. It feels like they could throw out a whole game's worth of new tracks, a few of the missing Mario Kart Tour characters, maybe a single player mission mode of some sorts, some kind of online event features like Smash/Splatoon has, and make a whole lot more money with Mario Kart on consoles without having to commit to a new game. So many of the important ongoing franchises that jumped over from Wii U to Switch have survived as ongoing service games like Splatoon (though Splatoon 2's content updates themselves are no more) and Smash Bros., yet Mario Kart has sort of avoided that entirely, even though it actually did get content updates during the Wii U.
 
sbenji

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That would be interesting to see. They have been pretty conservative with characters in Mario kart. Have a feeling they wouldn't need to do much to get a lot of sales. Mario kart 8 was a pretty conservative update all things considered.
 
Cantaim

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Master Chuuster said:
Does Mario Kart 8 Deluxe have some sort of hidden story mode that I have been oblivious of for three years? Someone please tell me
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It's wild I unlocked it the other day using the Konami code on the right frame in a certain track. Mario is smoking and doing hard drugs, Luigi is starting his own small business, and Peach don't even get me started at her attempts at regicide.
 
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FrostweaveBandage said:
Has MK waned in popularity this much that they don't find it worthwhile to do?
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It's Nintendo's biggest seller, and MK8 will likely end up the best selling MK
FrostweaveBandage said:
5k people watching Smash on Twitch right now.

300 watching MK.

My point still stands. And if they're selling so well, it makes even less sense not to try to exploit that.

Smash is still so popular after two years because they keep adding stuff to it.
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MK is by far, more popular than Smash. However, it includes a very different audience. The average Mario Kart player isn't going to be hyped by a character reveal trailer - they're not paying attention to that sort of thing.


FrostweaveBandage said:
MK8D introduced story mode which is a good start
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This didn't happen
FrostweaveBandage said:
each character getting their own special carts, moves, and weapons rather than just the shells and lightning bolts of the old days.
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They did this in Double-Dash
 
Ultima_5

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I️ want them to expand the roster to other Nintendo characters mostly so we can get evenmore variety in the maps. I'd be happy if the next one still played the same.
 
Oneiros

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Fighting game fans are much easier to milk with dlc characters. Racing game fans mostly want new levels.
 
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