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Is Anyone Else Grated By VII Remake’s Voice Acting?
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What's up with framing "sounding anime" as a bad thing btw? I hear that a lot when it comes to dubs and it just doesn't make sense to me.
Like most games of this genre are literally anime. So them sounding like one seems like the correct choice to make? Like they will never make this sound like a western RPG. Just wouldn't fit. I saw the same complains about XV and that one had a fantastic dub.
Kinda offtopic, I know, just a thought I had.
Like most games of this genre are literally anime. So them sounding like one seems like the correct choice to make? Like they will never make this sound like a western RPG. Just wouldn't fit. I saw the same complains about XV and that one had a fantastic dub.
Kinda offtopic, I know, just a thought I had.
I am reserving judgement until I play the game because I think it is tough with these trailers they have put together.
Except that I can tell you whoever is playing Red XIII killed it.
Except that I can tell you whoever is playing Red XIII killed it.
Aerith is the weak link in the newest trailer but it sounds fine to me overall for what it is. Not Final Fantasy XII or Xenoblade 1 level but whatever.
So you say it won't affect you but you think someone should be fired? That doesn't make any sense and is kinda hyperbole.
I'll repeat what I said in the trailer thread:
It sounds quite awful. I was cringing the whole time. Unnatural, lifeless, and robotic voice acting. And it's not just the voice actors and how they deliver the script. The script itself sounds pretty awful. They're working with what they've got, and what they've got is a mess.
The script sounds so unnatural and so... translated. People simply don't talk like that. No native Engish speaker in their right mind would ever say such things to express whatever is happening. Stuff like: "The stench of the director's cowardice fills the room yet again". I mean really now? Really!? It's an English phrase alright, one you might find in a book, an old one presumably, but no one actually ever speaks like that. Ever.
It sounds quite awful. I was cringing the whole time. Unnatural, lifeless, and robotic voice acting. And it's not just the voice actors and how they deliver the script. The script itself sounds pretty awful. They're working with what they've got, and what they've got is a mess.
The script sounds so unnatural and so... translated. People simply don't talk like that. No native Engish speaker in their right mind would ever say such things to express whatever is happening. Stuff like: "The stench of the director's cowardice fills the room yet again". I mean really now? Really!? It's an English phrase alright, one you might find in a book, an old one presumably, but no one actually ever speaks like that. Ever.
The English voice acting in the last trailer was really bad, yes. It just didn't fit.
I watched it in Japanese and it helped but I'll say that it reminded me most of some Japanese TV I've seen, which isn't much, but something like recent Kamen Rider shows where the stories are serious but everyone's kinda campy. Maybe that could work, but dubbing something like Kamen rider in English would never work for me and that's what I'm feeling is happening here if that makes any sense.
I watched it in Japanese and it helped but I'll say that it reminded me most of some Japanese TV I've seen, which isn't much, but something like recent Kamen Rider shows where the stories are serious but everyone's kinda campy. Maybe that could work, but dubbing something like Kamen rider in English would never work for me and that's what I'm feeling is happening here if that makes any sense.
DQXI had superb VA? It was okay but nothing to celebrate lol. That said, I think the issue with FFVII's VA is more the writing than anything. Dialogue just does not sound natural to me.
Ha!
He sounds just like my old art professor during our portfolio review. We would all have to present our work for the instructors and class to go over and he was a very... verbose... man.
"This eyesore taints the rest of your work and I'm nauseated you included it."
"What banality is this? Are you truly proud of this inclusion? What a waste of our instructions and your talents."
"Congratulations. You've invented a new form of ass."
"Remove this from your portfolio. It's rubbish that infects the eyes of everyone in the room who has seen it. It is anti-inspirational."
People totally do talk like this.
I'd have to watch it again. I do recall thinking that some of the Shinra people's voices sounding a bit off in this recent trailer, but nothing too crazy. Like others have said I'm gonna chalk it up to the mixing for the trailer for now.
It at least sounds better than FFXV and KH3. I doubt anyone from the game's getting nominated for any acting awards.
It's shorthand for over-acted, overwrought, overly cartoonish, and generally unconvincing. I don't think anyone is expecting a Naughty Dog performance (although that would be sick) because those simply aren't recorded in the same way. But in a story where any of the events are expected to be taken seriously, people generally want characters that sound and act close to actual human beings. There are some fantastic dubs out there (Bebop and GitS come to mind) that still have "anime" hallmarks, but this is not one of them.
That being said, the Japanese track sounds equally schlocky so I don't think it's (just) the actors. Game just may not have the overall tone people are expecting.
Final Fantasy VII is my favorite game of all time and has been since I played it for the first time in 1997. I have no need for hyperbole when talking about the greatest game ever made. Now, this is a REMAKE of the greatest game ever made, and it is yet to be determined how close this remake will come to claiming that title, but everything looks amazing, done with care and top notch, EXCEPT the one area where they dropped the ball, the English voice acting. So yes, you absolutely can not have a 10 everywhere else and have the person responsible for voice casting deliver you a 2 at best. This thing sounds like an episode of Scooby Doo or He-Man.
And no, it won't affect me because I will be playing in Japanese. But let's not act like I won't be making multiple runs through this game, I'd like to do my second run in English, but I don't think I can with what I'm hearing. I played the Witcher 3 in English and it has amazing English voice acting, I don't think it's asking too much of Square in 2020 to have something on that level of quality for their flagship title, or - at the very least - something not on the level of quality as a Saturday morning cartoon show.
Barrett is not good, but the rest is fine.
I wish they wouldn't make one of the few black characters I have in RPGs sound like that.
I would've done it for free lifetime access to your games, SE. Sheesh.
I wish they wouldn't make one of the few black characters I have in RPGs sound like that.
I would've done it for free lifetime access to your games, SE. Sheesh.
Yes. It sounds like it's managed out of whatever hole XV was managed out of. A lot of voices that sound like they never heard english people on the street.
Yo, what up, wizzle! What's bitching motherfucker? and stuff. Real people talk like that but FF characters do not.
Yo, what up, wizzle! What's bitching motherfucker? and stuff. Real people talk like that but FF characters do not.
When I hear Barrett, his voice reminds me of the Lethal Weapon movies in It's Always Sunny when they're imitating Murtaugh.
its better than most Voice acting for anime like games/jrpgs nowadays. Hell I can remember a time when people loved valkyrie profile's dub. and that is literally 4kids dub cast the game.(just like berserk lol)
This is some of the best voice acting I have heard in a Square game!
Gives me 90s Saturday morning anime vibes in a good way.
FF7 is at its worst trying to be too serious. Playing into the campiness is making this game for me! Wouldn't have it any other way!
Also best Cloud ever.
Gives me 90s Saturday morning anime vibes in a good way.
FF7 is at its worst trying to be too serious. Playing into the campiness is making this game for me! Wouldn't have it any other way!
Also best Cloud ever.
I personally love what I've heard so far, it sounds like they're going full cheese/anime and that's the right decision.
Say it louder so the people in the back can hear you.
Say it louder so the people in the back can hear you.
The VA sound fine, just watch a few minutes of the demo footage. And the dialogues are good too.
Yeah, sounds pretty bad to me. I agree, compared to the likes of DQXI, it's pretty unexceptional.
Barrett is laughably bad.
Barrett is laughably bad.
Sounds terribleWe've seen too much footage to use the excuse of it being "out of context".
It's not the actors, it's the voice directing that has everyone doing their 4Kids impression (save Red 13). Even for the crazy story they are retelling, it's way too exaggerated.
in game banter seems fine for now though.
It's not the actors, it's the voice directing that has everyone doing their 4Kids impression (save Red 13). Even for the crazy story they are retelling, it's way too exaggerated.
in game banter seems fine for now though.
I think you're confusing "convincing" with "realistic." The point of acting (especially in more fantastic settings) is to make characters believable to the audience, no matter how outlandish.
That being said, yeah, there's some significant hyperbole going on here.
I do not know what the hell going on with him. Like, I can't tell what they were trying to hit there.
To all the people who have doubts about the voice acting in the last trailer of FF7R, I invite you to watch the demo leaked last month to clear your doubts.
I think this bad perception is due to the bad edition between image and audio of the trailers.
Yeah sounds a bit off. But I will just play it in Japanese and don't recognize bad voice acting :D