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Is it really so wrong to want to be in an “echo chamber” sometimes?
- Thread starter DrScissorsMD
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I see nothing wrong in making your own echo chamber as long as you don't turn delusional. You know, like a private Discord or something. Not in a videogame FORUM, though.
Tired of the same old "so much negativity" posts. Grow up, they are rarely justified even in places as negative/critical as ERA.
EDIT: We are all posting in one already.
Tired of the same old "so much negativity" posts. Grow up, they are rarely justified even in places as negative/critical as ERA.
EDIT: We are all posting in one already.
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I wouldn't mind it sometimes when trying to enjoy some entertainment media. I gave up participating in TV show threads on Era because there are just too many people that watch shows so they can bitch about the most mundane shit that it just becomes tiresome.
I don't care for an echo chambers personally, but if I had a chance to be free from the never ending streams of vitriol and bad takes... sure, I'd take it in a heartbeat.
yes but is constant negativity healthy?
people seem to have this idea that constantly "criticizing" something is not the same shit as constantly overhyping something. OP even says he realizes that Destiny has some big ass flaws but it just drains that every time, they go in a Destiny thread those flaws are the main focus at all times. So while an Echo Chamber of "Destiny is great; fuck yall haters" is not the answer, its preferred because the discord of negativity is a lot worse.
To use an example I care about. FFXV was probably my GOTY the year it came out. Shit is flawed as fuck. Some really big missed opportunities. I know that. I hope most fans of the game know that. However, I still had a ball and loved my time w/ the game. BUT I would avoid all threads about the game because the same 3-5 posters who acted like the game killed their dogs would often dominate every thread about it evangelizing about how shit the game was, and the same 4-5 posters who though the game was the second coming would be in there defending it to the death..and the topic no matter what it was initially about would now be their battleground. No one has the time to wade through that shit every single time...so I started to avoid threads. Pokemon threads are closing in on that with mach speed too. GameFreak makes baffling decisions for sure but holy shit do we really have to rehash the same back and forth everytime? Eventually I just wonder wouldn't it be wiser to spend more time w/ things you do like than being mad at things you don't? At the end of the day...its just videogames. Yeah it sucks when something you liked changes in a way that you don't agree with but that doesn't mean everyone has to feel the same way (this goes both ways of course)...sometimes its cool to just move on, yknow?
I don't have anything wrong necessarily with a group of like minded people just wanting to gush about something they like but unfortunately things tend to not be so easily contained in such spaces and it also can be difficult to know when you aren't welcome if you're critical of such a thing because people tend to not like to openly declare that they are shutting out all criticisms due to the negative connotations that has.
Also yes that poll is bad.
Also yes that poll is bad.
It obviously isnt but there is never, NEVER constant negativity every time people say there is. Not in Destiny threads, not in pokemon threads, not anywhere in here. Hell not even the Fallout 76 threads during the peak fiasco were just negativity, plenty of people dropped by to say "uh well im still enjoying it lmao".
Unless you're going out of your way to paint every post that isnt gushing in praise as a negative in which case... the problem is you friend, not the others.
Echo chambers are boring.
I like to hear what people have to say, which is why I find putting people on "ignore", when it comes to videogames dumb. I'm not going to silence someone because their opinion about a videogame is different then mine.
I like to hear what people have to say, which is why I find putting people on "ignore", when it comes to videogames dumb. I'm not going to silence someone because their opinion about a videogame is different then mine.
I hear you, but what you're searching for isn't an echo chamber in this case, it's a community of people that aren't arseholes. A place where you can critique and have your own opinions critiqued, without it escalating into insults and who can shout the loudest.
Unfortunately on popular sites like this, or other social media, it's difficult to avoid, whether it's games, politics or whatever. "You have a different opinion to me! You must be burned at the stake!!!"
Wanting to discuss Destiny without constantly bringing up its faults isn't seeking out an "echo chamber", so long as you're aware of them.
A constant bombardment of criticism is exhausting; sometimes things exist as they are and there comes a time to either move on past it or just play what's for sale.
A constant bombardment of criticism is exhausting; sometimes things exist as they are and there comes a time to either move on past it or just play what's for sale.
If we're limiting this solely to opinions on gaming, then it's completely immature to get upset at someone having a different opinion about a goddamn video game or console.
It's just ridiculous how it works differently depending on the popularity of the game though. Like, I could take a what you'd call average game, let's use Daemon X Machina, and go "it's trash lol" and people wouldn't bat an eyelid outside of the people who are super in to it, but I could write an essay of constructive criticism on say Breath of the Wild, and I'm trolling, arguing in bad faith, and none of my opinions are valid.
I just don't see the point of effectively sitting in a room together and clapping at your favourite game.
It's just ridiculous how it works differently depending on the popularity of the game though. Like, I could take a what you'd call average game, let's use Daemon X Machina, and go "it's trash lol" and people wouldn't bat an eyelid outside of the people who are super in to it, but I could write an essay of constructive criticism on say Breath of the Wild, and I'm trolling, arguing in bad faith, and none of my opinions are valid.
I just don't see the point of effectively sitting in a room together and clapping at your favourite game.
Echo chamber is a fun phrase born the last few years. You would think with the rise of the internet and thus communication, Echo chambers would be eliminated but instead the clashing of ideals usually ends up with both sides going further in the direction they were already in.
I've noticed both progressive and conservative people in my own circle act VERY differently about their "side" on the internet vs. IRL. Same goes with video game opinions. On the internet, Its much more dramatic and outspoken. IRL, Its much more rational, level headed, and tolerant of opposing viewpoints.
Everything has both good and bad attached. Ignoring one side or the other leads to some type of negative consequence.
I've noticed both progressive and conservative people in my own circle act VERY differently about their "side" on the internet vs. IRL. Same goes with video game opinions. On the internet, Its much more dramatic and outspoken. IRL, Its much more rational, level headed, and tolerant of opposing viewpoints.
Everything has both good and bad attached. Ignoring one side or the other leads to some type of negative consequence.
I don't think echo chambers are "bad" in any strict sense, I just think they are boring and I personally prefer to avoid them.
When a group of people all agree on something they like it doesn't take long before you're just going through the motions, taking turns talking about how much you like things, which then you pretty much know the other person also likes because you already concede that you love the game.
I don't seek negative discussion but I prefer nuanced discussion about things where there's room for all forms of opinions.
When a group of people all agree on something they like it doesn't take long before you're just going through the motions, taking turns talking about how much you like things, which then you pretty much know the other person also likes because you already concede that you love the game.
I don't seek negative discussion but I prefer nuanced discussion about things where there's room for all forms of opinions.
Yeah, agree with this. I actually thought this thread was in the wrong forum, lol. Didn't expect it to be about games.
Please let me know when someone explains that, because it's infuriating. WTF is wrong with people?
What is the point of discussion, if only positive opinions are allowed? It's just everyone circle jerking about the same stuff. Constructive criticism is not a bad thing.
The fact that someone had to put a 'this is my opinion' disclaimer to the thread about not liking the new God of War was crazy, and even then they got absolutely slated for it.
Echo chambers are usually bad. You should always try to validate your opinion on facts, not echoes.
Having a discussion is useless if its "demanded" that everyone shares the same view before the talks even begin.
The only thing that a echo chamber will do for you is warp your perspective to something that is far from beeing objective.
Having a discussion is useless if its "demanded" that everyone shares the same view before the talks even begin.
The only thing that a echo chamber will do for you is warp your perspective to something that is far from beeing objective.
Considering this is strictly about games (I assume), I don't see it as a bad thing. Of course different opinions should be tolerated, but I definitely understand how extreme negativity can be off-putting. It easily turns into toxicity in internet discussion. I don't think you would be even asking this question if people were capable and/or willing to frame their criticism in constructive way and without the hyperbole.
I think on the internet people will do their best to rile up the other person. In real life the conversation and tone would go differently, but on the internet it's a brawl.
This. There is always that one guy who just can't abide someone liking a game and is ready to unleash the fusillade when the discussion gets too positive. It's exhausting.
Did you even read the OP?
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I try to consciously be more positive in regards to things especially when it really doesn't matter to be negative. Does anybody need to know I don't really care for some game? Nah, let the fans be positive about it and everyone can move on to something they like. If it's an important matter like a political issue or something then yeah it's important to talk about but I don't think I should just come into an OT and shit on a game all the time. Just move on if you don't like it. What's the harm is just being positive? You're accidentally nice?
I agree with the OP actually. It's unrelated to gaming but I'm a huge fan of the anime Boruto and it's really gotten me through some really tough times when it first started airing and I began to watch it with my friends. We turned it into a tradition to watch each week and it's really been the one time of the week I always look forward to. Unfortunately, I'm unable to discuss theories or anything about the show online because everywhere I look is filled with vile negativity towards the show, sometimes unreasonably so, and given that it's something that brings me such joy, it's unfortunate that I can't even look up anything about it without being flooded with negativity. So yes, I wish there was an "echo chamber" in a sense where I could discuss the show I love so much without people coming in and shitting on the show and me for enjoying it.
Yeah, there's so much good stuff to play and talk about too, I really don't see any sense dwelling in stuff that I don't like or aren't interested in. It's just games. And honestly, I don't think it does good to person's mental health either, I mean to the person who constantly engages in discussion with negative/toxic tone. Though from personal experience, my depression used to also fuel that negativity. But I think it works both ways.
You should be open to discussing things with people who you're not familiar with (I'm annoyed that I think I have to do this but no, this doesnt include kkk and other hate groups. That is unless you're actively trying to educate and reform them). It isn't good just to hear your what you're thinking. People could have a better way of doing something, could have ideas that you've never thought possible.
Depends on the topic. I think there are a few games on here that I really love and I end up throwing a bunch of initially positive threads on ignore because everyone whats to throw in their hot take. I would say something as low stakes as just wanting to talk positively in a positive thread on a game is nice. Not everything should devolve into the unoriginal shit slinging constantly.
When the thread invites debate, there shouldn't be an echo chamber or if it is a social issue (within reason). There is a specific thread on here I think gets away with too much by closing all outside opinion.
When the thread invites debate, there shouldn't be an echo chamber or if it is a social issue (within reason). There is a specific thread on here I think gets away with too much by closing all outside opinion.