In light of Dragon Quest XI S's poor sales, I'd like to see the Western DQ fanbase get loud and remind Square that we love the franchise.

Oregano · Nov 17, 2019

Lothars said:
I don't agree it still could happen

I think a new SKU would be more likely, and a PS5 version at that. Keep in mind that a lot of additions for DQXIS were for the benefit of the Japanese market where DQXI was 2 years old by the time DQXIS released. It would probably be closer to 3 years old by the time the hypothetical DLC would release and that would be pretty pointless.

Tyaren · Nov 17, 2019

Even though Switch got the by far best version. :/ I'm still a little salty PS4 and PC versions are so inferior and will probably stay that way.

Lothars · Nov 17, 2019

Oregano said:
I think a new SKU would be more likely, and a PS5 version at that. Keep in mind that a lot of additions for DQXIS were for the benefit of the Japanese market where DQXI was 2 years old by the time DQXIS released. It would probably be closer to 3 years old by the time the hypothetical DLC would release and that would be pretty pointless.

fiendcode said:
I think PS5/Scarlett ports of DQXIS are far more likely. Horii isn't a fan of backporting as DLC so new platform releases (at $60) is a better bet.

That's a possibility as well, I just don't see them leaving the other platforms out, I'll be curious to see what happens because they need to get better with making sure older versions get the content as well.

Oregano · Nov 17, 2019

Lothars said:
That's a possibility as well, I just don't see them leaving the other platforms out.

I can see it if they want to close the book on the project and move on, considering how many iterations they've had to produce. In terms of the original release as well you've got to keep in mind that pretty much half of the 4 million it sold was from the JP exclusive 3DS version and there's no chance they're updating that.

Lothars · Nov 17, 2019

Oregano said:
I can see it if they want to close the book on the project and move on, considering how many iterations they've had to produce. In terms of the original release as well you've got to keep in mind that pretty much half of the 4 million it sold was from the JP exclusive 3DS version and there's no chance they're updating that.

That is true, if they do I hope going forward they are better with not leaving platforms behind, it's frustrating and seems like they are dropping the ball especially when things can be added as DLC.

mutantmagnet · Nov 17, 2019

SolicitorPirate said:
I don't understand why it seems to constantly surprise people when Dragon Quest underperforms in the West.

DQ's main appeal in Japan is nostalgia and it's place as a cultural touchstone. These factors wholly nonexistent in the West. Everything about DQ, from its systems to its aesthetic just makes it seem old and outdated. That's fine for existing fans, since many of the, are looking precisely for that nostalgic throwback, but for people with no history or fondness for that era of JRPGs, DQ just looks fucking boring

The aesthetic angle makes no sense in certain ways and does make sense in other ways.

The unending problem with Dragonquest in how it markets itself is that they hide all the cool shit. Every Dragonquest game box art has slimes. Every Dragonquest screenshot in popular games media are typically starting zones or very safe aesthetic designs.

This mundane way they market it makes it unappealing. But get past that trap and I think Dragonquest can do really well.

DBZ defined western artstyle for a decade. There is zero chance people aren't at least lukewarm to Dragonquest art. Dragonquest does have interesting environment and enemy designs that blows away a lot of Dragonball. They just don't market it.

Chrono78 · Nov 17, 2019

I triple-dipped buying all three versions. I prefer playing JRPGs on the Switch.

Gotdatmoney · Nov 17, 2019

Lothars said:
I don't agree it still could happen

Its a possibility but I dont see them going through the effort for basically no additional sales at this point.

I see a new sku as more likely for next gen.

fiendcode · Nov 17, 2019

Oregano said:
I can see it if they want to close the book on the project and move on, considering how many iterations they've had to produce. In terms of the original release as well you've got to keep in mind that pretty much half of the 4 million it sold was from the JP exclusive 3DS version and there's no chance they're updating that.

Don't be so sure, I could see the 3DS version getting warmed up for iOS & Android.

Lothars said:
That's a possibility as well, I just don't see them leaving the other platforms out, I'll be curious to see what happens because they need to get better with making sure older versions get the content as well.

Leaving other platforms out is like SE's modus operandi. I think "nothing" is probably the most likely outcome for getting the S content and changes elsewhere anytime in the next several years.

sora bora · Nov 17, 2019

Oregano said:
I think a new SKU would be more likely, and a PS5 version at that. Keep in mind that a lot of additions for DQXIS were for the benefit of the Japanese market where DQXI was 2 years old by the time DQXIS released. It would probably be closer to 3 years old by the time the hypothetical DLC would release and that would be pretty pointless.

Tyaren said:
Even though Switch got the by far best version. :/ I'm still a little salty PS4 and PC versions are so inferior and will probably stay that way.

This contrast of opinion is curious to me. My intent is not to initiate DF-esque tech comparison. Instead, it's balancing the increased graphically fidelity of the PS4 Pro release vis a vis whatever was added/gained on the Switch release. I'm essentially ignorant on the latter, which has somewhat paralyzed a purchase.

ShinNL · Nov 17, 2019

When I bought the game the only thing I could think of:

Which idiots decided on such a terrible box art? Was their goal to sell 0 copies?

This is just so bad. It looks like an expensive joke to me. I can't wrap my mind around this. I'm 100% sure it's losing a huge percentage of sales for the box art alone.

MegaMix · Nov 17, 2019

The game is a late port of a title that came out a year ago.

Definitive re-releases tend to not do well unless it's released year after to gain interest in people double dipping.

ShinNL said:
When I bought the game the only thing I could think of:

Which idiots decided on such a terrible box art? Was their goal to sell 0 copies?

This is just so bad. It looks like an expensive joke to me. I can't wrap my mind around this. I'm 100% sure it's losing a huge percentage of sales for the box art alone.

I like it.

Andri · Nov 17, 2019

Funniest thing will be when Square ignores Switch for DQ12 in japan, sees lackluster sales on PS5/PC, and then does not bother to bring it overseas because not even Japanese PC/PS5 players bought it.

PancakeFlip · Nov 17, 2019

Archduke Kong said:
Honestly, I think they Dragon Quest'd people out this year. XIS, Builders 2, Hero in Smash, all within a few months of each other (July - September), and then we got a surprise drop of the original trilogy in that time span too. That's a lot of one series in a short span of time, even if all of that content was aimed at different audiences. At least for me, that plus the REALLY heavy marketing push felt like overkill and I was exhausted by exposure to the series before I even really had the chance to soak in what they were trying to show me.

Its not like they're coming door to door putting guns to out heads and forcing us to buy every title at once.

fiendcode · Nov 17, 2019

Andri said:
Funniest thing will be when Square ignores Switch for DQ12 in japan, sees lackluster sales on PS5/PC, and then does not bother to bring it overseas because not even Japanese PC/PS5 players bought it.

DQX and DQXI sold the most on Nintendo hardware, and the series record holder is still DQIX on Nintendo hardware.

It might not be Switch but there's no question DQXII will be on a Nintendo platform too.

Herb Alpert · Nov 17, 2019

ShinNL said:
When I bought the game the only thing I could think of:

Which idiots decided on such a terrible box art? Was their goal to sell 0 copies?

This is just so bad. It looks like an expensive joke to me. I can't wrap my mind around this. I'm 100% sure it's losing a huge percentage of sales for the box art alone.

I like this box art

Glio · Nov 17, 2019

ShinNL said:
When I bought the game the only thing I could think of:

Which idiots decided on such a terrible box art? Was their goal to sell 0 copies?

This is just so bad. It looks like an expensive joke to me. I can't wrap my mind around this. I'm 100% sure it's losing a huge percentage of sales for the box art alone.

What's wrong?

Andri · Nov 17, 2019

fiendcode said:
DQX and DQXI sold the most on Nintendo hardware, and the series record holder is still DQIX on Nintendo hardware.

It might not be Switch but there's no question DQXII will be on a Nintendo platform too.

I know DQ sells best on Nintendo hardware.
But i still think Square will keep chasing that AAA big graphics dream, and in doing so ignore the by then probably 20m+ switches in Japan, and pick the 2-4m PS5s as the platform of choice, with maybe some PC sprinkled in if they can be bothered.

Glio · Nov 17, 2019

Andri said:
I know DQ sells best on Nintendo hardware.
But i still think Square will keep chasing that AAA big graphics dream, and in doing so ignore the by then probably 20m+ switches in Japan, and pick the 2-4m PS5s as the platform of choice, with maybe some PC sprinkled in if they can be bothered.

Well, when they fail, they can only blame themselves.

fiendcode · Nov 17, 2019

Andri said:
I know DQ sells best on Nintendo hardware.
But i still think Square will keep chasing that AAA big graphics dream, and in doing so ignore the by then probably 20m+ switches in Japan, and pick the 2-4m PS5s as the platform of choice, with maybe some PC sprinkled in if they can be bothered.

With how DQXI sold on PS4 globally this is guaranteed not to happen. Horii said DQ had to go multi if it was going to stay on consoles and that won't be changing. DQXII is more likely to be an iOS/Android game than it isa PS5/PC only game.

molnizzle · Nov 17, 2019

ShinNL said:
When I bought the game the only thing I could think of:

Which idiots decided on such a terrible box art? Was their goal to sell 0 copies?

This is just so bad. It looks like an expensive joke to me. I can't wrap my mind around this. I'm 100% sure it's losing a huge percentage of sales for the box art alone.

No. Get out. This is how we get shit like the atrocious PS4 box art in the US.

i-Jest · Nov 17, 2019

Contrary to popular belief, not everything sells gang busters on Switch or will find a wider audience. Maybe the demo did its thing TO WELL, and curious consumers got their fill of Dragon Quest. Maybe not enough of the fan base has the console and bought the game. Maybe the mainstream gaming audience got its JRPG fix with Octopath Traveler, and don't care to explore other games in the genre on Switch. Maybe the series, or XIS specifically, just isn't a big enough deal in peoples eyes that their willing to drop other gaming commitments to buy a copy when it mattered the most. Regardless we still don't have proper numbers to know otherwise.

Bought my copy at launch for both PS4 and Switch. I did my part, but in the end I guess it just wasn't enough. I still wish we got the 3DS version. Dragon Quest X may just remain a dream localization.

DanarchyReigns said:
I bought PS4 and Switch. What else was I supposed to do?

You did your part.

Quinton said:
Thanks for lumping me in nebulously with a community consciousness! But I contest that every little bit helps with this stuff. This isn't about moving mountains; anyone who thinks it would cause a major shift is kidding themselves, whether that's some cosmic "Era bubble" mentality or just a few fans. It's simply about making a little noise, which can help. It's the same thing with television shows facing cancellation. Wildly different scenario? Yes. Did it help The Expanse's somewhat improbable Amazon revival chances that the fanbase flew an airplane over Amazon HQ with #SaveTheExpanse trailing behind the engine? You bet.

Sometimes it's a tiny bit useful to remind a company that a certain product may have a relatively slim consumer base but it's a fiercely devoted one.

I'm somewhat reminded of Operation Rainfall after reading this.

Rattlethyhead said:
People keep talking about how horrible the sales were for this game. And how it bombed. I actually believe that's inaccurate. I was watching it stay in the top ten on the eshop for at least three weeks of not more. Number five or six to be exact. I believe the digital version did better than anyone is expecting.

That's certainly something to keep in mind.

Aestivalis said:
To people saying they should launch it simultaneously, it was simply impossible.
They had a lot of pressure to have the game out in 2017, to appease the outrage at home that game was not released as part of the 30th anniversary.
And then UE4 was not ready for Switch until mid 2017, two months before the set release date. No fool is going to migrate such a big project to a newer engine version at that point.

Never knew that about UE4, GOOD POINT.

MysticGon said:
Kind messages matter to the team of hardworking developers and the gaming press. But if it doesn't translate to sales the suits might not care sadly.

OP might disagree with you but money certainly talks.

ShinNL · Nov 17, 2019

MegaMix said:
I like it.

Herb Alpert said:
I like this box art

Glio said:
What's wrong?

molnizzle said:
No. Get out. This is how we get shit like the atrocious PS4 box art in the US.

You're all part of the problem.

Much better. Come at me!

molnizzle · Nov 17, 2019

ShinNL said:
You're all part of the problem.

Much better. Come at me!

So you don't like Dragon Quest. Okay.

Aadiboy · Nov 17, 2019

Hopefully they just upres DQXIS to 4k and slap that port onto the PS5 for quick money.

piratethingy · Nov 17, 2019

Voke said:
It should've released on PS4 and Switch simultaneously. It was honestly idiotic to release the 'definitive edition' exclusively on a different platform a year after western release.

Yup. I spent $60 on DQ11 when it came out and feel absolutely burned by 11s. Now I'll probably never go back and finish the "incomplete" version that I have an can't even pay extra to upgrade and the next Dragon Quest game they try to sell me will have to overcome huge default skepticism.

Mobu · Nov 17, 2019

ShinNL said:
When I bought the game the only thing I could think of:

Which idiots decided on such a terrible box art? Was their goal to sell 0 copies?

This is just so bad. It looks like an expensive joke to me. I can't wrap my mind around this. I'm 100% sure it's losing a huge percentage of sales for the box art alone.

the box art is trash but is 90% due to the shitty coloring

Elandyll · Nov 17, 2019

PlanetSmasher said:
Delaying PS4 would've probably been the better call. Late ports of JRPGs are just never, ever, ever performance successes. The market for JRPGs isn't THAT big, and pissing people off by releasing a BETTER version down the line just discourages users from even bothering with EITHER version.

But the game released on both 3DS and PS4 simultaneously, so all it would likely have done is swap between platforms, not overall sell more.

The game did fine on Ps4/ 3ds and later PC I think.

The Switch just released at odds with a game whose development started in 2013, and I imagine that if it hadn't been for the influence of Nintendo (and some $$ to get additional content?) the Switch would have likely been bypassed entirely or received a much later port. I mean, the console was officially revealed in late 2016, having had unofficial rumblings only in 2015 (under the name NX).

Blame Nintendo for fumbling hard with the WiuU if anything.

Quinton · Nov 17, 2019

This thread's kind of blown up more than I'd anticipated. I'll need to go through all the replies when I find time.

Herb Alpert · Nov 17, 2019

ShinNL said:
You're all part of the problem.

Much better. Come at me!

Yeah no, I prefer the switch one.

XaviConcept · Nov 17, 2019

Weird to say it sold poorly without numbers, right? Its a very late port and from most outlets, XI is the best the franchise has ever done in the US.

Plus, its not like Square is running a charity. Its a premier IP and in no risk of going away in the West, dont keep falling for the PR that keeps asking for support OR ELSE.

Pineconn · Nov 17, 2019

The music in the cave in the demo gave me an honest to goodness earache. Like, actual pain. You just don't utilize dissonance like that. I couldn't even fathom how much worse the MIDI soundtrack is.

I deleted the demo after experiencing this horrid cacophony. It's a shame, too — I've never played DQ and I was interested in adding it to my repertoire. Oh well, lots of other games to play.

Celine · Nov 17, 2019

Quinton said:
Dragon Quest is quite clearly never going to break out in the West. Nintendo did a fine job pushing XI recently and the Switch userbase, on the whole, just did not seem to care. This is a console where Octopath Traveler has done great; I understand that some Switch owners already purchased DQXI on PS4, but I'd still expect the poor game to show up in the Switch hardware top 10 in its debut month. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't even think it did that. (Correction: SinCItyAssassin has indeed noted my mistake. It scored 7th for the Switch hardware in its debut month before dropping off the radar in October.)

Octopath Traveler broke 1M in the west after the Christmas quarter.
The better course of action is to wait for Nintendo's results in January or April 2020.

Pineconn said:
The music in the cave in the demo gave me an honest to goodness earache. Like, actual pain. You just don't utilize dissonance like that. I couldn't even fathom how much worse the MIDI soundtrack is.

I deleted the demo after experiencing this horrid cacophony. It's a shame, too — I've never played DQ and I was interested in adding it to my repertoire. Oh well, lots of other games to play.

I genuinely have no idea what you are referring to (about the music in the cave).

Where is the "horrid cacophony"?

https://youtu.be/BkdTCDJiaNU?t=159

NeonZ · Nov 17, 2019

mutantmagnet said:
DBZ defined western artstyle for a decade. There is zero chance people aren't at least lukewarm to Dragonquest art. Dragonquest does have interesting environment and enemy designs that blows away a lot of Dragonball. They just don't market it.

I think compared to DBZ, Dragon Quest's monsters (and the combat in general) aren't aggressive and flashy looking enough. The issue (in the West) isn't as much Toriyama's art specifically, but the overall design direction of the game as far as its visual identity goes.

Tibarn · Nov 17, 2019

So the game so far is performing worse than OT and Xc2 during the first weeks?

I'm kinda surprised about this, I didn't like DQ XI on PC that much and I consider one of the weakest games I've played recently, but even so I got the impression that most people loved it, that Nintendo did a good marketing for the game compared to what SE did for the original release, and IIRC the game has good critic scores.

Ryutaryi · Nov 17, 2019

Square Enix's decisions to create late ports of games with exclusive content has really been killing my desire to pick up their games lately. Holding resetting classes in FF XII to a second $60, and creating new content for a port nearly a year after the fact for another $60 is kinda insulting. I got the PS4 version for my brother for Christmas so he had something light to play during his injury, and with S I feel like I gave him an inferior version because I didn't wait.

If they wanted sales they shouldn't do this with niche RPGs (for the west). It doesn't give me confidence in them for future titles.

ArkhamFantasy · Nov 17, 2019

Ryutaryi said:
Square Enix's decisions to create late ports of games with exclusive content has really been killing my desire to pick up their games lately. Holding resetting classes in FF XII to a second $60, and creating new content for a port nearly a year after the fact for another $60 is kinda insulting. I got the PS4 version for my brother for Christmas so he had something light to play during his injury, and with S I feel like I gave him an inferior version because I didn't wait.

If they wanted sales they shouldn't do this with niche RPGs (for the west). It doesn't give me confidence in them for future titles.

I agree with your overall point, but they had to wait for UE4 to update before they could port it to the switch.

404LinkNotFound · Nov 17, 2019

ShinNL said:
When I bought the game the only thing I could think of:

Which idiots decided on such a terrible box art? Was their goal to sell 0 copies?

This is just so bad. It looks like an expensive joke to me. I can't wrap my mind around this. I'm 100% sure it's losing a huge percentage of sales for the box art alone.

This looks great tho

Deleted member 57758 · Nov 17, 2019

ShinNL said:
When I bought the game the only thing I could think of:

Which idiots decided on such a terrible box art? Was their goal to sell 0 copies?

This is just so bad. It looks like an expensive joke to me. I can't wrap my mind around this. I'm 100% sure it's losing a huge percentage of sales for the box art alone.

This is the worst take lol

Tora · Nov 17, 2019

Did this really sell poorly? :(

After playing pokemon for 3 hours I had enough and went back to DQ11; it's so much more polished graphically/animations/battle system etc etc

Story is excellent and the voice acting is great 30 hours in, these games deserve to sell well. I'm on board with the DQ franchise now.

IamFlying · Nov 17, 2019

ShinNL said:
When I bought the game the only thing I could think of:

Which idiots decided on such a terrible box art? Was their goal to sell 0 copies?

This is just so bad. It looks like an expensive joke to me. I can't wrap my mind around this. I'm 100% sure it's losing a huge percentage of sales for the box art alone.

Idiotic boxart. Looks like a amateur draw it.

The game is so beautiful designed why did they choose such a poor boxart.

Tora said:
Did this really sell poorly? :(

We have no sales data. Op just assumed it sold poorly for whatever reasons.

Yeshua · Nov 17, 2019

Celine said:
Octopath Traveler broke 1M in the west after the Christmas quarter.
The better course of action is to wait for Nintendo's results in January or April 2020.

Wouldn't Nintendo only communicate on DQXIS if it sell 1 million in the west since elsewhere it's published by Square Enix. It's fairly improbable, given it's a late port, for DQXIS to sell as well as DQVIII & DQIX in the west, in my opinion we are more likely to get information through Square Enix results than Nintendo.

Agent Unknown · Nov 17, 2019

Seems to be a bit of overreacting here, DQ never does outstanding sales in the west and wasn't SE happy with PS4 and PC sales at least? That should be something by itself, seems as though XI S was like an additional gift to western fans much in the same vein as DQ 7 and 8 being brought over to 3DS. As long as both Nintendo and Sony are committed to seeing DQ series on their respective platforms then we should continue to see Dragon Quest western releases, missteps by SE aside.

In any case, I bought both the PS4 LE and XI S so I did my part. :D

ShinNL said:
When I bought the game the only thing I could think of:

Which idiots decided on such a terrible box art? Was their goal to sell 0 copies?

This is just so bad. It looks like an expensive joke to me. I can't wrap my mind around this. I'm 100% sure it's losing a huge percentage of sales for the box art alone.

Wow, no offense but you have horrible taste. It's classic, fun Toriyama art and the "Hell yeah!!!" enthusiasm and energy of the characters cheering in the pic is infectious. This is about as stupid as dumping on the timeless cover art for Chrono Trigger. There's a reason that was the default cover art on the PS4 LE copies.

Celine · Nov 17, 2019

Yeshua said:
Wouldn't Nintendo only communicate on DQXIS if it sell 1 million in the west since elsewhere it's published by Square Enix. It's fairly improbable, given it's a late port, for DQXIS to sell as well as DQVIII & DQIX in the west, in my opinion we are more likely to get information through Square Enix results than Nintendo.

Well, the thread discussion was about western sales and since it was impossible for DQXIS to break 1M as September 2019 all I suggested was to wait for the Nintendo's results in January or April 2020 because by that time we will get a clearer picture.

Firima · Nov 17, 2019

Andri said:
Funniest thing will be when Square ignores Switch for DQ12 in japan, sees lackluster sales on PS5/PC, and then does not bother to bring it overseas because not even Japanese PC/PS5 players bought it.

Given the Switch's current install base compared to the PS4's in Japan, I suspect it'll actually be the lead platform next time around. Square may be dumb, but they're not brainless.

Andri · Nov 17, 2019

Firima said:
Given the Switch's current install base compared to the PS4's in Japan, I suspect it'll actually be the lead platform next time around. Square may be dumb, but they're not brainless.

DQ11s lead platform was PS4, which then had about 1/3 of the installbase of 3DS in japan.
They clearly wanted to get a result closer to what MHW experienced(aka massive overseas sales that compensate for picking the less popular system in japan), and they will most likely try for it again.

Cheerilee · Nov 17, 2019

Mobu said:
the box art is trash but is 90% due to the shitty coloring

The other 10% is busyness.

- A bunch of grey-looking characters. (With one token energetic child.)
- On an incredibly busy-looking background of grey rocks.
- An odd doodle-ghost. The bug and lizard details don't seem worth mentioning.
- Oh hey, did you notice that purple-grey guy with the grey alter-boy haircut is literally waving the flag of grey? It's hard to tell behind the incredibly busy logo.
- Sonic the Hedgehog wants no part of purple-grey guy's rallying cry. Neither does serious-girl.

- It says "Dragon Quest", but the "t" in Quest is a sword.
- The Roman numeral XI is hiding behind the name.
- A picture of a dragon making a sonic boom with his flame is behind the name and number.
- "Echoes of an Elusive Age"
- "---Definitive Edition---" (Umm... no.)
- "S". Does the "S" belong after "Echoes of an Elusive Age" or "Definitive Edition"? Uhh, it belongs sideways?

The PS4 box art, on the other hand...

- Purple-clad guy with a Dragon Quest sword.
- Green-clad ponytail fighter-girl with a halberd.
- Thief dual-wielding knives.
- Some kid wearing red.
- An obvious merchant.
- The body language of the front three characters imply that you're the sixth member of the party, and that they're waiting for you to catch up.

- They're overlooking a Yggdrasil tree, off in the distance, which is apparently at the center of the game's conflict, with a light/dark split that's trying to do the blue/orange thing of hollywood posters.
- A dragon seems to be on the side of light, with a horde of flying monsters on the side of dark.

I wouldn't say that the Switch boxart is bad, or that the PS4 boxart is great, but the PS4 boxart seems more deliberate and seems to be trying harder, for the newcomers and the Dragon Quest faithful alike.

Lothars · Nov 17, 2019

Andri said:
DQ11s lead platform was PS4, which then had about 1/3 of the installbase of 3DS in japan.
They clearly wanted to get a result closer to what MHW experienced(aka massive overseas sales that compensate for picking the less popular system in japan), and they will most likely try for it again.

Plus it makes more sense developing for the more power platforms and than making it run well on the switch after.

breakYODAy · Nov 17, 2019

I've got it on my Christmas list this year. Hopefully it can manage to sell decently long term.

Yeshua · Nov 17, 2019

Celine said:
Well, the thread discussion was about western sales and since it was impossible for DQXIS to break 1M as September 2019 all I suggested was to wait for the Nintendo's results in January or April 2020 because by that time we will get a clearer picture.

Breaking 1 million in the west isn't necessary for the game to be a success and imo unlikely to happen, if Nintendo report the game over 1 million in the West it would be a big success however if the don't report any number it won't mean anything as the game sell might have been good, bad or so-so. If Square Enix in their results communicate a worldwide shipment for DQIXS it would give us a rough idea of how much the game sold in the west.

In light of Dragon Quest XI S's poor sales, I'd like to see the Western DQ fanbase get loud and remind Square that we love the franchise.

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