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finfinfin

The Fallen
Jul 26, 2018
1,371
I love the minimal amount of context in the OP. Really helps ramp up the dread of the "oh no" replies.

I'm planning on watching this later. I've never enjoy an a/b/o fic but I'm expecting some very classy excerpts and analysis of knotty legal problems.
 

Fisty

Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,211
Holy shit...

Hbomb, Folding Ideas, and Todd in the Shadows reading wolf erotica

Im so in
 

Fiction

Fanthropologist
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,727
Elf Tower, New Mexico
I don't read Omegaverse (unless the author is a fav of mine and I hem and haw for days) and seeing this appear on my feed was so fucking surreal. *takes a deep breath* *dives in*
 

RumbleHumble

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,128
Ellis listens to ALAB confirmed.

They covered this stuff in July.

www.alabseries.com

Episode 13: There Will Be Knots — ALAB Series

Michael, Tarik, and Tim explore the "Omegaverse" and find, among its other natural treasures, a nefarious tale of a plundering capitalist hell-bent on using the derricks of the law and courts to extract this magical land's value, to the exclusion of the communities that have tilled its soi
 

Twstr709

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,890
Love you Lindsay, but I can't do this for an hour and I loved the hour long Cats video.
 

Dennis8K

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,161
15 seconds in...

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I read that as "to skip TO the wolf porn" and was like that is convenient thanks
 

mael

Avenger
Nov 3, 2017
16,764
This vid is the biggest crossover of all time!
Just to read wolf porn!
 

Twonny

Member
Dec 12, 2018
925
I had a friend jokingly explain to me that omegaverse was a Marvel comics thing and told me to google it.

I got very upset.
 

Jotakori

Teyvat Traveler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,182
That was fascinating, and I did not anticipate myself going into a video about this subject laughing so hard but then leaving it so mildly pissed off lol.
I do think it got a bit rambly and meandering around the middle and started focusing too much on nitpicking every little thing Cain said or did--kinda losing sight of the larger picture in the process, and boy was that DMCA/copyright explanation by LegalEagle super dull after about the first minute of it, but it came back together in the end with a strong message and a great send off.
Not her best video essay work, but phew what a wild ride of a subject and perhaps some of her best jokes, and it's really cool seeing how many people collaborated with her to make it come together. :D
 

Fiction

Fanthropologist
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,727
Elf Tower, New Mexico
Halfway through: Cain claiming that her stories birthed non/dubcon in Omegaverse is cracking me up. Thats like, the whole reason Omegaverse exists.
 

I am a Bird

Member
Oct 31, 2017
7,218
You know when pick-up artists and all round assholes talk about "alpha chads" and "beta cucks"? That's Omegaverse. There are only 3 types of humans in the world, alpha, beta, and omega (derived from a now retracted treatise on wolf pack dynamics). There are no personalities or character traits. Every single aspect, action, and decision is ruled by a tiny set of iron-clad decision trees based on their assigned grouping.

It reminds me of this

Got it racism it for the dads
 

DorkLord54

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,465
Michigan
Man, I forgot how crazy the romance and YA fandoms are. Almost gives Star Wars fans and gamers a run for their money - ALMOST.
 

Maolfunction

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,871
As funny as the Omegaverse stuff is, I found it way more interesting how a case like this almost set precedent for something that would hurt small creators even more. (Though I will say, it would have been amusing if all future DMCA cases like this one had to reference the Omegaverse)

I can see why Ellis would cover this. Isn't she in the middle of a counterclaim suit on one of her videos herself?
 

EdibleKnife

Member
Oct 29, 2017
7,723
The revelations from discovery slayed me. Shameless as fuck!

Finished finally. Really glad she tackled this. DMCA takedown abuse is rampant and that shit needs to be changed yesterday
100% Despite the discussion about YT's resources, small creators there are constantly ripe for this type of bullying.
 

Pyccko

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,868
so if I remember correctly the omegaverse is where all the alphas—men and women—have CANINE COCKS complete with knots and go around impregnating (anally, in the case of men) the omegas, who are basically handmaid's tale slaves, right?

I don't want to beat around the bush here
 

Naijaboy

The Fallen
Mar 13, 2018
15,250
It was only a matter of time before someone looks into that genre of fanfiction.

All I can say right now is that the world's not ready for what's in store.
 

RPG_Fanatic

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,624
I only had a vague idea about what Omegaverse was until today. What little I heard from the basic premise was enough to avoid fanfiction that used it like the plague. This topic has reinforced that I made the correct decision
 

Arcia

Member
Oct 27, 2017
661
Houston, TX
Oh jesus

Literally every time I stumble across fanfics with this shit I am somehow still surprised at how they seem to continually one up each other with how gross and toxic they can be. It's not even just the body horror aspect of them, these stories condone rapey interactions between all the characters by design.

It's like someone took the Gor novels and added furries and mpreg to it. I hate it so much.
 

Aly

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,114
Ugh, I hate everything to do with this trope. I've never seen a fic with it that wasn't gross or toxic asf. That's fine if its the point in some of them, but wayyyy too much of it has a slimy romantic tilt. Gonna be an interesting watch.
 

ItchyTasty

Member
Feb 3, 2019
5,907
Let's each of us light a candle for all the quality gay art and fiction that has been ruined by Omegaverse tropes like male pregnancy. It's tragic.

I'm interested in hunks getting dicked down. Why sour this pure and beautiful activity with hetero baggage?
Sounds like it's the usual straights fetishing queer relationships tbh
 

jett

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
44,653
I watched 15 minutes of this and I'm not sure I want to know any more about this shit.
 

IzzyRX

Avenger
Oct 28, 2017
5,816
Ohmygod, wolf porn.
This video was a journey, the voice-overs were so good and so over the top.
 

Tfritz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,254
The Legal Eagle Guy, reading the script: I thought you said this was about Dick Wolf!
 

iWannaHat

Member
Jul 1, 2019
1,327
"I know a fair amount about copyright law, but I don't know anything about wolf pornography"
 

Godfather

Game on motherfuckers
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,482
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Legal Eagle claims he doesn't know anything about the Omegaverse, and yet his first line refers to Wolf Pornography, so he MUST know what it's about.

In bird law, that's perjury!
 

Kino

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,318
This video is a rollercoaster ride. I live for some petty fandom drama

Addison Cain is totally a karen
 

Kasumin

Member
Nov 19, 2017
1,929
Oh jesus

Literally every time I stumble across fanfics with this shit I am somehow still surprised at how they seem to continually one up each other with how gross and toxic they can be. It's not even just the body horror aspect of them, these stories condone rapey interactions between all the characters by design.

It's like someone took the Gor novels and added furries and mpreg to it. I hate it so much.

Whoa whoa whoa. Writing something as fantasy does not mean condoning it in real life. This had already been argued ad infinitum in fandom.

Just like how people may have certain kinks, doesn't mean they want something like that outside of a fantasy.

You sound like the people on Tumblr who bully people for writing something that's "wrong."
 

Arcia

Member
Oct 27, 2017
661
Houston, TX
Whoa whoa whoa. Writing something as fantasy does not mean condoning it in real life. This had already been argued ad infinitum in fandom.

Just like how people may have certain kinks, doesn't mean they want something like that outside of a fantasy.

You sound like the people on Tumblr who bully people for writing something that's "wrong."
Maybe you misunderstood me, I didn't mean in my post that I think the authors condone those kinks in real life. I meant that in the omegaverse stories, the worlds are usually are set up so that the characters are in dubcon/noncon relationships, which I find gross. I'm not saying the authors or readers of these stories do that themselves or anything.

I'm not attacking anyone, just saying I find this sub genre upsetting personally. You don't need to compare me to haters/antis on Tumblr lol
 

rsfour

Member
Oct 26, 2017
16,746
What in the fuck is dubcon.

I don't want to google. This video is just..yeah.
 

Feign

Member
Aug 11, 2020
2,499
<-- Coast
Jenny Nicholson as Addison Cain was so goddamn perfect. She's another quality YouTuber who takes a while between releases, so it's always nice to have her hamming it up in the way only she can.

And holy shit at Sarah Z being in a Lindsay Ellis video. That makes me really happy.
 

Keldroc

Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,978
Ellis listens to ALAB confirmed.

They covered this stuff in July.

www.alabseries.com

Episode 13: There Will Be Knots — ALAB Series

Michael, Tarik, and Tim explore the "Omegaverse" and find, among its other natural treasures, a nefarious tale of a plundering capitalist hell-bent on using the derricks of the law and courts to extract this magical land's value, to the exclusion of the communities that have tilled its soi

I guarantee this video has been in the works since before that.
 

Burt

Fight Sephiroth or end video games
Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,140
I'm 1:47 into the video and it already feels like my lips are gonna peel back over my skull I'm cringing so hard

I love it


edit:

oh no, I just hit please stop i cant