I disagree. I would have less of a problem with it if it was actually depicted by the character herself. But the fact that the "perfect fairer sex" was just regurgitated to us by male characters makes it a lot harder to feel its organic character building and more of just using ideals about femininity from hundreds of years ago.
Again I didn't use it wrongly, I specifically stated what I found to be oversimplified and patronizing. I'm not conitnuning to have the semantics debate with you. Youve really latched onto that aspect of my argument and it seems its only because you don't want to respond to the main points Ive addressed for why this is problematic. Ive addressed why only male characters depicting her in this light is an issue. You want to keep ignoring that context and acting as if I'm saying you can't say positive things about female characters. If you want to ignore the context to which Ive provided for why this way of building her character is problematic that says a hell of a lot about the lengths youre willing to go to to suggest shes a strong female character despite the fact that everything you can glean from her has nothing to do with her as a character or anyone from that gender.
Shrug, so what youre saying is I didn't even have to make the disclaimer about her god hood because she lived as a mortal giant which would negate any suggestion that she was a perfect person? Ok, thanks for reminding me and making my argument that much stronger. Having male personifications of a perfect woman without getting to see or understand that character through any other means but mansplaining is problematic.
In addition to the fact that she was nothing but a mechanism to give our male leads motivation, by dying, and then only having her character taught to us by the various male characters throughout the game.
You yourself admitted or implied you didn't know what mansplaining meant. When I asked you to learn what the term meant, your response was "
Maybe" followed by more mis-characterised complaints. The only reason you're now going with the argument that all the recollections and stories of Faye were condescending or patronising, is because I later explained that the definition of mansplaining isn't just men explaining things to women, but that the explanation has to also be condescending, patronising, arrogant, insulting etc. Only since then are you (imo disingenuously) claiming the stories of Faye constituted those things.
So let me ask you this, at what point did any of the stories about Faye involve any patronising, condescension, or insult? Please explain how you've come to this conclusion or what made you think this.
Also, why do you keep referring to
"perfect fairer sex"? What do you even mean by this? Are you suggesting that any such positive depiction of a female character that isn't alive, by other male characters (the very few that are in the game) is an inherently negative thing? Should living male characters in stories never compliment or speak highly of dead female characters?
To that point, Faye's skin colour or appearance was never promoted, nor was her gender ever a key point of any of her compliments, rather they were merely stories of the decent, commendable and noble things she did or the abilities or prowess she possessed. Further to that, Faye was never referred to as a perfect being nor is the implication that she is perfect, simply that she is decent, revered and powerful. The misconstrued argument that she's fair and perfect, like most of your other arguments, are false assumptions you yourself have conjured to be an issue because of your own inherent biases or preconceived notions/narratives.
And yes, you claiming she is a God does matter, because it's just one more example that highlights how you likely didn't actually pay much attention to the story or what characters were even saying about her to begin with.
Finally, on the point about Faye being fair, whilst it is likely and possible that Faye is fair skinned since they are in Scandinavian esque regions and the world set in Norse mythology, her skin colour isn't actually specified. In the murals her skin colour is actually depicted as ever so slightly darker than Kratos and Atreus.
Kratos and Atreus mural
Faye mural
