"all of you criticizing transphobia means you have no life, but me complaining about your criticism means I have one! I am very smart!"
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Ion Fury devs show signs of transphobia among other issues. [Update: Voidpoint apologizes in statement, see threadmarks]
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"all of you criticizing transphobia means you have no life, but me complaining about your criticism means I have one! I am very smart!"
It can and often does. If you never knew about Michael Jackson's paedophilia you would still think his music is amazing and enjoy it.
There are many things you currently enjoy that, I can guarantee you, have awful people behind them. Most things you enjoy, more than likely. You will simply never know - and as such the art does indeed exist in a vacuum from the creator.
Yeah, the Ooblets people handled it right: Unlike it, "Crap we didn't know, we're sorry." Not "Sorry if you were offended", not making excuses for why it's ok, etc.
The video I linked came out around the time when artists were suddenly having malicious people using Remote Delete recently added to platforms like Telegram to delete parts or all of chats, so even the artist didn't have a record of what was actually said, and I took it to be referring to that. But yeah, it definitely wasn't framed the best in my view.
What's the opposite opinion of "Bigotry shouldn't be tolerated?"
Real talk, I went back 6 pages and have seen 0 talk about the game itself outside of that thread about the old pre 2000's character art.
I'm Travolta pacing trying to figure out what this guy is talking about.
You're comparing post counts between threads on a message board.
Dude, nobody is silencing you, but if you post shit don't expect other to take you seriously.
I'm not making it about me I am just a bit annoyed it's not a discussion and mainly insults. This thread is not about me and I have never tried to make it that at all. Apologies if I have or people think I have that's not the case at all. I said my bit discussion is not happening just insults so that's that
Oh phew thank god a cis able person was here to tell me I wasn't really hurt by the transphobia and ableism
Also, if you know of any pedos and you aren't spilling who they are you're being disingenous and an absolutely shit person. Post evidence and names, and report them to whoever might be interested.
please quote the people saying the game is now trash since you think its so many
Then respond to the below on the points you're actually raising:
If I went to the local gas station and heard an employee say a transphobic comment and the owner laughed I might think twice about going there again. If I went back and heard the owner laughing about it again I might think it worth the extra 3m drive to the next one.
Except this isn't even a three minute drive, it's just buying one of the hundreds of other great games on the market.
Can you quote the sizeable chunk of this thread that's saying the game is now bad?
Guys, if you want to brigade you shouldnt come all at the same time.
Tsk, amateurs.
We're all people first, gaming is merely a luxury hobby for us as enthusiasts. We should be trying to stand up for what's right and trying to improve tolerance and understanding as a species. Gaming is pretty irrelevant to that to be honest....
Multiple people have tried engaging with you at face value and you're choosing to only respond with some corny ass persecution complex.
Oh I can confirm that. I love A Hat in Time and it has JonTron voicing in that game. Doesn't mean I don't respect and understands people's choice to not buy/play that game. Why can't you understand that?
Yeh, and when you know about it it can factor into your purchasing decisions.
That's not how I read in any of their posts. This is the start of the original post that started the whole chain of replies (emphasis mine):
Further messages mentioning high heels (again, emphasis mine):
Can you link to any example where Harlequin said that high heels, themselves, are sexist, rather than the societal pressure to wear them? Otherwise, I must insist you seem to be misrepresenting their point.
i was going to quote and mock the poster saying all that shit but looks like they were banned so not worth the effort lol
By your own logic I shouldn't listen to you, as you're on ResetEra, which you say is filled with pedophiles, and you're criticizing others. Yeah, I bet you felt real smart typing that one, lol.
The people commenting in that discord like to think of themselves as intellectuals and that showing empathy for others is some sort of weakness that needs to be eradicated from the world.
It's incredibly sad that they feel that way about other human beings, it's even sadder that they feel the need to attack people for actually caring about other people and their feelings.
It's incredibly sad that they feel that way about other human beings, it's even sadder that they feel the need to attack people for actually caring about other people and their feelings.
Oh good, the I am going to use autism as a excuse. Yeah screw this, they just keep digging the hole.
Well this ought to be interesting.
'Okay, I know the devs said that the holocaust was a swell time but just because they have a different opinion doesn't mean their game is bad.'
"That isn't just a different opinion."
'So, they said something you don't like and now you're accusing them of break into their neighbours houses and eat their housecats!?'
"what"
"That isn't just a different opinion."
'So, they said something you don't like and now you're accusing them of break into their neighbours houses and eat their housecats!?'
"what"
"I cannot believe you guys spend your time caring about human rights. Get a life."
GTFO with that shit
It's crazy how they seem so oblivious that their cringey defense attempts super obviously follow the gaslighting shitposting play book. "Not native english speaking" follows a bunch of gamergate twitter shit "oh those? Whoopsies I don't use this much, what even is a twooter anyway I forgot?" Fucking gross.
It wouldn't surprise me to know that these types of people exist in every game development company to be honest. I'm still going to buy the game at some point because it looks fun but damn, that sucks to see them be like that.
I work with similar things. I'm not right wing or think like that about gay people and am very accepting, but someone at my company I work with is and doesn't want gay people to "push it on him" and stuff. We still keep him employed because he's a good employee otherwise and I don't know what the laws are regarding someone having those beliefs and firing them I guess but that's not my place to step in.
I work with similar things. I'm not right wing or think like that about gay people and am very accepting, but someone at my company I work with is and doesn't want gay people to "push it on him" and stuff. We still keep him employed because he's a good employee otherwise and I don't know what the laws are regarding someone having those beliefs and firing them I guess but that's not my place to step in.
To be honest, they just come off oas incredibly ignorant, pathetic, immature, insecure, and lame.
It's like sophomoric, teenage level bigotry and thought processes. Embarrassing more than anything really.
It's like sophomoric, teenage level bigotry and thought processes. Embarrassing more than anything really.
But like, they would probably fire that guy if he ran the company twitter and was following a bunch of anti-gay accounts, and liking homophobic tweets.
I know people love to whine about it, but I'm pretty into Era members calling this stuff out whenever they see it just so I personally know. I would never keep friends that talk this way, and there really aren't games that I need to the degree that I would tolerate this kind of rhetoric.
Ah, the ol' galaxy brain Sam Harris "You've taken me out of context" defense.
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People have every right to base purchasing decisions on information gathered in regards to developers. To do it out in the open and with such brazenness, it really shows where things are at nowadays. I will not support game developers that are shown to harbor such abhorrent views. Period.
Also, I want to point out that there are trans members of this forum. This isn't a bunch of crusader "SJW"s forming a mob, it's people ticked off over these game devs promoting hateful messages that hurt their friends, colleagues, family, community members, and themselves. You know, people (and gamers) "sticking together", as one now banned member wanted gamers to do. That's going to be important to some.
Yeah, as a Latino and a Jewish person, it personally means a lot to me when I see people on this forum stick up for bigotry against people like me. I don't know, I think to get upset over the "mob" is really trying to ignore everything actually going on in favor of a mostly made-up narrative.
You have to consider the context of where the desire to wear those high heels comes from and how it comes about, though, because it comes from certain societal views and expectations that are rooted in sexism, so, to me, the action and the societal expectations are very much linked to one another. (And while high heels are an extreme case because they're actually unhealthy to wear (on a regular basis, anyway), this is not just about women and high heels, it's about gendered fashion in general and applies to men, as well, though with men it's often more about what we shouldn't be wearing rather than what we should.) Would I tell a woman who wants to wear high heels she mustn't because sexism? No, obviously not (even though, yes, her wearing them does reinforce the aforementioned societal expectations and puts more pressure on other women to wear them - but that is no reason for her not to wear them if she feels good in them). Should we as a society work towards a place where, maybe, high heels are seen as more of an uncomfortable, unhealthy, archaic nuisance as opposed to a fashionable, sexy, desirable product? Absolutely. And should we work towards a society where anyone can wear whatever the fuck they feel like (with certain obvious exceptions like nazi insignia, black face,...) no matter their gender without being judged for wearing the "wrong" clothes? Yes! See, if society put the same pressure on men to dress in skimpy outfits or walk around in unhealthy footwear that it puts on women, I wouldn't be calling any of this sexist (obviously). I'd still argue that high heels are unhealthy to wear but that'd merely be a health issue, not a sexism issue.
Think about your example of a man wearing a gown. Imagine why that man would face discrimination. Not because he is a man, specifically, but because of homophobia.
What? No of course it doesn't thiis is just an intellectually lazy way to not deal with the moral repercussions of continuing to actively consume the work of someone who's done socially objectionable things by pretending that their art can somehow be divorced from them.
Discord is
Wow.
You know lots of people don't have the means to leave or to risk the consequences of not paying their taxes.
Wow.
You know lots of people don't have the means to leave or to risk the consequences of not paying their taxes.
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