It also means that Joseph S loved what he played etc. So much of the idiot panic when he was hired was "it'll need rebuilding from the start! The game doesn't work!" Or whatever. Which clearly isn't the case.
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Inside Halo Infinite - January 2021
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╮(￣ω￣;)╭ What ya gonna do. Sometimes, the hype cycle gets too long and this will inevitably happen.
I, for one, love the detail in this and I really enjoy all these updates. I was sober but still very optimistic after the demo. I think the renders look fantastic and I look forward to seeing the gameplay view models. I think the details suggest the opposite of generic. I loved the hints at how they're playing with physics in the demo, and they're hinting real hard in that direction now. Great!
I'm with you that I don't think the assets need to be pristine for this to be a good game. But I will be very happy to see the art and style allow the world, environment, and story to shine in the best light possible.
mmm yeah I never really have problem with Halo Infinite (or the previous ones) gameplay anyway. What we've seen so far seems pretty good.
Yeah, agreed, such a great update. Their communication is on point now. Also, don't forget that there will be mid-month Q&As too! So basically new info every two weeks!!
I have a feeling that this is part of the reason as to why we have an upgrade system and friendly bases/outposts. Curious how both of these will work.
If you look at the Halo Infinite campaign gameplay demo, they have shown the VK78 Commando, which is pretty much the USNC version of the Needle Rifle (minus the supercombine explosion) and the Pulse Carbine, which is pretty much the Covenant version of the Battle Rifle, but is powered by energy and not classic ammo.
I think having this variety is fine, as long as you don't overfill MP maps with them.
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One thing I never thought of, I wonder if the return of the old art style also means the multiplayer medals will return to the classic designs too.
It's been eight years so I have gotten used to the blue Double Kill medal, but still... it was iconic in its old yellow color. Would love to see that back.
It's been eight years so I have gotten used to the blue Double Kill medal, but still... it was iconic in its old yellow color. Would love to see that back.
One thing I never thought of, I wonder if the return of the old art style also means the multiplayer medals will return to the classic designs too.
It's been eight years so I have gotten used to the blue Double Kill medal, but still... it was iconic in its old yellow color. Would love to see that back.
I hope the old medals come back. New ones are fine but the older ones are much more recognisable to me.
That'd be dope, but please not the ugly, gritty Reach medals. Gimme the Halo 2/3 versions in super clean.One thing I never thought of, I wonder if the return of the old art style also means the multiplayer medals will return to the classic designs too.
It's been eight years so I have gotten used to the blue Double Kill medal, but still... it was iconic in its old yellow color. Would love to see that back.
Can't believe this keeps happening at this point. It's been what, almost 10 years?!Somewhat off topic. But LOL
Marketing team fail? Or is this all on IGN?
I seriously hope they're done with the Prometheans, just terribly designed enemies to play against
You're assuming the game was ready in the first place for a fall 2020 release
You're assuming the game was ready in the first place for a fall 2020 release
One thing I never thought of, I wonder if the return of the old art style also means the multiplayer medals will return to the classic designs too.
It's been eight years so I have gotten used to the blue Double Kill medal, but still... it was iconic in its old yellow color. Would love to see that back.
This is yet an other thing that I could see them monetizing.
hopefully they've learned from the issues MCC on pc has had to slowly fix, because i was really turned off from playing that a while because of the high refresh rate issues and general inaccuracies compared to the original games
if i can get the game to run at 120+fps without any visual issues (which i will assume it will since multiplayer is already 120 and that's at 4k) then i think i'm sold, i'm pretty picky about performance in FPS games. i hope they change their mind and make the campaign have an unlocked fps mode with dynamic resolution or something on xbox though, because shooters are just plain better past 60fps
if i can get the game to run at 120+fps without any visual issues (which i will assume it will since multiplayer is already 120 and that's at 4k) then i think i'm sold, i'm pretty picky about performance in FPS games. i hope they change their mind and make the campaign have an unlocked fps mode with dynamic resolution or something on xbox though, because shooters are just plain better past 60fps
I think it could be cool to have ammo that is better against vehicles for instance. Because in the latest halo games every weapon was good against vehicles and i didnt like that. Especially in BTB it sucks if you get a vehicle and 3 guys shooting you with dmr's across the screen kill you in a few seconds.
Ultimately it sounds like all this will do is result in more defined roles for each weapon.
Eg: rather than the carbine just being a fast firing DMR we might see some more trade offs/benefits for using one or the other.
Yeah. Was confirmed to be a pickup item previously. You can see it in the room behind the Spartan here:
Holy fuck hahahaha bungie xDSomewhat off topic. But LOL
Marketing team fail? Or is this all on IGN?
Thanks guys. Looking forward to the BETA!
Best ride in any game ever.
If they bring it back, the name needs to be renamed to: Brute Chopper - A Halo Story.
I'm assuming that now that the game is content complete, 343 have all of this time to play test and polish. Didn't say anything about last Fall; the game clearly wasn't in a stated to be shipped.
It will be an Xbox One game and an Xbox Series game. There's more than enough time to polish the Series version far and above the xbox one version.
Does anyone really presume that the next Horizon game would not be visually impressive because it's also coming out on PS4?
There's a reason he said 7- 8 months. We're 7-8 months from release. The game is launch content complete. What does Fall 2020 have to do with this?
feel free to hope but i'm not overhypying myself with either game, since they are still last gen games with next gen upgrades.
I have criticised 343 before and wanted change in the office, because the showing at E3 after so many years was poor. However these updates are cool and I am more confident 343 can do the job, then I was after the infamous demo. Fingers crossed, they can make their best Halo yet.
I like that and Xbox deserves credit for the decision to delay the game so far out. After the absymal showing (graphics), this was definitely needed.
When I read that I thought it'll be like "Here is the new gameplay demo. Remember to sign up for the flight today" at E3.
Horizon Forbidden West among other games showed that cross gen games can look amazing. The trailer certainly did. Just for the record, I don't expect 343 to match Horizon Forbidden West, due to talent and target FPS. But there is the possibility of a nice looking Series version of Halo. 343 showed with Halo 4 that they got it in their locker, even though Halo 5 wasn't that good looking imo.
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It was a big call because we all saw how much marketing was revolving around the game. I believe if Microsoft insisted, the game would have been released, but it would have been unpolished and lacking in content and honestly would have done more harm than good.
Happy to hear damage types are going more in depth. Something I've wanted out of the sandbox for a long time because it can easily fix the issues of weapons just being copies of each other.
I also hope the Banshee design in that concept sticks. We need to move on from the Reach design.
I also hope the Banshee design in that concept sticks. We need to move on from the Reach design.
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I thought the same, it looks really cool. It seems like they're going for a blend of the Halo Wars 2 aesthetic and the classic, colorful aesthetic (e.g. Elites come in blue even though most Banished forces were red in HW2), which is fine by me, as long as they find a nice balance. I don't wanna have all enemies be black and red (like in HW2, where it makes perfect sense), but I adore some of the, well, brutal designs in that game, especially the vehicles.
Got it. I never noticed down to that level, which is really cool and shows the potential of expanding on it. Tha js
All great points. Would be a great balance where you can be successful with just the basics but being able to master the next level stuff will rightfully give you a proper advantage. The anti-weapon stuff makes a lot of sense too. Appreciate the discussion!
Lots of info and transparency is good.
The tech they're mentioning for getting good performance out of all the different platforms is interesting, here's hoping it holds up come launch.
The tech they're mentioning for getting good performance out of all the different platforms is interesting, here's hoping it holds up come launch.
I don't get it.Somewhat off topic. But LOL
Marketing team fail? Or is this all on IGN?
Bungie? :D Lol.Somewhat off topic. But LOL
Marketing team fail? Or is this all on IGN?
And Horizon FW is on PS4, yet it still looked incredible from the trailer footage. Miles Morales is on PS4, yet looks amazing (pun maybe intended), on PS5. While I don't expect Infinite to completely match, say, Forbidden West, the recent renders of how 343 have significantly improved the visuals gives me confidence that it'll still be a looker. Just because games are on last gen systems, doesn't mean that devs can't also leverage the extra performance of the new ones.
Does anyone else remember those 3d renders of vehicles and what not that bungiebput out before halo 3? The things that you could rotate around to see the entirety of the model. They should do that again for Halo infinite. It would be a relatively easy way for them to put out "new stuff" that is exciting for fans without really revealing too much.
The QuickTime videos. God I feel old. 😂
Remember thinking back all that real time lighting talk. I want bloodgulch in the dark and just warthog lights, spartan lights, plasma fire etc. showing the way or maybe have sime illuminating fungus and flies too. It would look so cool and be quite spooky and scary which would make travelling across the open field more cool going base to base in almost pitch dark.
The sandbox team in the blog post mentions that their launch content is already basically done and in the game, and that they were taking time now to bug squash etc. I'm sure not every team is in exactly the same place, but it certainly suggests many additional months of polishing due to the delay.
I made a post back in the speculation thread about damage types, it now that we know a bit more about Infinite I think it's fun to speculate again on how they would work.
Ballistic: Most UNSC weapons. Standard damage to shields and health. Headshot capable. Small arms to vehicles is weak, large arms more affective.
Plasma: Most Banished weapons. Super effective against shields, health damage stuns. Can't headshot. Super effective against small vehicles and equipment.
Spikes: Brute weapons. Pierce damage through shields, massive health damage. Can headshot. Wrecks all vehicles.
Forerunner: Sentinels are in the game and I'm sure 343 will have new Forerunner weapons hiding on Zeta Halo, and I think they should take on a more power weapon role and be a mix of the previous 3 while also having knock back as a main differentiator. Sentinel beams that can push away Elites and Warthogs, slow the forward progress of a Scorpion or Wraith, and guns that are hyper lethal to everything, like how the Binary and Incineration Cannon are. Turn the Light Rifle into a precision Sentinel Beam/Halo 5 Binary where each shot needs to be held down and has a slow time to kill but can hold back infantry from moving in.
Halo needs more variety in its weapons so that people can more easily find a weapon or class that suits them, like if it were a looter shooter. There can't be AR, Purple AR, and Orange AR anymore.
Ballistic: Most UNSC weapons. Standard damage to shields and health. Headshot capable. Small arms to vehicles is weak, large arms more affective.
Plasma: Most Banished weapons. Super effective against shields, health damage stuns. Can't headshot. Super effective against small vehicles and equipment.
Spikes: Brute weapons. Pierce damage through shields, massive health damage. Can headshot. Wrecks all vehicles.
Forerunner: Sentinels are in the game and I'm sure 343 will have new Forerunner weapons hiding on Zeta Halo, and I think they should take on a more power weapon role and be a mix of the previous 3 while also having knock back as a main differentiator. Sentinel beams that can push away Elites and Warthogs, slow the forward progress of a Scorpion or Wraith, and guns that are hyper lethal to everything, like how the Binary and Incineration Cannon are. Turn the Light Rifle into a precision Sentinel Beam/Halo 5 Binary where each shot needs to be held down and has a slow time to kill but can hold back infantry from moving in.
Halo needs more variety in its weapons so that people can more easily find a weapon or class that suits them, like if it were a looter shooter. There can't be AR, Purple AR, and Orange AR anymore.
how is it looking more generic? the game didn't change in it's direction or it's ideas lol maybe it will change on the visuals front, which it needed since it lacked a ton of polish, but it is content complete already
Elemental damage would be great as well. Those shock grenades could be thrown in water and kill anyone in it, and the return of Fire bombs and flamethrower would be sick. Changing the base attributes of weapon fire would also shake up the formula without being too far out there for Halo.
Thinking about it, but let's say rain is a dynamic element. You could see puddles form where an enemy camp is, take a shock rifle and zap enemies from afar. Or there is overgrowth and fire can get rid of it opening up a new passage to explore, or you could just burn a forest down like a pyro maniac.
One Bungie Weekly Update spent about 1,000 words describing the liquidity and buoyancy of the in-game water, and how the sound adapted when the camera would drop below its surface. That's when I fell off the deep-end over that game. I remember that opening night of the BETA, getting in via fucking Crackdown. Those were the days.
I hope so as well. They need to bring back the 60 Round AR from Halo CE.