Yep, that's IED crafting 101. Just missing scrap and nails as the payload.
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Iowa woman dies during a gender reveal party.
- Thread starter mreddie
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People are really suggesting having gender reveal parties without explosives? Does anyone know what the point of gender reveal parties are? You can't have a party without EXPLOSIONS
To die going to a reveal party for something that may not even be accurate, I hope "gender" reveal ceremonies are eventually forgotten about. Sad and distasteful all around.
Gender is in quotations because all they're doing is revealing the sex.
It's making the assumption that a child's sex assigned at birth is its gender, when it's not. This reinforces cisnormative binary gender roles that cause real lasting damage to trans/nonbinary folx. In the latter case, it erases their gender identity as a possibility entirely.
Growing up coded as the gender you aren't, like I did, can really fuck you up. I attempted suicide several times because of how heavily gender norms predicated on being assigned the wrong gender at birth led to confusion, despair and isolation.
The assumption that parents know a child's gender before they do is incorrect and harmful.
As far as I know, none of my friends or family has ever had a gender reveal party. Those who I've talked to about it also seem to think it's generally a pointless exercise of self-absorption, but we're admittedly a somewhat cynical bunch.
My thoughts generally align with the second part of your post - I don't really care what sex a person's baby is going to be. There is only one person's baby I'd even be interested in knowing that (my sister), but even then I don't care either way. A niece or nephew would be awesome.
But hey, if a friend or family member wants to throw a fun party and use gender reveal as an excuse, I'm down with that as long as there is free alcohol and I'm not obligated to bring any gifts (other than bringing something customary to show appreciate to the host).
They're inherently transphobic as they leave no room for the child to be trans or non binary. It's making assumptions that shouldn't be made about a child that isn't even born yet. Whether that's just the gender or all the other blue/pink and beyond bullshit that people go overboard with.
Will everyone participating in them be knowledgeable of this or actively transphobic? Of course not. That doesn't change the fact that it perpetuates the harm it does and makes assigning gender even before birth a custom practice that people then need to break from. It's emblematic of a focus around predefined gender and associated norms that shouldn't be there.
This is the part of the article where we learn they were white.
Hate something, even if it means nothing.
I feel the same way. Every gender reveal party I've been to is just an excuse for friends and family to get together with drinks or BBQ and then they just reveal the gender and everyone hugs each other and congratulates the couple and shit. We got an 8 page thread here and most of the discussion is just shitting on the idea of having celebration events as opposed to the stupidity of the person responsible for the explosion. Why go to weddings or birthday parties too?
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Are you going to address the several points made by trans people in this thread? Or just drive by and nod at the "none of my cis aunts and uncles on facebook dislike these parties" post?
Not really the case. No need to misrepresent and mock an issue just because you've not come across it before, it is a widely covered and discussed topic that's not bound to the forum.
Yeah I've only heard of this in the last few years, I think it's a relatively new phenomenon.
The latter, there's no need for makeshift pipe bombs at parties. The wider discussion in the thread has included criticisms around the transphobic nature of traditional gender reveal parties though.
It's not a Murican party if there aren't no guns and explosives
Holy shit, I can only imagine her head was just a mix of bone, hair and blood. There's no way a human body pet is going to survive intact with that much kinetic energy.
Mhmm.
If treating your kids like the sex they were born as is a bad thing, couldn't we take it a step further and even say that it's bad to name the child before they grow into their identity? Unless you wanna limit yourself to only gender-neutral names or something.
I don't see the problem in treating your male baby like a boy or treating your female baby like a girl. As long as you're supportive should the baby grow into a different identity, what's the harm? They're babies.
What is treating a baby as a boy or treating a baby as a girl? Pink frilly things for one and blue stripes for the other?
That's also one almighty "as long as" when you're talking about people specifically making a large celebration about a child's assumed gender before they're born, based on their sex. You're also putting the onus on the child to break out of things that shouldn't be set, as in your scenario they should live under the norms until they say otherwise. Assuming they have the easy freedom to explore their gender when growing up outlined by gender norms from before they were born.
Whats the harm?
Ahh, i think that's a difference in language. A weird one imo. I did not mean that there shouldn't be a celebration for anything. I meant that not everything needs a spectacular event.
Basically, yeah. I just mean little things like that.
It seems like the articles you posted are on about the big stereotypes like "boys shouldn't cry" etc, which are obviously bad and shouldn't be enforced by any parent.
But in the case of little things like the color of the baby's blanket or their first toy, is it actually so harmful to get a daughter a pink blanket and a son a toy firetruck?
The constant criticisms toward "heteronormative colors" were always something I found confusing, should we not allow the colors pink and blue to be used at all in regards to children's merchandise? Do we raise every child in grey clothes and grey rooms until they discover their identity?
I'm being genuine, if assuming a baby's gender is a harmful thing, then how do we raise kids? I find it hard to imagine a way to remain 100% gender neutral in regards to raising someone. Because everything is connected to gender in some way shape or form, for better or worse.
Which I guess usually leads into the even bigger topic of "abolish gender it serves no purpose" but that's an even bigger hurdle.
Reminds me of the girl that shot her boyfriend with a desert eagle for a youtube video, killing him.
"Parents that throw a gender reveal party but only intend to apply the most minor and subtle gender norms so as to not influence their child and will listen to and support whatever they are" isn't what we're discussing though. We're discussing the issues with the concept of a traditional gender reveal party as it's inherently transphobic and furthers the misconception that gender=sex while also giving ground to applying harmful gender norms from even before birth.
I'm not 100% what you are trying to say, not sure how you really can treat them
Any differently at that stage?
Things like the colors of their clothes and the toys you buy them.
Define treating a kid like a boy or a girl because it sound like it mean shoving gender stereotypes.
This really depends on what you mean by treating them like a boy or like a girl. If you just mean color clothing, then sure not a lot of harm there. But phrases like "boys will be boys" are still very popular and emblematic of the very negative differences in how we treat children of different genders. Girls can be emotional and should be frilly and clean and nice. Boys get excused for being more violent and are allowed to be dirty and rough. Boys shouldn't cry and are taught to bottle things up. Girls are given more empathetic activities and toys like dolls and boys are given cars and stuff.
There's nothing wrong with some of these, but as they pile up they can do dangerous things with behavior, psychology, and emotion.
I mean, I am. What colors are fair game if it's harmful to shower a baby girl in pink?
