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Is GTA Online ethical?

Avenger

Avenger

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Mar 31, 2019
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Say what you want about shark cards, but my issue is in regards to DLC not being available for single player. I'm not talking about heists, which I'm sure can be made available in some way as missions, but in regards to all the cars, boats and planes that have been released ?

Seems the whole point is to get us online and grind away or buy cards. But there doesn't seem any technical reason to not include that content for single players ?
 
Epinephrine

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Oct 27, 2017
842
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They have neither a moral nor ethical obligation to provide content from the multiplayer version of the game in the single player version. They're two separate experiences.
 
ASleepingMonkey

ASleepingMonkey

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Oct 26, 2017
4,498
Iowa
They used to put them in the story a long time ago. They stopped probably like 2016/2017 maybe. I don't remember the reason why, though.
 
ProstatePuncher

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Oct 28, 2017
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There's likely a million dependencies for the MP content in comparison to how SP functions, that they'd have to do a loooot of testing to cover implementation of new content. Its not gonna be a simple "port to SP" button kind of thing.

But yeah, fuck GTA:O.
 
TeenageFBI

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ASleepingMonkey said:
They used to put them in the story a long time ago. They stopped probably like 2016/2017 maybe. I don't remember the reason why, though.
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Not worth the cost of testing/implementing in single-player when most of the revenue they're getting is from the online mode. A dollar spent on multiplayer development returns more cash than a dollar spent developing single-player stuff.

I think it's a lousy reason but I'm one of the crazies that hasn't even launched the online mode. I'd sure love to buy a single-player expansion though!
 
Soupman Prime

Soupman Prime

The Fallen
Nov 8, 2017
8,603
Boston, MA
Wish I never stopped playing GTA Online, had a group of friends and I had some amazing moments with them and the game, so many memories.

I don't know how it all works out but it is kind of disappointing that the tons of content they've been adding is only going to the MP portion. Would they lose a ton of money if they allowed the vehicles and weapons from MP to also be in the single player portion?
 
darthbob

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Nov 20, 2017
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I wish we could use the Deluxo in the single player. :(
 
Moebius

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Oct 28, 2017
5,410
I simply stopped engaging in these games. Plenty of single player stuff to play or games that give you immediate gratification for free like Dreams. I don't have time or the motivation to grind away in GTA, PUBG, Apex Legends etc.
 
caff!!!

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Oct 29, 2017
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I think there was a video making the rounds of SP having bugs introduced in it due to not being touched from years of GTAO modifications. At least GTAO doesn't have a pay only currency, just cold hard cash. Also, don't play GTA:O on PC, it's nothing but hackers who will put a fireplace in you, put you in a cage, and have you hump the air at the same time and/or trolls who will air strike you and/or bomb you with hacked billions.
 
ASleepingMonkey

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Oct 26, 2017
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N_Cryo said:
*Online interactions are not rated by ESRB.
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that's not what that means lmao

That's saying they can't control what others players say and do. I believe new content still has to follow regulations, usually big expansions have to go through the ESRB board (but I think it's only if they're actual DLC and not an "update")
 
Javier23

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Oct 28, 2017
2,904
How immoral exactly are we talking about, OP. Not tipping a server kind of evil, laughing out loud at toddlers hurting themselves level of wrong, or not holding the door open for someone at an awkward distance type of unethical.
 
Kr1spy

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Oct 28, 2017
435
Silver Spring, MD
I don't think ethics has anything to do with them not putting MP content in the SP game. Under what ethical system/theory would this be behavior be deemed unacceptable? Does it miss Aristotle's golden mean? Does it violate Kant's categorical imperative? Would J.S. Mill say that it fails to produce the greatest good for the greatest number of people?

I rarely have any use for my philosophy degree so thanks for reminding me what I studied in college.
 
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Avenger

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Mar 31, 2019
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Com_Raven said:
This. Even after years, I must admit that people on this forum frequently manage to baffle me with their melodramatic, over-the-top threads. And I say this as someone who has zero interest in GTAO.
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Purposely stone walling single player customers from new content in exactly the same world but with exorbitant prices, is not being melodramatic.

To be clear, these are the same people that delayed heist for past generation due to issues and repackage the game with heists at $60 for current generation.

Wheres the pro and x patch? The money is certainty there.
 
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Fawz

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Oct 28, 2017
3,676
Montreal
They never took content away from the initial offering or promise, so that one mode gets additions over another is in no way shape or form wrong. It's not ideal to some sure, but from a buisness standpoint makes the most sense to incentivize a drive towards playing the mode where they have monitization

Some of the additions would be a fairly easy plug into the Single Player, as evidenced by the mods on PC, but many of them would require some form of additional dev time and clearly they don't feel that's worth the potential gains/losses
 

ThisIsBlitz21

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Oct 22, 2018
4,663
Their decision to not make DLC had nothing to do with ethics/morals.

They just don't offer the product you want (and I want). But that doesnt make it immoral.
 
Patitoloco

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm really surprised you are even trying to argue that it's not ethical (lol) for them to keep adding content to their game, like they have an obligation or anything to support their games at your liking. "Yo why can't I play with my golden akimbo shotgun in my COD campaign, I'm entitled to that content". Come on.

The absolute extremes people in this forum reach to complain about something.
 
Com_Raven

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Oct 27, 2017
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Avenger said:
Purposely stone walling single player customers from new content in exactly the same world but with exorbitant prices, is not being melodramatic.
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To be honest, saying you are being melodramatic was almost generous. Complaining that a company is not releasing additional new content (which they never said they would, nor have any obligation to) in a way you want them to is "unethical" feels like peak gamer discourse.
 
platypotamus

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Oct 25, 2017
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On on a semi related note, if for example, I downloaded GTA V from Epic for free, but got my fill of solo content on the console awhile back (borrowed copy), how far into the single player do I have to get before I can go online? Please say I can do it without ever firing up the single player.
 
cakely

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Oct 27, 2017
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platypotamus said:
On on a semi related note, if for example, I downloaded GTA V from Epic for free, but got my fill of solo content on the console awhile back (borrowed copy), how far into the single player do I have to get before I can go online? Please say I can do it without ever firing up the single player.
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Yeah, they're completely separate.

When you roll a new character in GTAO you have to make a character, watch some cutscenes and do a mandatory mission. Then you're off to get griefed.
 
chrominance

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Oct 25, 2017
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"Never mind the actual thing that might be an ethical concern, let's talk about why a company isn't giving me the content I clearly want and therefore are unethical for withholding"
 
Anth0ny

Anth0ny

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Oct 25, 2017
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get it on pc and install a trainer

you can spawn the batmobile in single player in 2 seconds
 
XR.

XR.

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Nov 22, 2018
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I think the monetization is questionable at best, but the lack of singleplayer DLC is not unethical or morally wrong. You may be disappointed but the reality is they're not obligated to provide new content, paid or otherwise.
 
Jakisthe

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Oct 25, 2017
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The one aspect that could possibly be seen as "unethical" is the absurd pay to win mechanics/apparent lack of cheating control, but seems OP wants to skim right over that for whatever reason.

MP exclusive content is not "unethical"; like, is this a serious question...?
 

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Avenger said:
Say what you want about shark cards, but my issue is in regards to DLC not being available for single player. I'm not talking about heists, which I'm sure can be made available in some way as missions, but in regards to all the cars, boats and planes that have been released ?

Seems the whole point is to get us online and grind away or buy cards. But there doesn't seem any technical reason to not include that content for single players ?
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GTA online isn't ethical, but not for the reasons you're describing.

I believe they added a literal casino to the game making it effectively a gambling game without the detriment to themselves (no oversight and they never have to pay out) which is pretty damn insidious when you know a lot of children play your game.
 
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