You know I didn't listen to the voip before posting that. Yikes man.I'm guessing this won't work on 360 most likely.
ah, back when everybody used game chat
jfc these people are unbearable. just listen to them.
MechAssaultI have no idea wtf I'd use this for since Halo is on PC now, but his is awesome.
only thing I care about on that list is Crimson Skies.MechAssault
PGR2
Midtown Madness 3
Rallisport Challenge 2
Amped 2
Links 2004
Conker: Live and Reloaded
Unreal Championship 2
Crimson Skies
To name a few examples.
It uses none of their code, completely clean room, plus a service that won't be making money nor makes Microsoft money. I hope they don't do anything, not sure they have a case regardless but that doesn't mean much.Amazing work by these guys. Is there any indication Microsoft would look to shut this down?
I figured this would be the case but it's nice to hear that confirmation. I highly doubt this will get shut down and if anything this preserves online for people to go revisit at least some of the early days of Xbox live to a degree. It's going to be rad.It uses none of their code, completely clean room, plus a service that won't be making money nor makes Microsoft money. I hope they don't do anything, not sure they have a case regardless but that doesn't mean much.
Microsoft's stuff was only leaked like two days ago; that'd have been a quick turnaround if they looked at the source code.I figured this would be the case but it's nice to hear that confirmation. I highly doubt this will get shut down and if anything this preserves online for people to go revisit at least some of the early days of Xbox live to a degree. It's going to be rad.
My main concerns are:
-How will servers be handled and how will they be maintained. There has to be a cost associated with this and who is going to pay to keep it running outside of a few enthusiasts and what happens when whoever handles the server has an emergency or leaves
-hacking was a big problem in the early days of online gaming, particularly with certain OG Xbox games. While this won't draw as much of a hacking problem I fully expect games like Halo 2 to have hackers still. Would there be a way to system ban those folks?
-lack of mic communicator packs being readily available. You needed one of these to plug in a mic into the controller back then and I wonder if enough people will have them these days because they seem to be much harder to come by these days and aren't advertised as much anymore either on Kijiji or eBay. The original Xbox Live didn't have party chat and this was the only easy way to communicate. While discord is fine for playing with a party of friends, it's going to be hard unless you have friends to play OG Xbox with. On the bright side, I don't expect as much racist and sexist nonsense on this because I don't see those types of douchebags to be attempting to go through all the necessary hoops to play retro stuff.
Good to hear. I have a crap ton of original xboxes, 16+ controllers and 8 communicator packs because I wanted to keep the possibility of system link play an option for myself with XBL being dead. Something like this will completely change that for me if it manages to launch because I won't need all that kit anymoreThis uses zero leaked code in this project.
People need to realize that the entire Xbox scene was built off of code that has only recently become more widely available. Many custom dashboards and BIOS that people continue to use since 2003 are from leaked code. But there has never been an Xbox Live replacement, which would have done great back in the day, because there just isn't anything usable in there as far as I've been told by people who were there. And that discounts the Xbox 360 live code that has been leaked years ago which is also apparently useless.
This new implementation is built from scratch, and any tools that are made to help you get needed information will likely be buildable with the open source dev tools, so you won't even need something compiled with Microsoft's SDK, which would make it even more legal, if such things are possible hah.
Modern Vintage Gamer just uploaded a video on his thoughts, how this service should function, and how the Xbox Live network security worked.
I'd love to be able to play all of these again. I don't know how many hours I spent playing Cat and Mouse in PGR2.MechAssault
PGR2
Midtown Madness 3
Rallisport Challenge 2
Amped 2
Links 2004
Conker: Live and Reloaded
Unreal Championship 2
Crimson Skies
To name a few examples.
There is kind of a novelty in playing old console games online as opposed to PC. They're even still tunnelling CounterStrike Xbox through system link to get that online. Though I think in regards to Chaos Theory, you don't have to jump through a set of hoops to get multiplayer running on console for that specific game compared to its PC equivalent.I'd love to be able to play all of these again. I don't know how many hours I spent playing Cat and Mouse in PGR2.
Most of all though I want to be able to play Rainbow Six 3 and Spies vs. Mercs. To this day they are still my most played multiplayer games. RS3 was my first ever online multiplayer game and I probably had 1000's of hours logged lol.
That's awesome! Loved Mechassault and seeing this bring back memories omg.A "live" multiplayer match has happened on Insignia! Amazing progress!
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Just as a note, Im not someone who is actually doing any work on the project, they just pull me in to test things knowing I have something like 300 Xbox games and know my way around the console hah. Any technical questions should be directed to them, even in the stream above I was going off of what I knew (which can change rapidly!)
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