Well, Ubi own platform is growing up as well. We'll see how things go, i think that at least for a while they will just stick to their platform.
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In 2020 Steam had more monthly active users than PSN and Xbox Live.
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Assuming, and I'm just speculating, hear me out, in my opinion, if Epic stops paying Ubisoft to NOT release its games on Steam and 3rd party key sellers, and lets not forget, Ubisoft not only left Steam, they stopped selling its games everywhere except Uplay and EGS, They gladly would sell their games on Steam and 3rd party key sellers again.
Yeah the growth rate and amount of content each year will definitely matter in this case.
I'm more interested in what'll happen to Chinese players when Steam China is 100% out. Will they lose access to "normal" Steam? If so this will be a huge HUGE detriment to PC devs in general, especially indies. Before Steamspy went to shit you could see that there were indie darlings where 50% of its sales came from China. Losing all these customers would be catastrophic
It'd be more shocking if it wasn't, no?
Free client download, no monthly membership fee, and Steam is full of free to play games.
Free client download, no monthly membership fee, and Steam is full of free to play games.
From December's hardware survey, 28% of players used Steam in simplified Chinese, while 34% did so in English.
User Banned (1 month): Xenophobic stereotyping
Wow, that's a huge percentage. Hopefully some are having fun and not just farming in game loot.
I don't get the uncle/grandma memes.
But as someone who was one of the original public to sign up for Steam when it was back in beta with CS, like... almost 20 years ago, I'm amazed, amazed it's lasted this long and is as strong as ever.
But as someone who was one of the original public to sign up for Steam when it was back in beta with CS, like... almost 20 years ago, I'm amazed, amazed it's lasted this long and is as strong as ever.
It was someone at old place who would attribute Steam users records to his uncle installing steam and using auto login and that bloats number of users on Steam and thus not being records at all.
Oh, well as an almost 20 year member of steam let me be the first to tell you that my Mac auto-launches steam whenever I start up my computer and I have not played a computer game on any of my machines in like 11 years.
I AM AN UNCLE but not a grandma
that dude was RIGHT
So you installed Steam everytime you changed your PC despite not playing games with it
Weird.
Yeah, it says a lot about people who keep asking those questions. :p
But EGS happened, and Ubisoft bailed out. I remember there were some "concern" conversations about Steam's situation back then.
That's very much the known unknown surrounding Steam China, whether the Chinese government deem it a good enough excuse to block off regular Steam. Valve has said that they have no intentions of blocking off China from regular Steam on their end, but it's very much not their decision to make.
I was clearly kidding, but yeah, pretty much. I've got it installed even though I haven't seriously played a game on a computer in 10 years. I've only changed my computer twice since 2010 though.
Every once in a while I launch steam for mac and see the same games that were featured in like 2013 and then close the app.
I find this totally unsurprising. Even setting aside the tens of millions of Chinese players, I know plenty of people who barely play games and have steam and sometimes use it. Like tons of college students with laptops and no consoles. I would have been totally shocked if Steam wasn't bigger.
Do you know of any people that frequently play games on Steam?
Yeah? I don't have that many friends who play a lot of PC games but I have several that will regularly play Dota or Civ or something alongside the occasional indie if they get interested.
No wonder Sony is getting involved with Steam.
When did you have a shave?!
When did you have a shave?!
lmao changed it yesterday!No wonder Sony is getting involved with Steam.
When did you have a shave?!
No friends that do the bulk of their multiplatform gaming on PC?
then you would not be counted in the MAU numbers as you are not an active user, simply a prankster uncle
Tomorrow's prankster uncles are savvier. They're going to be playing all your games via remote play while you're busy at school or work. All bets are off after that
I don't have that many friends that play a ton of games to begin with like I don't actually know anyone with a "good" PC. Most of the people who I know who have Steam use it fairly casually and don't own any (modern) consoles except for a few Switches. The number of people with a recent normal console is also really low since most people I know who used to own them dropped gaming after high school. Not claiming that my friends are a good representative sample but that is my experience.
Cool, thanks for answering, I was curious about the type of gaming environment you were in.
Persona 4 is all I've been playing on steam for like 5 months now lol. It's just got so much of everything and it's compatibility and accessibility options are still unparalleled with other competitors not even bothering to try to compete in that front.
Yeah I'm surprised no one mentioned this. Pretty sure stuff like LoL and Crossfire(that almost no one knew about in the west) dwarfed consoles for years.
This is very interesting stuff. Among my online friends, everyone has a PC, but in the real world, the only people I know who game on PCs (or even have PCs) are my cousin's kid and a co-workers kid, both around 10 years old.
All current generation and mobile Minecraft players count as "Xbox Live" users except for the original PC version (Java Edition). Java Edition is probably the most popular version of the game though.
As someone who couldn't give less of a fuck about platform sparring, how is it calculated for Steam and MAU?
The way companies calculate it can differ significantly from just being signed in to interacting directly with elements, so it's interesting to know. It doesn't change the fact that PC Gaming is obviously a juggernaut, which was never really under any doubt in my mind lol. Steam has been pretty open about stats, just unsure if that's come with any open documentation on the specifics.
I didn't believe it at first. But it is believable steam has more mau's with the inclusion of China.
