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Ion Fury devs show signs of transphobia among other issues. [Update: Voidpoint apologizes in statement, see threadmarks]
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If you start empathizing with a bunch of transphobic asshole because someone called you out on your purchasing decisions then yeah you're trash.
Exactly what I was thinking... pretty disappointing to see this as the game itself looks really fun.
If any of the Ion Fury devs are reading this topic, then please, learn from this. Not how to "hide better" but to think about what youre actually saying. Detach yourself emotionally from preemptive hate and take some time to really think about how your mindset, behaviour and even jokes relate to and effect other people, and yourself. Take some time to reflect without anger on how this kind of behaviour effects the world around you. People here are upset, but dont just react with anger in kind, think about why that is and dont settle for the easy answer, really try to get to the core of it. Please, just take some of your time to actually think seriously about this, its all Im asking.
happened once in a SVU episode about twins but for a different reason, the parents wanted to solve a minor genital issue their son had and forced him into transitioning without telling him his original gender.Otherwise I don't know any examples.The kid ends up deciding to revert to originalgender because he has been abused and betrayed.
Most "anti-sjw's" thrive on having a persecution complex. This is all pretty textbook, honestly.
I was already pretty far through this game and its anything but a shitty nostalgia cash grab. There's clearly a lot of hard work and passion been put into it which makes hearing these things about the developers particularly disappointing.
The game is legitimately great.
This news however sucks and made me get a refund.
Hahaha, I mean sure but I just think it can be part of gradual downward spiral toward some rather nasty open arms waiting to comfort them. There's more to it along the path but I definitely think it's something the alt-right preys on.
There are infinite games, movies, books, tv shows that are not primarily or at least openly developed by people like this, so it's not like anyone should be lacking options of where to spend their dollars.
"WITCH HUNT" LULW
Lmao why would these idiots make this discord public if they were going to discuss their bigoted world views?
I was pretty excited for this game. I was literally just about to buy it after *recommending it to a discord I frequent!*
This is highly disappointing because by all reviews it's a fantastic throwback game.
I'm trans. If I knew what the feelings I've been feeling since I was 4 or 5 were, I'd have asked to transition there.
But I didn't. Instead, for over 20 years, I suffered with it until I had the courage to come out and then the money to start HRT.
Children know they're trans, they just don't know what trans is.
As usual, alt-right goons ruin another good thing. It really is disappointing. :/
This is highly disappointing because by all reviews it's a fantastic throwback game.
I'm trans. If I knew what the feelings I've been feeling since I was 4 or 5 were, I'd have asked to transition there.
But I didn't. Instead, for over 20 years, I suffered with it until I had the courage to come out and then the money to start HRT.
Children know they're trans, they just don't know what trans is.
As usual, alt-right goons ruin another good thing. It really is disappointing. :/
Hopefully (doubtfully) they'll actually learn from this and maybe question why they feel the way they feel instead of using this to further entrench their bigotry.
Nah, they are going to double down on this, isnt like some sponsor or parent company would call them out
So do you want to talk about what the devs said or did you want to get your bullshit "Can't we just talk about games!" take out in the open?
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Implication that you can play it without purchasing it/supporting the devs, probably.
I think they meant for people to read between the lines with their comment...
But that's just my assumption.
Edit: Post above me seems to have arrived at the same thought.
I like how piracy is suddenly acceptable. That's not how a boycott works.
Yeah my question was rhetorical. If you're (not you the other member) going to stand for something do it the right way instead of half-assing it (and in turn doing something also bad).
Given that I've seen people say this shit unironically before (including in the THQ/ 8 chan thread) it's hard to tell these days
Don't pirate software.
Also, unless you're never going to talk about the game, you're not really accomplishing much. All the people you get to buy the game because you run around publicizing it and building a community for it will more than make up the monetary loss of your one copy of the game.
Also, unless you're never going to talk about the game, you're not really accomplishing much. All the people you get to buy the game because you run around publicizing it and building a community for it will more than make up the monetary loss of your one copy of the game.
Wow, what a bunch of clowns.
It amuses me when this sort of tirade goes so far past the line that it borders on self-parody. Saying people were "mocking Duke and tarnishing his good name" and that BF5 sold poorly because they "swj'd" it.
It's really incredible how people can be so dense and unaware, and how relatively new platforms like Discord provide such a clear window into the reality of these minds.
It amuses me when this sort of tirade goes so far past the line that it borders on self-parody. Saying people were "mocking Duke and tarnishing his good name" and that BF5 sold poorly because they "swj'd" it.
It's really incredible how people can be so dense and unaware, and how relatively new platforms like Discord provide such a clear window into the reality of these minds.
Is this "Calling them out makes them win in the end?"
That's what it reads like, and there is a kernel of truth about it. But at the same time, surely *they would get more money if they didn't lose peoples' purchases from stupid shit devs say* and we would continue to talk about it in a positive way, pulling in people who would otherwise not know about it.
All he has to do is not say these things. That's it. If he just kept his views private, nobody would know, hardly anyone would care. But he didn't, and the consequences are losing sales and support, losing WOM marketing, and people being leery of them *as a company*, not just for *this* game, but every game they make. In exchange, they MIGHT get a few copies sold that they otherwise wouldn't have, but that would only extend only to this game, and not others...and then they'd have to double down later, losing more.
We outnumber them. It's that simple. And I wish it could just be a shitty game that also had a shitty dev or two, because it feels pretty awful to have a game I looked forward to be led by a garbage people. This is why PR for larger companies typically apologizes, why people typically get fired or demoted afterward. It costs sales.
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ugh, finally a retro throwback fps that looks good and you pull something like this
you fucking MORONS
you fucking MORONS
so just one guy insinuating it is "suddenly acceptable"?
just report it like everybody else can do witht hat type of posts
i like how youre trying to get gotchas in this thread but not even refer to the actual discussion.
What about Dusk and Amid Evil?ugh, finally a retro throwback fps that looks good and you pull something like this
you fucking MORONS
There's nothing you can do about your co-workers being shitheads in their private lives in a lot of cases, and I really don't even cast judgement on everyone working at this studio for associating with people who spend their time spreading transphobic rhetoric in public. Some might not know, some might not have the luxury to up and quit their jobs even if they recognize the work environment is toxic as fuck.
But as much as I may be able to sympathize with the decent devs on the team, it was the company and its management that ultimately decided it was acceptable to host these bigoted views on their company's moderated, public forum for fans. Not everyone in the company is complicit, I'm certain, but I'm not uncomfortable saying the company itself bears responsibility.
Not at all. I was talking about the user who said you should pirate the game because it's good.
You may feel righteous because you didn't give them any money, but when you go to the OT or wherever and talk about how good the game is while you're playing it, you're promoting it, building a community for it, and getting other people to purchase it. Other people will buy it, and you've accomplished nothing (other than stealing).
Sometimes doing the right thing means you have to miss out on certain activities. Trying to find loopholes is self-defeating.
I was about to say, there have been a number of throwback FPS games recently.
What gotchas? Pretending the game is a failure does not do anybody any good.
Nobody has been banned for that. If you want to show some receipts of people getting banned for wanting to buy that game by all means do.
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One of the aforementioned lead devs has an account here.
If you would like to give your thoughts on why your fellow team members are like this, it would be greatly appreciated.
Tale as old as time, song as old as rhyme. Same fuckin' arguments too, when it comes down to it (oh no, they're corrupting the children!!)
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