I said published. Both games are published by 3D Realms.Yeah, the person who replied to my post about Wrath was wrong. It's developed by KillPixel.
I said published. Both games are published by 3D Realms.Yeah, the person who replied to my post about Wrath was wrong. It's developed by KillPixel.
3D Realms has nothing to do with this situation, though. This is all on the individual developer.
Meant dog whistle in the sense he's exaggerating something that more modern parents(like you, like you said in your post)do, which is not enforce any gender view "girls wear pink, boys blue", to a degree of ridiculousness, to rile people up to a problem that doesn't exist. no parent, or an insane small number, actually does this, to even be a thing to be considered and feared.How is making an fake argument against dumb parenting decisions transphobic? Also, I've googled dog whistle and the meaning I've come across doesn't make sense in your post.
Again, had to look up "strawman" and I don't see how it partains in this instance. Maybe it does but I'm not seeing how his comment came about so I'm not sure how you can call it "strawman"
Again, don't see how saying parents are mentally ill for thinking about a newborns gender transphobic. He hasn't said anything negative about trans people from what I've seen in the OP.
It definitely not surprising. Apparently the Brutal Doom guy is also a complete scum suckerWell, shit, that sucks.
Maybe this is unfair, but I can't say I'm completely surprised that someone making a 90s throwback game with this particular tone wound up being this kind of jagoff.
Can you imagine lurking ResetEra just to get mad at it? Talk about wanting to hate fuck somethingMan for these bozos who act like ResetEra is too crazy and that Era should mellow out and be "chill like them", they sure have a very strange obsession with everything that ResetEra does.
It's a straw-man because there's no parents doing such a thing. It's being outraged about somethign that doesn't exist in order to spread fear and misinformation around trans people.How is making an fake argument against dumb parenting decisions transphobic? Also, I've googled dog whistle and the meaning I've come across doesn't make sense in your post.
Again, had to look up "strawman" and I don't see how it partains in this instance. Maybe it does but I'm not seeing how his comment came about so I'm not sure how you can call it "strawman"
Again, don't see how saying parents are mentally ill for thinking about a newborns gender transphobic. He hasn't said anything negative about trans people from what I've seen in the OP.
It's not really exclusive to the right, Reddit for example has r/forwardsfromhitler, r/gendercynical, r/thebluepill, etc. that are geared towards finding heinous shit people post on the internet.Can you imagine lurking ResetEra just to get mad at it? Talk about wanting to hate fuck something
I think beyond a research/keeping tabs method of things of dangerous people and ideas, it's an unhealthy thing to do.It's not really exclusive to the right, Reddit for example has r/forwardsfromhitler, r/gendercynical, r/thebluepill, etc. that are geared towards finding heinous shit people post on the internet.
What would you expect 3DR to do here?Here's another one.
Was hyped, was going to buy now fuck this game and this dev and 3DR for barely doing anything about it.
My dollars will go towards Remnant!
"It was taken out of context and shame on you for witch hunting!"
Can someone tell me in what possible way someone saying "SJW" in a derogatory way and for talking about Transphobia badly could be taken "out of context" positively??
There's literally no reason to use those words in a good way when mocking them. I cannot believe some people are saying that we have taken their words out of context so that they can defend them.
It's a straw-man because there's no parents doing such a thing. It's being outraged about somethign that doesn't exist in order to spread fear and misinformation around trans people.
It's the literal definition of transphobia, fear and paranoia around people's gender identities to the extent of spreading outright lies.
Good question but at least here I know before I make my purchase. I can't support it knowing what I know. Also who knows that 3dr could do but something surelyWhat would you expect 3DR to do here?
And how do you know that none of the Remnant devs never said anything shitty? Or a game is good up until the point you learn that someone on the dev team is not a saint?
Why is he even going on about some complete bullshit hypothetical about imaginary parents in the first place? What purpose does it serve?[
I get zero sense of "outrage" from his comment.
He simply said if you do this your mentally ill. I don't even think that's spreading misinformation. It's simply an opinion of his regardless of it being rooted in reality or not.
Not sure how anyone could read that comment and think "oh man, why is everyone acting like this with their newborns"
I understand this stuff is highly sensitive. But because of that I think people will take off the cuff opinions way more seriously than they need to be taken.
The whole dev team does not deserve to be tossed under the bus due to some comments made by a couple of devs. Ones I'm not even sure are as severe as I'm led to believe from the majority of the comments made in this thread.
Call them out specifically, get the higher ups to reprimand this guy, fire him, what ever. But stop trying to shit all over this game and everyone that had a hand at making it.
It's PATHETIC.
3DR are gonna ignore it unless they are forced to address it by a huge public outcry.Good question but at least here I know before I make my purchase. I can't support it knowing what I know. Also who knows that 3dr could do but something surely
Parents also decide their children are straight (my personal case) or cis , but i dont see them saying its "mentally ill". Why don't they say that too?Again, don't see how saying parents are mentally ill for thinking about a newborns gender transphobic. He hasn't said anything negative about trans people from what I've seen in the OP.
Reading the quotes and seeing "yeah if you're trying to decide your child is trans at birth you have mental problems and probably shouldn't be a parent imo"
Is this actually something parents do? Am I misunderstanding something? Or did he just say something stupid and untrue?
The latter. But remember it's "not transphobic" and "out of context", can't wait for "it was a thought experiment" and "just asking questions" tooReading the quotes and seeing "yeah if you're trying to decide your child is trans at birth you have mental problems and probably shouldn't be a parent imo"
Is this actually something parents do? Am I misunderstanding something? Or did he just say something stupid and untrue?
It's just them being dumb and reacting to a nonexistent problem because they don't really know what trans people are like and don't care to learn. It's an old talking point that probably has to do with stuff like parents avoiding gendered clothes or whatever for young children so as to not pressure them to confine to standard gender roles.Reading the quotes and seeing "yeah if you're trying to decide your child is trans at birth you have mental problems and probably shouldn't be a parent imo"
Is this actually something parents do? Am I misunderstanding something? Or did he just say something stupid and untrue?
What he does know is that the Ion Fury devs are not only shitty but were stupid enough to make their views known on a public forum. The fact that someone else may hold shitty views doesn't change that.What would you expect 3DR to do here?
And how do you know that none of the Remnant devs never said anything shitty? Or a game is good up until the point you learn that someone on the dev team is not a saint?
Wow, it's like you looked at the discussion, the multiple attempts that were made to clearly explain the issue to you and decided to come out swinging with another strawman about how people are ganging up on the devs. This is truly PATHETIC behavior on your part.[
I get zero sense of "outrage" from his comment.
He simply said if you do this your mentally ill. I don't even think that's spreading misinformation. It's simply an opinion of his regardless of it being rooted in reality or not.
Not sure how anyone could read that comment and think "oh man, why is everyone acting like this with their newborns"
I understand this stuff is highly sensitive. But because of that I think people will take off the cuff opinions way more seriously than they need to be taken.
The whole dev team does not deserve to be tossed under the bus due to some comments made by a couple of devs. Ones I'm not even sure are as severe as I'm led to believe from the majority of the comments made in this thread.
Call them out specifically, get the higher ups to reprimand this guy, fire him, what ever. But stop trying to shit all over this game and everyone that had a hand at making it.
It's PATHETIC.
I agree. I used the example of 4chan and r/thedonald earlier, both communities I do not like but I don't make a habit of lurking them to get mad about what they post. It's not a productive use of my time.I think beyond a research/keeping tabs method of things of dangerous people and ideas, it's an unhealthy thing to do.
it's a strawman that's associates "transgender" with "mental illness" by using an invented hyperbolic hypothetical.
The latter. But remember it's "not transphobic" and "out of context", can't wait for "it was a thought experiment" and "just asking questions" too
Got it. ThanksIt's just them being dumb and reacting to a nonexistent problem because they don't really know what trans people are like and don't care to learn. It's an old talking point that probably has to do with stuff like parents avoiding gendered clothes or whatever for young children so as to not pressure them to confine to standard gender roles.
I get zero sense of "outrage" from his comment.
He simply said if you do this your mentally ill. I don't even think that's spreading misinformation. It's simply an opinion of his regardless of it being rooted in reality or not.
Not sure how anyone could read that comment and think "oh man, why is everyone acting like this with their newborns"
The whole dev team does not deserve to be tossed under the bus due to some comments made by a couple of devs. Ones I'm not even sure are as severe as I'm led to believe from the majority of the comments made in this thread.
Call them out specifically, get the higher ups to reprimand this guy, fire him, what ever. But stop trying to shit all over this game and everyone that had a hand at making it.
It's PATHETIC.
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I get zero sense of "outrage" from his comment.
He simply said if you do this your mentally ill. I don't even think that's spreading misinformation. It's simply an opinion of his regardless of it being rooted in reality or not.
Not sure how anyone could read that comment and think "oh man, why is everyone acting like this with their newborns"
I understand this stuff is highly sensitive. But because of that I think people will take off the cuff opinions way more seriously than they need to be taken.
The whole dev team does not deserve to be tossed under the bus due to some comments made by a couple of devs. Ones I'm not even sure are as severe as I'm led to believe from the majority of the comments made in this thread.
Call them out specifically, get the higher ups to reprimand this guy, fire him, what ever. But stop trying to shit all over this game and everyone that had a hand at making it.
It's PATHETIC.
Parents also decide their children are straight (my personal case) or cis , but i dont see them saying its "mentally ill". Why don't they say that too?
The whole "It's unfair to the other devs to not buy the game over this" argument is fucking stupid.
There are plenty of great games out there with wonderful people working on them. Most of them do not have people on the dev team stupid enough to act like a bottom-dwelling shitheel in public.
I'm so tired of shitty ass straight men in this industry and community. Trash.
Weird that "but what about the person that did these graphics or composed that music or etc., why are you punishing them??" never comes up for the trillion other reasons people make purchasing decisions, hey. Like, nobody ever says "why are you punishing Jenny in admin because the gunplay feels bad?" or "Why does Jimmy the janitor have to suffer because you don't like a game's monetisation model?" or "so the developers don't deserve to eat because you have no interest in that genre?", it's only when devs turn out to be bigots that they trot that out.
Jeez. I wonder if it's just some "bad apples" like in the Subnautica devs.
This is where I'm at. I'm still gonna buy the game, but I definitely respect that people don't want to now, as what the devs said is inexcusable and shitty. Truly reprehensible stuff.If this doesn't bother you enough to not buy it, that's ok. What's not cool is telling people they're wrong for not buying it because they're rightfully mad.
Respect people's right to not support shitty people.