Good points. And when compared with all the great action and stealth games set in feudal Japan, including upcoming games like Nioh 2 and GOT, an AC: Sengoku couldn't help but be disappointing.
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Is Assassin's Creed in a feudal Japan setting the most ignored customer desire by a game company?
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Good points. And when compared with all the great action and stealth games set in feudal Japan, including upcoming games like Nioh 2 and GOT, an AC: Sengoku couldn't help but be disappointing.
I used to see this a lot, but rarely see it asked for these days. I think feudal Japan is a good setting that feels played out, but that could just be me watching so much movies and anime, and playing games set there. Even so, I'd love to see the AC teams flesh out and create a large world set in Japan. Personally, I'd rather see China if they go East. Romance of the three kingdoms aside, you don't really see much games set in other eras.
I didn't like the rumors of a Vikings AC game at first, but after watching Vinland saga and starting the last kingdom, I'm starting to really warm up to a Vikings AC game.
I didn't like the rumors of a Vikings AC game at first, but after watching Vinland saga and starting the last kingdom, I'm starting to really warm up to a Vikings AC game.
It's not some unrepresented setting. going ancient world is a much more refreshing take. The open combat also lended itself to the RPG/builds that the series has transitioned to.
I imagine if they do ever go Japan or China, they would plan their own trilogy for it to help justify and spread out the costs of creating all new assets for everything on top of new gameplay systems since navel combat and the current weapon system wouldn't work at all with the period.
Because people would expect ninjas, that would also mean actually building some stealth mechanics with depth which takes time and effort. They can't just make splinter cell with swords.
Considering how big Ubisoft is, and how long the current ancient world story arc has been in the planning stages and is finally wrapping up, that some team has prototyped the heck out of the ninja stalth concept.
I imagine if they do ever go Japan or China, they would plan their own trilogy for it to help justify and spread out the costs of creating all new assets for everything on top of new gameplay systems since navel combat and the current weapon system wouldn't work at all with the period.
Because people would expect ninjas, that would also mean actually building some stealth mechanics with depth which takes time and effort. They can't just make splinter cell with swords.
Considering how big Ubisoft is, and how long the current ancient world story arc has been in the planning stages and is finally wrapping up, that some team has prototyped the heck out of the ninja stalth concept.
Yep, this has always been my thought too. They're saving it for when people start to tire of AC.
Ubisoft knows they will never be able to do feudal Japan the justice it deserves, so they will never attempt it. It's why I'm so excited to see Ghosts of Tsushima. Haven't had a "realistic" game in that setting in quite many years.
Probably not that extreme... but I definitely agree that an AC game in old Japan would be insane! But let's first see how they will do with the Norwegian mythology. I'm curious how they will manage that, especially compared to the excellent God of War :)
This is getting kind of silly now. I'm not saying Japan is unique or underused. It isn't, but neither is ancient egypt, especially in western entertainment.
I've even said in the same comment that you posted and elsewhere in the thread that other settings would be more than welcome, so the past part of your reply is kinda redundant. None of these settings are unique in entertainment, broadly speaking.
You play a game set in ancient egypt, you already have a load of preconceived notions about what will be in it. Why? Because it's a setting that is prolific throughout literature, entertainment and western education systems. Same with ancient greece. What's cool, however, is that Assassin's Creed takes their unique take on historical settings in AAA open world videogames, and in the context of AC as a franchise, feudal Japan would be radically different to previous games.
Anyways, I digress. I'm not particularly fussed either way. I'd rather than Ancient China if anything, just taking issue with people in this thread acting like Assassin's Creed regularly chooses settings rarely explored in popular entertainment. It doesn't.
I mean, there's a lot more to feudal Japan than ninjas. It seems to me that the comments here like your's are a symptom of people not knowing nothing about that time period beyond what they've seen in anime, manga and videogames. There are a hell of a lot of interesting conflict etc. going on around that time.
I think that's what makes Ghost of Tsushima so interesting. It isn't Sengoku era. Let's not act like Japan's culture and history starts and stops in the 1500-1600's.
Actually, come to think of it - an AC game set somewhere in the world during the Mongol conquests would be pretty fucking dope...
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The AC comics actually feature Hong Kong as a setting. The story arc features a jazz playing, former Harlem Hellfighter turned Templar super agent named the Black Cross. The AC comics are pretty decent.
It's still fascinating that Nintendo, of all people, actually caved to the "open world Zelda" wishes a lot of people wanted back in the day (especially after Skyrim)
I'd honestly rather they go to some other Asian country we hardly see, like Korea. More than anything else I want the games to move away from the RPG direction they've been heading. I'm probably one of the very few people who miss the old Assassin's Creed formula and prefer it over the current one. Especially the multiplayer pre-Unity.
But to answer the OP's question, probably not. There are definitely remasters, remakes, and sequels in higher demand.
But to answer the OP's question, probably not. There are definitely remasters, remakes, and sequels in higher demand.
Mass Effect Trilogy Remake/Remaster is the easiest and biggest one.
The next setting is Viking, that is not a rumor. (Jason confirmed it and he has never been wrong about Assassin's Creed stuff) Any other information is just rumors though.
Haven't Japan and Egypt been two of the most teased settings since the beginning? We got Egypt so I wouldn't be surprised if Japan wasn't coming.
I was bummed out when they used the Chinese character from the animated Ezio thing in one of those sidescrolling games. That would've made a cool main entry.
I was bummed out when they used the Chinese character from the animated Ezio thing in one of those sidescrolling games. That would've made a cool main entry.
That's not exactly an under-represented time period in media. I say do cavemen. It worked for Far Cry.
I don't know why people keep bringing up media, they never said anything about all media.
Okay, then video games specifically if you're going to split goddamn hairs. There is no shortage of games that revolve around vikings and Norse beliefs.
We got Ghost of Tsushima coming up so at least someone did it.I
What grounded games are in that setting?
What grounded games are in that setting?
But there are hardly any games set in that era, and most of the games set in it are low budget no name games. God of War barely has anything to do with viking era and what else is there ?
Surely you're not serious? There's Hellblade, Bad North, Viking: Battle for Asgard, Banner Saga... Just off the top of my head I can name at least a dozen. Whether you're talking about video games, movies, comics or what have you, vikings and Norse mythology is one of those things they're all saturated with.
So a bunch of low budget and indie games is all you got? The fact that you list Bad North(which is barely a viking game) and Viking: Battle for Asgard prove my point.
God of War didn't have any viking in it.
WHAT POINT?! If you have to add ridiculous qualifiers like budget, then it's a weak argument to begin with.
God of War isn't a Viking setting. Hell, Hellblade is closer to a Viking setting than God of War.
Sekiro's atmosphere is top notch though, and some of the vistas are so god damn beatiful I just chilled there for minutes on end doing nothing but looking at them
I really don't care one lick about setting games in japan so when people say "everyone wants AC/GTA/Forza in Japan" i just shrug i guess.
I wanted Egypt and Greece far more than anything in the east. Perhaps AC China could be interesting but i still like the idea of vikings better.
I wanted Egypt and Greece far more than anything in the east. Perhaps AC China could be interesting but i still like the idea of vikings better.
The point is that Viking era is not overdone, no name low budget games and as a way to prove how it's overdone.
That guy who originally wrote "What Zelda can learn from Oblivion" article at IGN was eventually proven right.
Just thinking about this, but if someone tried to make a feudal-Japan-themed open-world game in the style of GTA or Red Dead, the ideal setting would probably be Edo period Yakuza -- basically the same settings and Yakuza Kenzan and Ishin. The main touchstones would be Zatoichi and Yojimbo. Edit: And Lady Snowblood.
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