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Teh_Lurv

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,114
need more incentive to shop there. If they had a 20% off GCU type promotion, it'd give me a reason to go, else Best Buy (GCU), Target (B2G1), Amazon (great price drops) and digital gets my $

You do realize that those promotions are gone?

I have my beefs with Gamestop, however I think when/if the company goes out of business people are going to be in for a rude awakening. I think there is some mis-guided belief that if Gamestop dies, there is going to be a renaissance of independent game stores and it's going to be like it was in the late-90s/early-00s. In reality nothing is going to replace Gamestop, because if a nationwide chain can't compete against the big box stores and online, you can be as sure as Hell mom-and-pop stores aren't going to fill that niche. The only reason indie physical game-stores exist at all is because they filled the retrogame/last gen market that the big players opted to ignore.
 

Razgriz417

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,119
You do realize that those promotions are gone?

I have my beefs with Gamestop, however I think when/if the company goes out of business people are going to be in for a rude awakening. I think there is some mis-guided belief that if Gamestop dies, there is going to be a renaissance of independent game stores and it's going to be like it was in the late-90s/early-00s. In reality nothing is going to replace Gamestop, because if a nationwide chain can't compete against the big box stores and online, you can be as sure as Hell mom-and-pop stores aren't going to fill that niche. The only reason indie physical game-stores exist at all is because they filled the retrogame/last gen market that the big players opted to ignore.
my gcu lasts until march 2020 so I'm still good with them. Target B2G1 free applies to preorders and happen twice a year (though not switch games), with a 90 day return policy and free shipping. Amazon has consistently had $50 preorders on the titles I'm interested in. With the competition right now, I see no value to going to gamestop for my new releases.
 

Spongehead56

Member
Jul 6, 2018
210
Wisconsin
I love shopping at my local Gamestop. I buy all my physical games there (which is 75% of my gaming purchases) and like being able to trade-in games and buy used copies. I also like checking out the merch, though I've never bought any for myself (just as gifts for my nephew).

I hope Gamestop improves its business practices, focuses its brand, and is around for a long time to come.
 

Bog

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,428
Not canceling in-store pickup orders (because the employees want said item instead) would be a start.
 

NinjaScooter

Member
Oct 25, 2017
54,593
This is another thing they don't understand: they managed to take the simple concept of walking up to a counter to buy an item and turn it into this wild crazy overwhelming/complicated experience. I can't tell you how many times I've seen "I just want to buy my game and go" as a critique of Gamestop. I think everyone is unanimous in agreement that it's stupid and sours an otherwise ordinary experience... somehow.

Like how do you make a simple transaction painful? It's like they looked at fast food places "what size? would you like fries with that? what drink? apple pie for $1 more?" and thought "yeah let's do that but double the amount of steps and questions". A lot of people will jump in and try to say it's not that bad but I have literally never gone to a Gamestop, asked them for X game, they say okay that'll be [total], me pay, and then walk out with my receipt. There's ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS strings attached and more questions and things I have to say no to, and questions about my points, and suggestions for me to buy used instead etc etc.

Are they insecure about the idea of them making it simple and possibly making people not see the point of even going there without any needless bells and whistles?

They have to do this because the margins on new games probably aren't good enough to sustain their business unless at least a few people are also buying all the other shit like magazine subs, game insurance, preorders, funko pops, memberships ect... they can't afford to just sell you the game with no frills like Target or Best Buy can.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,553
The dreaded words "GameStop Exclusive" for things like amiibo or physical game releases that I want is like a swift kick to the groin. Having to go in there for codes for pokemon giveaways sucks. I just hate going in there period.

The absolute pain of trying to get Ness on their instore preorder system was such fucking bullshit.

What their decline really means is that the major platform holders are starting to figure out how to squeeze out the middle man by making it convenient to buy directly from them. Kills the secondhand market pretty well too.
 

NinjaScooter

Member
Oct 25, 2017
54,593
You do realize that those promotions are gone?

I have my beefs with Gamestop, however I think when/if the company goes out of business people are going to be in for a rude awakening. I think there is some mis-guided belief that if Gamestop dies, there is going to be a renaissance of independent game stores and it's going to be like it was in the late-90s/early-00s. In reality nothing is going to replace Gamestop, because if a nationwide chain can't compete against the big box stores and online, you can be as sure as Hell mom-and-pop stores aren't going to fill that niche. The only reason indie physical game-stores exist at all is because they filled the retrogame/last gen market that the big players opted to ignore.

I don't think very many people think this at all.

Smaller shops may spring up, like you might find an indie record or movie store here and there, but I don't think anybody expects that to fill Gamestop's place in the market. If GameStop has failed, it will be because that place in the market is rapidly shrinking or no longer exists. This is the peril of being a dedicated physical media shop. It happened to music. It happened to movies. Even though gaming has not been adapting to digital at the same rate, it has been adapting, and all that does is shrink your potential user base year after year unless you can miraculous pivot your entire business model to something else. Nobody wants to be in a business with no potential for growth.
 

TeHi & BuSp

Banned
Sep 28, 2018
985
It's inevitable... indeed they managed to stay in the market more than imaginable.
And I say this with sadness because behind those counters there are real people.
 

Cr1st0

Member
Oct 28, 2017
635
I hope they drop as hard as their used game prices were and the trade in value they gave. They fucked up the market
 

werezompire

Zeboyd Games
Verified
Oct 26, 2017
11,541
I visited a Gamestop recently after being out of the country for a couple of years and it was quite the eye-opener. The collectible segment of the store had really taken over.

As a gamer, going to a Gamestop is an unpleasant experience so it's no wonder it's struggling. Between the cramped aisles, gutted games, cringe-worthy collectibles, and upselling employees, it's just not fun to be there. And it's not like they have great selection either - yeah, they have more selection than a Walmart, but it's still just the latest games with older consoles/games getting transitioned out quickly so you can get much better selection from digital stores.

I think the big change they need to make is to make it fun to go to a Gamestop. Fewer, larger stores with modern games and systems/games from the pre-digital eras (aka something people actually need to buy physically if they want) so it's fun to browse and pick up a classic game on a whim. Offer services like rentals that other stores don't have. Put on events like tournaments. Maybe even build a mini-arcade into each store - you know that people in the store are probably interested in video games (or at least buying them as gifts) so why not offer them a couple classic machines & the latest HotD?
 

TSM

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,846
They are basically fighting against the way consumers shop. It's a specialty store so the only foot traffic they will get is people specifically going out of their way to shop for games and accessories. In the age of the internet most people can buy what they want online without any of that hassle, find exactly what they want in stock and probably at a better price. Basically the solution would for them to be something other than a specialty retailer.
 

deathsaber

Member
Nov 2, 2017
3,106
They are circling the drain- but whether they hold on for 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, is the question. But their day will come.

Between the proliferation of digital sales, the reduced demand for used games, traditionally their most profitable segment (plus they seem to be de-incentivizing them pretty hard with recent policy changes), and just the overall slow death pretty much all non big box mall-basedretail is experiencing, its really just a matter of time.

But, you know, maybe they reduce the number of stores, reorganize/downsize a bit, and hang on for longer than anyone thinks. Who knows?
 

VPplaya

Member
Nov 20, 2018
1,973
Does it really need to recover? We have all heard countless horror stories about how they treat their employees. From personal experience every time I go there I get a million requests to pre-order games/other nonsense (again, not blaming the employees here). Just because a company has been around for a long time does not mean it has to be saved if it can no longer compete.
 

Tebunker

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,844
Considering that the old retail model of a store on every corner is very very dead for many sectors it is amazing they've held out this long.

They have too much inventory and too many locations and they took way too damned long to leverage that structure.

I mean shit, you know what would have really helped them over the last 10 years? Better vertical integration of inventory and using their stores as local warehouses and hubs. It would have moved more stuff in stores and they would have been able to give better shipping rates and delivery times. Especially for used games. They only really started doing this recently.

They have/had too much administrator overhead until recently I believe. Way too many middle managers and admins who probably didn't need to be there.

Lastly the whole model was quickly becoming outdated and they completely fucked up killing Funcoland. They forgot what it means to be a specialty destination retail business. They homogenized way too much, killed their identity and haven't been able to justify buying from them over better retailers. So BB, Target, Walmart and Amazon just did what they do but better in all regards and with better buying power.

They should have leaned in on being the one stop shop for all gaming, owned the retro space, owned the clone systems, owned the weird boutique stuff and even added temporary offerings on imports etc. Essentially they should have leveraged their size to be like a Nationwide local shop. If you wanted something, import or rare etc, they should have had a way for you to order it through their stores/site. Like they should have been Estarland , PlayAsia, Your Local Shop and the best damned retro shop rolled in to one. Less stores, offering a better variety to all people who enjoy games and then they would have needed to rely as hard on the circle of life bullshit of sell new game, take in trades of that game, to fund more new game sales etc.

Instead they wanted to be like Starbucks when people were already leaning away from that.

Can they fix it? Yes. Will they? Probably not. Is that good? Depends on what happens with the remains.

Me personally if I was a private equity firm I'd try to get em for cheap and implement my ideas from above along with more middle management removal, hiring better specialists in stores, adding more boutique type services etc, eliminate a lot of leases and consolidate. There is still room in the market for this kind of shop but not in their current config.
 

PMS341

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt-account
Banned
Oct 29, 2017
6,634
Does it really need to recover? We have all heard countless horror stories about how they treat their employees. From personal experience every time I go there I get a million requests to pre-order games/other nonsense (again, not blaming the employees here). Just because a company has been around for a long time does not mean it has to be saved if it can no longer compete.

I was a manager for 7+ years and upper management really only got worse. I can't even imagine the abuse that current employees have to deal with on a daily basis. Good riddance.
 

night814

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 29, 2017
15,071
Pennsylvania
Does GameStop still sell opened games as new?

Not sure why I would give them money over a retailer that actually sells new products.
Yes, just a few months back in March I believe I went to trade a few things to get Spider-Man for nothing and the manager who I've known for years opens a fresh copy to put it in a black GS case. Never called foul so fast in my life.

They just have too many stores and don't sell enough stuff worth the trip, trying to browse their stores is like looking for a needle in a haystack of Pops! And random gaming plushies. When I have gone it's always for a specific game.
 

ChaosZeroX

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,370
Honestly they just need to come out with a GCU type membership and I'd buy it. Pay 60 bucks a year for 20% off all new games and whatever else they want to include,.
 

night814

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 29, 2017
15,071
Pennsylvania
Considering that the old retail model of a store on every corner is very very dead for many sectors it is amazing they've held out this long.

They have too much inventory and too many locations and they took way too damned long to leverage that structure.

I mean shit, you know what would have really helped them over the last 10 years? Better vertical integration of inventory and using their stores as local warehouses and hubs. It would have moved more stuff in stores and they would have been able to give better shipping rates and delivery times. Especially for used games. They only really started doing this recently.

They have/had too much administrator overhead until recently I believe. Way too many middle managers and admins who probably didn't need to be there.

Lastly the whole model was quickly becoming outdated and they completely fucked up killing Funcoland. They forgot what it means to be a specialty destination retail business. They homogenized way too much, killed their identity and haven't been able to justify buying from them over better retailers. So BB, Target, Walmart and Amazon just did what they do but better in all regards and with better buying power.

They should have leaned in on being the one stop shop for all gaming, owned the retro space, owned the clone systems, owned the weird boutique stuff and even added temporary offerings on imports etc. Essentially they should have leveraged their size to be like a Nationwide local shop. If you wanted something, import or rare etc, they should have had a way for you to order it through their stores/site. Like they should have been Estarland , PlayAsia, Your Local Shop and the best damned retro shop rolled in to one. Less stores, offering a better variety to all people who enjoy games and then they would have needed to rely as hard on the circle of life bullshit of sell new game, take in trades of that game, to fund more new game sales etc.

Instead they wanted to be like Starbucks when people were already leaning away from that.

Can they fix it? Yes. Will they? Probably not. Is that good? Depends on what happens with the remains.

Me personally if I was a private equity firm I'd try to get em for cheap and implement my ideas from above along with more middle management removal, hiring better specialists in stores, adding more boutique type services etc, eliminate a lot of leases and consolidate. There is still room in the market for this kind of shop but not in their current config.
Imports would have actually been incredible, they won't even accept out of region discs even though they work fine in any region. Amazon last year sent me a EU copy of FFXII and after not really enjoying it I tried to trade it in toward Spider-Man and they refused. I figured they would but I still thought it was silly.
 

Deleted member 56773

User requested account closure
Banned
May 16, 2019
159
Gamestop should go under....they are absolutely horrible.

you can buy new games online or from other stores physical or digital and you can get a much better deal selling and buying used games directly from people. They have a horrible return policy and they're just generally complete garbage. Working there is atrocious from all accounts so....just let them die?
 

Crayon

Member
Oct 26, 2017
15,580
Make the store fun to go to for people who like video games.

Start by making the store not the worst to go to.

if all they can think of is new loyalty programs, they deserve to go under.
 

t26

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
4,591
Gamestop should go under....they are absolutely horrible.

you can buy new games online or from other stores physical or digital and you can get a much better deal selling and buying used games directly from people. They have a horrible return policy and they're just generally complete garbage. Working there is atrocious from all accounts so....just let them die?
Once GameStop is gone, a good number of games won't exist physically
 

Gay Bowser

Member
Oct 30, 2017
17,754
When Gamestop is gone, they'll be missed.

Honestly, I kind of doubt it. The smaller indie stores they killed? Those are missed. The chains that became GameStop, like Babbages and Software Etc? Those are missed.

But this current shambling homunculus of a company? No.

Everything people once liked about GameStop is gone, except for Game Informer, which would presumably be spun off and survive.
 

mrmoose

Member
Nov 13, 2017
21,314
Best Buy recovered and frankly they have better pricing and selection than Amazon these days .

Gamestops problem is they've become the sweaty and nerdy HMV or Spencer's gifts that sell video games and smell like body odor . I'm physically repulsed from the stores. And If I want to shop in a brick and mortar store, I go to Best Buy

Best Buy recovery was largely in appliances, wasn't it? Their media section and games section are pretty dilapidated at this point. I don't think Gamestop can pivot to selling Washers and Fridges.
 

Rygar 8Bit

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,004
Site-15
Competing against digital, online storefronts and also other retail stores like Walmart and the like. It's going to be hard for them to stay in business unless they add some sort of service you can't get anywhere else.
 

Aaron D.

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,356
They are basically fighting against the way consumers shop. It's a specialty store so the only foot traffic they will get is people specifically going out of their way to shop for games and accessories. In the age of the internet most people can buy what they want online without any of that hassle, find exactly what they want in stock and probably at a better price. Basically the solution would for them to be something other than a specialty retailer.

This is my take as well.

Consumer habits have changed over the past decade as entertainment media has gone mostly digital. Whether it's the content itself (books, music, movies and games) or the shopping experience (online shopping is inherently more convenient).

Don't have an answer for GameStop as it feels like their entire business model is dated and not in step with the way people obtain & enjoy entertainment media today.

No one cried when goods like mechanical typewriters or rooftop antennas went belly up. Technology just made those industries obsolete.

Baring some serious witchcraft, I see the same for specialty shops like GameStop.
 

werezompire

Zeboyd Games
Verified
Oct 26, 2017
11,541
I know they've carried reprints of old games in the past and tried to push them off as used copies. It'd be nice if they started doing that on a wider scale and less sneakily, along with a general retro library of games & systems. Like make a deal with the relevant companies and print new copies of rare, sought after stuff like Panzer Dragoon Saga and Snatcher and sell them as a store exclusive. Use different packaging so you don't make the collectors angry.
 

Dekuman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
19,039
Best Buy recovery was largely in appliances, wasn't it? Their media section and games section are pretty dilapidated at this point. I don't think Gamestop can pivot to selling Washers and Fridges.
I don't know the specifics but here in Canada their online games store has better pricing, always free shipping and selection than Amazon.ca and your not falling into 3rd party seller traps.
 

pixelpatron

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,542
Seattle
Please forward to GameStop CEO,

Been to GameStop's all my life, bought many console launch systems from back to the N64 with Turok and Mario 64, to a PlayStation Pro with the Last Guardian, to my launch Switch with Breath of the Wild.

I used to love your stores, but over the last few decades they've deteriorated. Most are smelly, over crowded, flea market feeling, gross experiences.

Games, you know...the thing you sell? Where is the love? For those of us still buying our games physically; I don't appreciate buying a new game from your stores to see my game has already left shrink wrap; or buying used, and see game cases that look as though they were fished from a dumpster, or pricing and markdown stickers that when attempting to remove - destroy the case. This is your product, and it's not treated as such. So gross. You can do better.

The experience. Going to gamestop should be an adventure for the customer, should be gaming station kiosks that work, sanitizing stations for people to clean their hands, and playable games on display that I couldn't play or have access to otherwise. Demo's I can play at home are not going to get me in your store. What would get me in a store (and possibly a pre-order to boot) is an alpha version of the game prior to release! Why are you not making deals with publishers to get early access? "Come in and try the new Call of Duty or Assassins Creed one month before release" and while your at it get some pre-orders? Get the review copies media outlets get early and do the same thing. It's a win win for developers, publishers and your stores. A crowd of people waiting in line to play a new game 2 to 3 weeks before release? You don't think gamers would come? Pre launch event? Publishers wouldn't be interested in that pre-release buzz? You couldn't feature these events in Game Informer? Get cosplayers to show up for these events? Midnight launches are one thing, but seeing people stand with Master Chief or Mario in the middle of a mall taking selfies and posting to their social media weeks before major releases will drive traffic to your stores. It's about providing an experience I can't get anywhere else. Right now my experience is add item to cart and check my doorstep. You'll have to beat that.

Clean your stores, require proper hygiene for your employees. Have some standards for crying out loud. Don't bug me about pre-orders every time I buy anything or phone, treat me like a valued customer instead of a number.

Retro gaming. It's a thing, it's non existent in your stores. Where are the retro gaming consoles and kiosks? Or the new mini consoles? Why? Cause new stuff has higher profit margins? You're not interested in classic gamers? Collectors won't spend as much on an old system as they would new stuff? Maybe. Yet with that mindset you're telling me McDonald's won't sell Bigmac's because of the dollar menu. You're a gaming store, gaming has a long history, your sign says "GameStop", but it largely ignores retro gaming as being spotlight worthy.

Merchandise. Gamers like stuff from their favorite games. We like seeing our favorite characters from our games as keychains, backpacks, clothing, plush, toys, jewelry and figures. Yet we don't want crap. We don't want low effort garage sale fodder. While obviously higher end merchandise aligns with quality; but why stock stuff that obviously is of such low quality (regardless of its sales margin) if in the end gamers are not interested sheerly based on the items lack of quality, accuracy, charm, construction? Hire some potential customers to review your stock of merchandise pre-inventory purchase to determine if it's even something customers want. You appear to not do this, or the person(s) doing this work is severely out of touch to what gamers want.

Birthday parties for gamers. Parents rent out party rooms at movie theaters, jump gyms, and skate/bowling alleys. You mean to tell me you couldn't accommodate space in some of your stores that are big enough to perform this function? There are not empty unused mall storefronts you couldn't utilize to provide such? You have all the games, you don't mind opening them before you sell to customers anyway...why not provide an experience for Birthday gaming?

A true rewards program. The discounts and incentives currently provided are not enough, reward loyal customers better, or provide free club memberships if certain criteria are meet? Purchase more than 4 new games a year? 6-8 used? Bam free membership in rewards that in turn lead to free games, discounts, and vip status at events like PAX or on-line Q&A slack/Skype for Game Informer interviews your doing anyway? Developers wouldn't want that access to die hard fans!? I dunno...figure something out.

Your stores don't appear to value the quality of the products, my time, my purchases, my trade-ins, my experience, or my loyalty. Pick one or better pick all of them. Rapidly and majorly enact big sweeping changes, or continue to watch your stock continue to slide.

Good luck,

-Gamers (and this developer)
 

Gay Bowser

Member
Oct 30, 2017
17,754
I visited a Gamestop recently after being out of the country for a couple of years and it was quite the eye-opener. The collectible segment of the store had really taken over.

As a gamer, going to a Gamestop is an unpleasant experience so it's no wonder it's struggling. Between the cramped aisles, gutted games, cringe-worthy collectibles, and upselling employees, it's just not fun to be there. And it's not like they have great selection either - yeah, they have more selection than a Walmart, but it's still just the latest games with older consoles/games getting transitioned out quickly so you can get much better selection from digital stores.

I think the big change they need to make is to make it fun to go to a Gamestop. Fewer, larger stores with modern games and systems/games from the pre-digital eras (aka something people actually need to buy physically if they want) so it's fun to browse and pick up a classic game on a whim. Offer services like rentals that other stores don't have. Put on events like tournaments. Maybe even build a mini-arcade into each store - you know that people in the store are probably interested in video games (or at least buying them as gifts) so why not offer them a couple classic machines & the latest HotD?
Make the store fun to go to for people who like video games.

Start by making the store not the worst to go to.

if all they can think of is new loyalty programs, they deserve to go under.

Both of these get to the core of the issue.

GameStop should be a store that is well-loved on this forum, because we all (practically by definition) love video games. That so many of us have a negative opinion of them is actually kind of impressive, in a way.

GameStop should be a fun store. They sell games! And toys! But everything about the store is almost aggressively unpleasant, from the cold fluorescent lighting to the overly cluttered walkways to the dump bins. It feels like a garage sale in a hoarder house, not a nice place to spend some time.

The stores that are going to survive are going to be the ones where the experience is better than shopping online, or at least not dramatically worse. GameStop can't compete on price, and they can't compete on selection, and they can't compete on convenience. They'll have to compete on experience. They'll have to learn how to be a fun place to be.
 
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Ouroboros

Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,178
United States
I'm going to Gamestop today for the first time in over a year just to pick up some cheap BC xbox 360 titles for my newly aquired Xbone.

I hate going to the store, but its the cheapest around to get those games.

The employees are always nice though.
 

night814

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 29, 2017
15,071
Pennsylvania
People have suggested it before but they should really clear out a nice sized space and use it for competitive gaming, every weekend they could run a few small tourneys and people might actually want to enter their stores on a regular basis. I'm sure other stores in their same shopping plazas would love the extra business like pizza places and fast food.
 

Deleted member 224

Oct 25, 2017
5,629
They're dying. I used to go to GameStop all the time to buy games. But as others have said I'd much rather just go to Target or Walmart now. Every time you go in you're asked about their power up card (always with a follow up "are you sure"), protection plans, and pre orders.

I just hope they survive through next year. I need to trade in my X towards a next gen console.
 

NinjaScooter

Member
Oct 25, 2017
54,593
Please forward to GameStop CEO,

Been to GameStop's all my life, bought many console launch systems from back to the N64 with Turok and Mario 64, to a PlayStation Pro with the Last Guardian, to my launch Switch with Breath of the Wild.

I used to love your stores, but over the last few decades they've deteriorated. Most are smelly, over crowded, flea market feeling, gross experiences.

Games, you know...the thing you sell? Where is the love? For those of us still buying our games physically; I don't appreciate buying a new game from your stores to see my game has already left shrink wrap; or buying used, and see game cases that look as though they were fished from a dumpster, or pricing and markdown stickers that when attempting to remove - destroy the case. This is your product, and it's not treated as such. So gross. You can do better.

The experience. Going to gamestop should be an adventure for the customer, should be gaming station kiosks that work, sanitizing stations for people to clean their hands, and playable games on display that I couldn't play or have access to otherwise. Demo's I can play at home are not going to get me in your store. What would get me in a store (and possibly a pre-order to boot) is an alpha version of the game prior to release! Why are you not making deals with publishers to get early access? "Come in and try the new Call of Duty or Assassins Creed one month before release" and while your at it get some pre-orders? Get the review copies media outlets get early and do the same thing. It's a win win for developers, publishers and your stores. A crowd of people waiting in line to play a new game 2 to 3 weeks before release? You don't think gamers would come? Pre launch event? Publishers wouldn't be interested in that pre-release buzz? You couldn't feature these events in Game Informer? Get cosplayers to show up for these events? Midnight launches are one thing, but seeing people stand with Master Chief or Mario in the middle of a mall taking selfies and posting to their social media weeks before major releases will drive traffic to your stores. It's about providing an experience I can't get anywhere else. Right now my experience is add item to cart and check my doorstep. You'll have to beat that.

Clean your stores, require proper hygiene for your employees. Have some standards for crying out loud. Don't bug me about pre-orders every time I buy anything or phone, treat me like a valued customer instead of a number.

Retro gaming. It's a thing, it's non existent in your stores. Where are the retro gaming consoles and kiosks? Or the new mini consoles? Why? Cause new stuff has higher profit margins? You're not interested in classic gamers? Collectors won't spend as much on an old system as they would new stuff? Maybe. Yet with that mindset you're telling me McDonald's won't sell Bigmac's because of the dollar menu. You're a gaming store, gaming has a long history, your sign says "GameStop", but it largely ignores retro gaming as being spotlight worthy.

Merchandise. Gamers like stuff from their favorite games. We like seeing our favorite characters from our games as keychains, backpacks, clothing, plush, toys, jewelry and figures. Yet we don't want crap. We don't want low effort garage sale fodder. While obviously higher end merchandise aligns with quality; but why stock stuff that obviously is of such low quality (regardless of its sales margin) if in the end gamers are not interested sheerly based on the items lack of quality, accuracy, charm, construction? Hire some potential customers to review your stock of merchandise pre-inventory purchase to determine if it's even something customers want. You appear to not do this, or the person(s) doing this work is severely out of touch to what gamers want.

Birthday parties for gamers. Parents rent out party rooms at movie theaters, jump gyms, and skate/bowling alleys. You mean to tell me you couldn't accommodate space in some of your stores that are big enough to perform this function? There are not empty unused mall storefronts you couldn't utilize to provide such? You have all the games, you don't mind opening them before you sell to customers anyway...why not provide an experience for Birthday gaming?

A true rewards program. The discounts and incentives currently provided are not enough, reward loyal customers better, or provide free club memberships if certain criteria are meet? Purchase more than 4 new games a year? 6-8 used? Bam free membership in rewards that in turn lead to free games, discounts, and vip status at events like PAX or on-line Q&A slack/Skype for Game Informer interviews your doing anyway? Developers wouldn't want that access to die hard fans!? I dunno...figure something out.

Your stores don't appear to value the quality of the products, my time, my purchases, my trade-ins, my experience, or my loyalty. Pick one or better pick all of them. Rapidly and majorly enact big sweeping changes, or continue to watch your stock continue to slide.

Good luck,

-Gamers (and this developer)

These are all good ideas in an ideal world or in a vacuum (though I don't think GameStop is at all equipped in terms of space or organization to make most of the happen) but I'm not sure how much that helps their business model. I don't think, at the scale they operate, the answer is to target niche/hardcore gamers. The answer to the question of "why does GameStop do X?" asked around here is almost always going to be "because they have to". They can't adford not to. I have to imagine their business model has very little margin for error.

Their stores are small and disorganized and unpleasant but in large part that's because they have to fill them up with the crap (merch, used games, trinkets) that they actually make money on.
 
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how can it recover? Become one of these:

-cost leader
-niche player
-differentiator

Do they have the best prices? do they go after a very specific demographic? do they do something none of their competitors are doing?

No, so they are doomed.
 

HotHamBoy

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Oct 27, 2017
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They are all but gone by 2020/21 unless someone buys them, closes a ton of stores, and. they go more niche.

They are selling a dying medium when the big 3 are pushing digital distribution.
I don't think this is true. Everytime I go to a Gamestop, regardless of location, i see plenty of people coming in and buying stuff.

Not just games. They have a ton of merchandise, it's like 50% of the store. They're approaching "Hot Topic but for Gaming."
 
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Sell thinkgeek now, only funkos are the main collectible people want tbh
Don't have so many stores because I remember there being several within miles around here
Start a delivery service, same day delivery from local stores, some people like me are lazy
 

Ssj3gokou24

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Nov 2, 2017
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User banned (3 days): Inflammatory commentary.
If you want answers on how to save GameStop then, you probably enjoy getting pegged too. They need to die! Expeditiously!!!
 

PancakeFlip

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This is why I hope they survive. Digital distribution is the end for me.

This actually might be true for most people despite what people here constantly claim, though anecdotal I was in line at a gamestop and overheard a textbook casual saying that the PS4 would be his last console if things kept trending towards digital and GAS, most people around him didn't sound enthused at the mention of it either. If the casual finds out they don't have a choice, I'd be willing to be most would jump ship.
 

abellwillring

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I posted awhile ago that I think they should buy/merge with Gamefly and work in conjunction with them. They have a big catalog of used games to draw upon although I'll say that Gamefly's copies are usually in great condition whereas it'd be a crapshoot with Gamestop. They could allow people to return rentals to the physical Gamestop locations like you could do with Blockbuster's online rental service while it existed. I don't see many scenarios where they can come back from this without making taking a big risk. They're just not competitive from a price perspective -- I don't think I've bought something from Gamestop in at least a year or two.
 

TheRuralJuror

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have no reason to shop at GameStop when I can just buy the same game for the same price at a big box retailer like Target but without being hassled about pre-ordering shit and buying magazines.
I never understood the fuss personally. They ask about warranties and shit at places like bestbuy too. Worst come to worst, they ask me and I say no and go about my day.

This actually might be true for most people despite what people here constantly claim, though anecdotal I was in line at a gamestop and overheard a textbook casual saying that the PS4 would be his last console if things kept trending towards digital and GAS, most people around him didn't sound enthused at the mention of it either. If the casual finds out they don't have a choice, I'd be willing to be most would jump ship.

I feel similar. Used to be all digital, but then I've seen and read stuff like how my pal lost all his games when he had to do a chargeback after someone bought a bunch of vbucks on psn. I like owning my stuff.
 

saiko

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I went to GameStop one time and the dude was just eating pizza behind the counter.
 

xinoart

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I don't think this is true. Everytime I go to a Gamestop, regardless of location, i see plenty of people coming in and buying stuff.

Not just games. They have a ton of merchandise, it's like 50% of the store. They're approaching "Hot Topic but for Gaming."
Apparently, just by reading this thread, so many people are so deluded about thier opinion. Gamestop isn't going under because of their toys/merch areas getting bigger. If anything, those are keeping them afloat. They own Funko. Funko is literally everywhere. Go to any convention, Walmart, Target, etc. Funkos are sold there, and they usually have collectors editions at different stores. Funko will be around for awhile. Gamestop is in a slow change (glacial apparently). Do you honestly think they don't have ties to other ventures as well? Funko is just the one that is easily recognizable.

If Gamestop closes any stores, it will most likely be in major cities. Small towns across America rely on Gamestop.Without them, many games people in here crave will die forever. Le3ss customers to see your cover/poster in a store = sell less copies. Whether people want to admit it or not, not everyone buys video games because some forum said so or some 'net pub stomper said so.