Dane Cook would never crack wise at the expense of shooting victims!
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We need a new term to describe giving sexual assault a pass because the person isn't Weinstein. Like some neo-Godwin's Law bullshit.
where is it? I'd like to hear itI went and found the full set, some decent stuff, didn't laugh at most of it though, but that's pretty normal for me and most comedy sets
I enjoyed CK when I thought he was working to satirize male impulses.
When I found out he was just making jokes about his own behavior without much self-critique, well, that lost my respect.
I'm not giving it a pass, nor am I attempting to down-play it. I'm just mentioning that one is worse than the other.
Holy Shit this is accurate!
A Louis CK and Dennis Miller dual bill could sell out the biggest megachurch in Texas
lol. come on. If being ignorant or offensive is a trait of right-wing comedy then every comic must be a secret conservative.All three of those aspects are pretty consistent parts of right wing comedy. Like someone said earlier, all he's missing here is the attack helicopter jab.
Just going off the transcript, but that trans joke not only sounds lazy its own right but is also hard to square with the same guy who handled transphobia in such an exponentially more thoughtful way on Horace and Pete too.I don't even recognise it as the same person.
The subject matter is clearly different, but even the delivery and technique is totally different, and far lazier.
Except that there's no reason to bring up Weinstein up in the first place unless you're trying to compare the two to make CK look better. Weinstein wasn't as bad as Cosby either, but I wouldn't go into a thread about him and make a post talking about how they're "nowhere near equivalent".I'm not giving it a pass, nor am I attempting to down-play it. I'm just mentioning that one is worse than the other.
No, you don't have your facts straight, and even if he did ask permission you need to realize the power dynamic and even if that wasn't there how just asking a woman if you can masturbate in front of her puts her in an incredibly uncomfortable position, you just don't do that. These were not women he was romantically involved with or anything, they were cooworkers and aspiring people in their respective crafts in some cases, with one of the world's top standup acts putting them on the spot, so you're still incredibly wrong.Maybe I don't have my facts straight? From what I knew, he asked permission, and they said yes. I guess the events played out differently though.
Sarah Silverman also came to his defense. She allowed Louis to masturbate in front of her on more than one occasion. I probably could've phrased my thoughts better. I guess that wasn't the case with everyone.
Wasnt aware how many transphobes we had on this site.
There's no reason to turn sexual assault into a competition.I'm not giving it a pass, nor am I attempting to down-play it. I'm just mentioning that one is worse than the other.
Why? We all know what they both did? Who are you trying to convince other than yourself?
Except, y'know, in 2005, more folks were giving shitty, edgy, offensive comedy a pass. It ain't 2005 anymore, and honestly, thank god for that.Damn, he's still got it!
Honestly, this is milder than his old stuff. By far. He has this one set from 2005 where he just jumps from awful subject to awful subject and I think it's far more offensive than this.
EDIT: here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv8d_ry-u-Q&t=521s
the entire bit is just "owning the libs"It's very bad, but it's not "right wing". It's just cateringly offensive, ignorant, and very lazy. I think calling it right wing is a bit of a stretch.
Yeah, but just a specific type of it. I believe it's normally referred to as punching up/punching down.lol. come on. If being ignorant or offensive is a trait of right-wing comedy
Yep. I respect the hell out of him for that show and everyone else involved. Everyone should give it a watch but that ship has sailed for many.Just going off the transcript, but that trans joke not only sounds lazy its own right but is hard to square with the same guy who handled transphobia in an exponentially more thoughtful way on Horace and Pete.
Except, y'know, in 2005, more folks were giving shitty, edgy, offensive comedy a pass. It ain't 2005 anymore, and honestly, thank god for that.
Yeah as I was listening to it, jesus CHRIST at the bolded. Just when I thought he couldn't get worse than the previous things he mocks shooting victims. Fuck him.- Talks about how when he was a teen or in his early 20's he was doing crazy shit and he couldn't wait until he got into his 50's so he could call kids out for being crazy. But those kids aren't crazy, instead they're calling out others for saying stupid shit
- Complains about people wanting to be identified a certain way
- Complains about the Parkland Kids speaking in front of college. Says that they have nothing important to say and it's not like they got shot, they just pushed some fat kid in front of them
There are no actual jokes in it.
The difference is context. In the past it was like the whole thing was meta... he was satirizing the disgusting pov. But now we know he was actually getting off on it.This is exactly in line with his pre sex predator standup, he's not pivoting to become an alt right comic, this is the type of humor he's always done.
A lot of his catalog is low-hanging fruit and then it's all about his delivery. It's too 'I can see it coming a mile a way' for me.
I know he's done a shitton of outlandish bits, I'm sure Google can help ya out.
owning the libs one shitpost at a time, I guessImagine coming into this thread and aligning yourself with the guy in the crowd who yells "YEAH FUCK 'EM" about transgendered people.
Imagine being that ResetERA poster.
This is exactly in line with his pre sex predator standup, he's not pivoting to become an alt right comic, this is the type of humor he's always done.
pandering to the right is as easy as it gets as far as comedy goes. literally all you need to do is bash esh jay dub-yuhs and be met with raucous applause. sure, you'll never be as popular as you would be if you made jokes that were actually funny. but you'll get paid. you'll get by.
oh do please expand. tell me more.Could you imagine if THIS audio was in the OP? The outrage would be tenfold.
When you have to start a bit with "Back in my day..." you are washed.The transphobic joke was pure trash. It's like something a dumbass uncle would say at Thanksgiving.
He sounds like a Rush Limbaugh caller now.