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Inside Xbox 7.5.20 + First Look @ Xbox Series X Gameplay |OT| Third Party's The Charm
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Both? The point I'm making is if EA has a habit of not upgrading their current gen games for next gen hardware it would suck. Same goes for TF2 and BF5.
Thank you, seems more like baiting people giving the wrong expectations of what is actually shown. At least shinobie was right in tempering our expectations. But he also mentioned that MS does have exciting first party games to show.
I regard this event as a missed opportunity, to actually make the casual gamers excited for the series X and its capabilities. Now they more or less reaffirmed that your not magically getting next gen games out of cross gen games. Which sucks since Xbox intends to do so for 2 years.
Bruh...
This forum has been praising Microsoft this entire year for how they've handled their X1X rollout and have been heavily shitting on Sony's every step of the way and now when people say "nah this ain't it, this was bad" you have the audacity, the gall and the nerve to say this?
Bruh, what are you even saying right now lmao. Who's man's is this?
"This forum"...what forum are you spending time on? Era is heavily slanted towards Sony. Like, it's not even close. We've been getting threads about literal rubbish nonsense like PC holding back PS5 development because of the new drives, and people have been saying for months that they think Xbox will also hold back PS5 development because of Xbox One and Lockhart, and thankfully Sony will pull out the exclusives. Seriously, where have you been?
Even people with the bare minimum of expectations: Valhalla gameplay and nothing else, came away disappointed. What a shitshow
You're saying this as if that sentiment were exclusive to this forum, but from what I'm seeing in social media and also some WhatsApp groups interested in gaming, they weren't wowed by this. It's ok to criticize Xbox when they disappoint, I'm very excited by Series X and I understand they have a lot to show yet, but people are allowed to express disappointment, especially when they hyped up this episode of IX and talked about next gen gameplay. Posts like yours only propagate the notion that "people downright hate Xbox", when in fact I've seen threads where they've been praised for their messaging and clarity when it comes to next gen. Don't act like this, criticism should be given when deserved. Now, there are some posts clearly stirring console warring, report them and the mods will take care of them.
The games shown were ok but I think showing only cross-gen titles was a mistake, especially when MS announced it as a reveal of next-generation games. When the expectation set is to see something next-gen to then be shown a futuristic looking space shooter or 2d stick-shooter will always disappoint a huge number of people hungry to see what these machines can do, no matter how fun they look.
This was a chance for MS to really show the difference the next-gen will bring but to me there was little there that looked a huge leap beyond the current generation, the AC reveal especially was terrible in terms of actually showing any gameplay.
I'm no marketing expert but I'd have had a separate segment for all the games that were coming to GamePass and really highlighted the number of titles that you'd have access to on the system if you subscribed to GP.
Also I couldn't help but notice the 'We hope this is what it'll look like on Series X' tacked onto the bottom of most of the videos. People are wary of target renders, in-engine claims etc anyway but pasting it across the bottom of your videos, though honest, will just raise questions about how indicative they will be of the final product.
This was a chance for MS to really show the difference the next-gen will bring but to me there was little there that looked a huge leap beyond the current generation, the AC reveal especially was terrible in terms of actually showing any gameplay.
I'm no marketing expert but I'd have had a separate segment for all the games that were coming to GamePass and really highlighted the number of titles that you'd have access to on the system if you subscribed to GP.
Also I couldn't help but notice the 'We hope this is what it'll look like on Series X' tacked onto the bottom of most of the videos. People are wary of target renders, in-engine claims etc anyway but pasting it across the bottom of your videos, though honest, will just raise questions about how indicative they will be of the final product.
Lol the burden of proof is on you, you're the one that started an argument with a definitive claim.
Yeah that was pretty weak. We saw solid and interesting games, but as a next-gen look-in this event failed. We saw nothing that doesn't look like current-gen and heck there wasn't even gameplay footage. It would have been a nice Direct or State of Play which you can drop in between the big events, but not as first look at next gen third party games. First party event will be most likely more interesting, but a lot of their games will be 3,4 years away and won't be gameplay either.
I think Sony has now a massive chance to get into pole position. If they do an event and showcase gameplay from the likes of Horizon 2, Spider-Man 2, Gran Turismo 7 and maybe rumored stuff like Demon's Souls or Silent Hill, they will ride the hype wave till launch, which will only get bigger with The Last Of Us and Ghost Of Tsushima in the summer.
I think Sony has now a massive chance to get into pole position. If they do an event and showcase gameplay from the likes of Horizon 2, Spider-Man 2, Gran Turismo 7 and maybe rumored stuff like Demon's Souls or Silent Hill, they will ride the hype wave till launch, which will only get bigger with The Last Of Us and Ghost Of Tsushima in the summer.
Just checking in in my work break. So let me get this straight , there was no footage of next gen games running in XSX? That's too bad . Was looking forward to seeing some. Oh well .
They really were.
Oh wait.
How does that conflict with the fact that they set expectations at the start of the presentation?
You can state whatever you want. I'm just commenting on the complete lack of understanding, even after the introduction to the show.
Naw, some need to get that persecution complex flowing.
An earlier post said it best, if this was promoted as about Smart Delivery, cross gen it would have probably went over alot better. Saying next gen gameplay, then barely showing any would have ppl disappointed.
dunno most of this felt like stuff you would sandwitch in between major game announcements. Nothing really caught my eye, kinda into assassin creed but if it's a MT mess like the last 2 I don't want it.
it didn't help that they saved some reveals for the talking part of the event though. Revealing dirt was 4K 60 or 1080p 120 would've made it better during the gameplay trailer.
Have you ? Microsoft opened up E3 2013 with Metal Gear Solid V
Nothing shown was particularly impressive (except the first game being done by one guy wtf?) or "next gen". Though the promises some made for frame rate options were indeed promising. Don't think a single game in the trailer interested me at all though. Mainly watched to see Xbox Game Studios stuff, so it was a bit disappointing in that regard, but I guess we gotta look forward to July then.
Dude I'm pretty harsh on MS because I'm a huge fan but you are so blatant it's not even funny.
was it that different from what you'd have seen on stage at E3? Its all sizzle reel/in-engine stuff these days especially for first looks.
Wait what? Just from that trailer I could see how Valhalla looks far better than Odyssey.
Are people expecting CG graphics here? Go play Control on a 2080ti with Raytracing on so that way you will get your expectations in check.
Of course i or anybody else wouldnt have cared if it was only AAA 10/10 games shown and it being a stream.
This stream just cemented my thoughts on the stream concept, it's shit honestly and will be shit since all publishers want to have their own and the market gets over saturated with directs that is hyped to oblivion and does not deliver, at least during E3 you can be disapointed one day of the year lol
The most exciting thing about this whole event was the reveal of the boot animation a few days ago while advertising it.
Inside Xbox fucking sucks more often than not, but this hype for next gen, no gameplay, and talking heads discussing bullshit. It's beyond disappointing.
The only shit I want to see is a trailer for Fable 4. Throw it on Youtube and say nothing until July. It would blow away this whole showing.
Inside Xbox fucking sucks more often than not, but this hype for next gen, no gameplay, and talking heads discussing bullshit. It's beyond disappointing.
The only shit I want to see is a trailer for Fable 4. Throw it on Youtube and say nothing until July. It would blow away this whole showing.
dude were you in the road to ps5 thread? i can guarantee you if this was a week long hype from Sony you'd be seeing alot of the same posts. peeps are just thirsty ready to see what these new systems can do and were still not seeing it.
I understand the thought process around being able to continually provide information over the coming months, however it's rarely executed well and this is no exception in my opinion. If you're going to do it this way you need to be able to justify it but I think this wasn't worth it. Next gen is very much a matter of go big or go home.
The best looking game was the first one they showed by far, I'm skeptical about it because it's a one person studio or whatever. On a positive note, I thought Chorus looked cool even though it's not my type of game it looked refreshing. The ascent was okay looking, Scarlet Nexus also looked decent.
Assassin's Creed saying it's a gameplay reveal, followed by showing a cinematic trailer, followed by doubling down that this is GAMEPLAY is baffling. In game footage? Maybe. Gameplay? No. The hosts and interviews added nothing to the event either.
Just give us a 60 or 90 minute event and spread the less exciting announcements in between.
The best looking game was the first one they showed by far, I'm skeptical about it because it's a one person studio or whatever. On a positive note, I thought Chorus looked cool even though it's not my type of game it looked refreshing. The ascent was okay looking, Scarlet Nexus also looked decent.
Assassin's Creed saying it's a gameplay reveal, followed by showing a cinematic trailer, followed by doubling down that this is GAMEPLAY is baffling. In game footage? Maybe. Gameplay? No. The hosts and interviews added nothing to the event either.
Just give us a 60 or 90 minute event and spread the less exciting announcements in between.
If you tell people there's going to be gameplay and the news outlets tell everyone there's going to be gameplay and you show very little gameplay - expect the internet's wrath.
I mean the Assassin Creed trailer they've uploaded to YouTube is literally titled 'gameplay trailer' and shows zero gameplay.
I hope they will look difference and we will see most first party games being showed.
Why would you think that? I was just not impressed at all with what was presented. So, I hope Sony will do different, meaning, showing some games that I will be interested on.
I agreed, still i'm only talking about what was showed, not how it was showed. So I expect Sony to show not in a different way, but some 1st party games that will make me impressed.
Yeah, this is a bit ridiculous.
That was their first mediocre showing so far (since before TGA), and suddenly they need to change their marketing team?
Reality has a well-known Sony bias.
Sony has a world wide following, so it is not surprising that people like Sony. It's not bias as much as just how things are.
Geoff Keighley had this text on his official stream for like 10 minutes.
He just took it off.
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lmao
Backwards compatibility implies you simply can play the old games on the new hardware. Smart Delivery is about upgrading your game to benefit the power of the next gen
Fine, not a launch lineup but I mean the first games they choose to show for their new console. Shouldn't we be excited after this?
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I didn't hear any of the lead-in to this, or any marketing stuff, so I guess I was able to just enjoy what I saw without any highfalutin expectations. I'm awfully sorry for the people who had their hopes sky-high but I'm still taken aback by the takes here. I browse Era pretty casually so it's pretty unsettling to see this kind of reaction to new (and in my mind exciting) stuff. Thanks for taking the time to illuminate me!
It's more than that.
You buy a game on Xbox One, you get the future next gen upgrade for free.
So if it was implemented last gen, you'd buy the 360 version of GTAV and get the next gen version for free basically, that's the deal.
I get what you are saying - but its not like e3 never had disappointing Press conferences or presentation.
We know that MS big presentation will be in July....thats the one you can have bigger expectations for. This was just an appetizer to dont leave their fans hanging.
Damn. My main takeway is we've really started to hit the point of diminishing returns for fidelity. Next-gen is all about higher framerates for me at this point.
Why would you buy a Series X to play games that are on your current hardware and look visually indistinguishable? The negativity is centered on this being marketed as a next-gen blowout, which it objectively delivered none of. Has nothing to do with new IPs or a lack of Halos or Gears.
Agreed completely. I'd say that all of those games were pretty impressive if they run near 4K/60
Man, I feel sorry for people like this. Like if you feel bad or have issues with this or any other forum is not healthy.
No, they set expectations when advertising the event as a first look of gameplay.
They "tempered" expectations with the start of the presentation, which is why people were immediately led to being disappointed. Not to mention that if you jumped into the stream at any point after the opening, you did not get that message, you were joining to see gameplay, and you barely saw it.
It's alright to admit Microsoft bungled the advertising/messaging for this. It's not the first time and it probably won't be the last, but it's not going to do any lasting PR damage. People will have long forgotten by the time the later showcases come around.
Ya know MS still has yet to show their first party games too right?
I thought we had evolved past using autism as an insult/negative connotation.
Enjoy the ban.
Wait what. Did he get hacked? He didn't write that text himself did he?Geoff Keighley had this text on his official stream for like 10 minutes.
He just took it off.
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