Not unless he's gay.Wonder if they're going to execute the person that pulled the trigger?
Not unless he's gay.Wonder if they're going to execute the person that pulled the trigger?
Who is shifting blame away from Iran?It's scary how y'all will shift some blame away from Iran on this as if they aren't the ones who did it.
*Iran shoots down plane on accident*I just don't get it. It's not like the Iranian government deserves any of the aggressive defense it has been receiving.
Who is shifting blame away from Iran?
It's scary how some people shift blame away from Trump when he unnecessarily and illegally carried out an assassination that led to this string of disastrous events.
And he is being blamed for that assassination. Is Iran being blamed for it for their participation in the events that eventually led to his death? No. It's not like the United States decided to one day kill this guy, there was a chain of events as well. Stop blaming the chain for these specific events.Who is shifting blame away from Iran?
It's scary how some people shift blame away from Trump when he unnecessarily and illegally carried out an assassination that led to this string of disastrous events.
Or you could blame Iran for orchestrating an attack on our embassy and murdering a US civilian.Who is shifting blame away from Iran?
It's scary how some people shift blame away from Trump when he unnecessarily and illegally carried out an assassination that led to this string of disastrous events.
The President of Iran:
Hassan Rouhani @HassanRouhani
Armed Forces' internal investigation has concluded that regrettably missiles fired due to human error caused the horrific crash of the Ukrainian plane & death of 176 innocent people.
Investigations continue to identify & prosecute this great tragedy & unforgivable mistake. #PS752
11:40 PM - Jan 10, 2020
Hassan Rouhani @HassanRouhani
The Islamic Republic of Iran deeply regrets this disastrous mistake.
My thoughts and prayers go to all the mourning families. I offer my sincerest condolences. https://twitter.com/HassanRouhani/status/1215856039997984768 …
11:43 PM - Jan 10, 2020
That string of events did not start with the assassination.And all I'm saying is that Trump's actions and escalation by carrying out a strike (under false pretenses) on Suleimani created a string of events that led to this happening.
The US will send a drone anyways.Wonder if they're going to execute the person that pulled the trigger?
That's just the nature of technological progress. It used to be radio, then TV, now it's social media.It is crazy how Twitter has become the major platform for nation leaders to send this kind of information.
That's kind of where my opinion is at.Or admitting they fucked up instead of doubling and thrilling down on lies.
There's no "the main culpability lies with Iran, it's not equal, but the US's blame in what happened is by no means small" option.
Is there a way to add a moderator to the ignore list?This plane was shot down because of a monumental and unprecedented failure of Iran's government and military. No one else picked the time of their military action, the method, ran their air control system, fired this missile, etc.
This is on them.
And he is being blamed for that assassination. Is Iran being blamed for it for their participation in the events that eventually led to his death? No. It's not like the United States decided to one day kill this guy, there was a chain of events as well. Stop blaming the chain for these specific events.
As a Canadian, this is a bad take and it's all Iran's fault, and I also don't know what the hell being a Canadian has anything to do with this matterAs a Canadian, this gets a big nope from me. America has blood of these passengers on its hands too.
Why because you don't agree with them? It's not like he's being a total ass. I don't know how you're able to function in the real world if his replies require and ignore.
I am pretty shocked Iran admitted this. They did everything to try and clumsily cover it up and look mega-guilty in the process. I would have just kept denying it if I were them.
In less than what, two days, this whole story turned from "America assassinated a general on foreign soil" to "Iranians shoot down a civilian airliner and tried to cover it up". Iran could not have handled this any worse.
If people are assigning blame, I think the airline deserves some as well.
Flying out of a potential warzone has risks which unfortunately manifested.
An airspace closure in Pakistan and parts of Northern India disrupted flight schedules, forcing airlines to cancel or divert some flights, after the south Asian nations engaged in fighter-jet combat in an escalating security situation.
I think it's more that there's so much news and craziness happening so fast that every day feels like weeks ago.I feel like it was a few days late. Perhaps it only felt like that because some in the government were initially skeptical of believing US reports outright which made it worse when Canada corroborated the statements. Nobody should have said anything beyond they were investigating
If one of our soldiers kills a non-combatant in cold blood, we hold them responsible. We realize that the military and war can break people down psychologically, but we also realize that at some point most responsibility lies with the person who pulled the trigger. They had a duty to be sure of their target, it's a total failure of whatever system they have in place to determine that, and they failed with such magnitude they targeted a plane that took off from their own airport. I do think Trump shares culpability for destabilizing things to the degree they were that day, a week earlier and this likely would not have happened, but I think that it was able to happen at all points to a huge degree of irresponsibility on their part giving them the lions share of the blame.
With Isaac and Ishmael.
If President Fuck Knuckle of the United States didn't assasinate a foreign military leader to bribe the politicians of the United States so he doesn't get impeached, none of this shit would have happened. So no no one should "fucking stop with this" and it's not 100% on Iran.
There's a time to discuss the events of escalation in the region, but this is a country shooting down a passenger plane leaving their capital's airport. No one is forbidding the discussions of America's imperialism in the region, but that's not about this. This is about Iran shooting down a passenger plane. Blaming Iran doesn't remove or ignore the actions of the United States, but going, "Trump has blood on his hands" does shed some blame from Iran which is 100% wrong and no one should be doing that.Problem is the chain will always end at American imperialism when it comes to pretty much half of the fucked up geopolitical conflicts in the world today.
Even Iran in 2020 is effectively America's creation from overthrowing their legally elected president in the 50's.
My beef is that its easy to pop in here and say, Iran sucks. Lets have 300 replies saying the same thing. i mean duh, they killed 200 people on a fucking airplane. Even the 'defenders' here hate them
But to say we just need to focus on today's events, or the vague 'there were incidents before trump', ensures shit like this will happen again. Because even if Iran didn't shoot down that airplane, civilian death was already in the cards with the recent attacks
Which is why I didn't normally jump to the conclusion it was a middle strike, it would be so idiotic to be firing at airplanes leaving your own airport. Well they are that incompetent apparently.This is 100% on Iran. I don't get how some of you blame the Trump admin on this.
I mean, how the hell can you not identify that the origin of the plane you are shooting is from your own airport?
When Soleimani brings in Iraqis to kill his own people, it's both.While I'm not underestimating the act itself, there's a difference between a domestic and an international incident.
This makes no sense. He was already impeached.If President Fuck Knuckle of the United States didn't assasinate a foreign military leader to bribe the politicians of the United States so he doesn't get impeached, none of this shit would have happened. So no no one should "fucking stop with this" and it's not 100% on Iran.
It doesn't seem like it.Thank you. Fuck outta here with that. He cannot be disassociated from this hot mess. Everyone knows why tensions were so high here. Everybody.
The analogy you're looking for is that an arsonist sets a night club on fire. As people attempt to flee the burning club, the staff block a fire exit and get a bunch of people killed.
Do you absolve the arsonist of all wrongdoing in that case? Of course not, but you obviously don't ignore that people in charge of things are supposed to be trained to not make stupid decisions under panic.
I think that's his point.
As a Canadian, this is a bad take and it's all Iran's fault, and I also don't know what the hell being a Canadian has anything to do with this matter
Reminder: they shot a civilian plane leaving their own airport
Nah you don't get to erase involvement from America that constantly escalated tensions with Iran for little to no reason.There's a time to discuss the events of escalation in the region, but this is a country shooting down a passenger plane leaving their capital's airport. No one is forbidding the discussions of America's imperialism in the region, but that's not about this. This is about Iran shooting down a passenger plane. Blaming Iran doesn't remove or ignore the actions of the United States, but going, "Trump has blood on his hands" does shed some blame from Iran which is 100% wrong and no one should be doing that.
Stop painting Iran as a bystander in all this. They are not innocent in this conflict.Nah you don't get to erase involvement from America that constantly escalated tensions with Iran for little to no reason.
No way. A 'better' version would be if rather than simply blocking people from leaving the staff got spooked and shot everybody...