Or see the movie and make up your own mind. I can't damn a movie I haven't seen yet. Relax people.
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Impressions for M.Night Shyamalan's Glass incoming
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Or see the movie and make up your own mind. I can't damn a movie I haven't seen yet. Relax people.
From people that have seen it M Night treats it like a big twist
The first 2/3 of the movie you have no idea that's what is going on and when its presented in the film its treated like this big revelation
It's a Twsit, and stupid at the same time
split was just decent to me, and the twist was actually kinda clunkily handled, even if it was effective simply because i've been an Unbreakable mark.
m. night just doesn't have much of an ear for good dialogue.
His dialog is traditionally the worst part of his films. It's very self aware and congratulatory... and frequently under directed.
It's "clever" writing for dummies, basically.
Considering he went on to explain his logic, it's now the beginning of a new copypasta
The review reaction (non spoiler ones, I am trying to be careful) sound like the 2nd half is a wreck and the twist is polarizing. That actually makes me want to witness the wreck in theater.
edit: let me clarify, what makes it double funny to me is that James Macarvoy acts his tits off in bad movies.
edit: let me clarify, what makes it double funny to me is that James Macarvoy acts his tits off in bad movies.
Every goddamn review thread where the reviews are negative always turns into "actually the bad reviews make me MORE confident that this will be good". Like fuckin clockwork.
Please, no spoilers as to what the ending actually is, but generally speaking, is it a "I really don't like this choice but it doesn't contradict the logic of the movie world" or is it a "this is just ridicuously illogical" type of ending? For example, there are some movies where the killer is revealed to be someone at the end, but then if you rewatch it you see that that doesn't make sense based on what the character knows and does (that would be the illogical kind.)
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Neither. It seems to be more of a "that's it?" twist and ending than anything else. Mundane, old-hat Shamalamadingdong gotchas. Also I have heard that there is a lot of breaks in logic during the third act. It's not just the ending.
People have not been waiting for this for a decade.
We get it, he's Indian and you think he makes dumb choices. That joke is played and racist and it's been like 15 years.
because of these reviews and spoilers, i'm not going to pay $17 or whatever to see this movie
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I was pretty hyped for this. Unbreakable and Split were both great. There was a lot of buzz after The Visit and Split that Shyam had found his wheelhouse again freed from corporate expectations. I'm hoping I still like it, but it's good to go in with tempered expectations.
I was pretty hyped for this. Unbreakable and Split were both great. There was a lot of buzz after The Visit and Split that Shyam had found his wheelhouse again freed from corporate expectations. I'm hoping I still like it, but it's good to go in with tempered expectations.
Eh, we should have seen this coming. Split is a decent film, but it's not on the same plane of existence as Unbreakable. The latter is pure cinema. The cinematography, the tone, the amazing almost Hitchcockian score - it just reeks of classic film making. It's subdued, nothing feels cringy or forced.
I can't put my finger on it, but you know when sometimes you just can tell that something is written by Aaron Sorkin? It's the same with Shyamalan. People just act all weird, and the characters are just mouthpieces for the scriptwriter. It feels like cinematic show and tell, and every Shyamalan film since Signs has been getting progressively worse in this regard. Hopefully someone can put this into words better than myself, but I can't be alone in this.
This scene is a good example. It's just so fucking precious, like it's trying to hard or something.
I can't put my finger on it, but you know when sometimes you just can tell that something is written by Aaron Sorkin? It's the same with Shyamalan. People just act all weird, and the characters are just mouthpieces for the scriptwriter. It feels like cinematic show and tell, and every Shyamalan film since Signs has been getting progressively worse in this regard. Hopefully someone can put this into words better than myself, but I can't be alone in this.
This scene is a good example. It's just so fucking precious, like it's trying to hard or something.
Do any of you ever re-watch Unbreakable? I always get the impression that a lot of superfans of that movie were really young when they first watched it and haven't really re-watched with a critical eye.
The story in that movie is so unbelievably stupid.
It IS a fun movie to watch, I do enjoy it.. but people's expectations of M Night are just way too high. Split is also just a fun movie with a pretty stupid story. Maybe Glass is so over the top stupid and lacks the fun, but that's the risk you take with M Night.
The movie is going to be dumber than shit, but it might be fun to watch. Or it might be terrible. He's an interesting film maker and I'm glad he's around but his talent is hard to categorize.
The story in that movie is so unbelievably stupid.
It IS a fun movie to watch, I do enjoy it.. but people's expectations of M Night are just way too high. Split is also just a fun movie with a pretty stupid story. Maybe Glass is so over the top stupid and lacks the fun, but that's the risk you take with M Night.
The movie is going to be dumber than shit, but it might be fun to watch. Or it might be terrible. He's an interesting film maker and I'm glad he's around but his talent is hard to categorize.
Yeah - I think shitty, grandiose, self-aggrandizing Shyamalan is the real Shyamalan, and he can occasionally suppress that side of himself and concentrate and make something actually pretty good (as he did at the beginning of his career), but he can't suppress it forever and always ends up returning to that default.
What are you talking about? Yes they have, actually longer a ton of people love the original Unbreakable. I was hoping for a sequel since the day I saw it in the theatre
Oh God. I remember this scene bothering me so much as a kid. Military leader explains to us exactly what this outside force is doing (as if the audience couldn't surmise this some other, more subtle way), then a load of stuff which doesn't add up happens. This is typical M.Night here.
>Alien force is sent all over the world as a recon group. I guess the recon group neglected to inform the incoming force that the planet was made up primarily of a thing that would kill them. Mastery of interplanetary travel, but they simply don't know that a basic building block of life is literally everywhere here.
> The recruiter knows his homerun records & is a fan of the guy, but is completely unaware of his strikeout record? Pfft
I'd like to say this is surprising, but as you said, this is the kind of writing M. Night has been doing for years now.
I have recently. Funny thing is I didn't like it when I first saw it at the theater. On rewatch I loved it. It's aged incrediblely well.
I had the same experience because I was sort of an angsty 20-something when I watched it and couldn't fathom how such a dumb plot could make people so excited.
I do really enjoy the movie now, but it is a plot you have to REALLLLY turn your brain off for. Something I'm more than capable in my elderly years as I realized at some point that there is actually a skill to enjoying media. Some people are really bad at it, seam determined to hate as many things as possible, refuse to turn their brain off, etc.
But it's still just do dumb. It's dumb fun, but dumb. A man who is not only invicible, unable to get sick, but also has super-human strength and apparently has been this way his entire life.. doesn't realize it until he's like 40? lol
I remember people back in the day endlessly arguing with me about that refusing to budge on the idea that this was all really contrived. Contrived fun, but contrived. Which is basically M Night's modus operendi.
There's nothing wrong with that, but I can't help but feel people have been hugely disapointed in so many of his movies because they sort of blinded themselves to how blatantly dumb and contrived pretty much everything he's written has been. He just sometimes wraps it in a really fun movie to watch and other times fails at that.
I didn't like it because I thought it was dumb (it isn't) I just didn't get it. I expected a thriller and got a comic book movie. I didn't appreciate it until
later when Tarantino called it a masterpiece and what not and gave it a rewatch.
I've rewatched it at least 5 or 6 times.
I saw your later post explaining why you thought it was 'stupid'. Its not at all unreasonable to think that there are people just drifting through life, not really thinking critically or pushing their limits in any way.
Except he was a college football player who allegedly was good enough to possibly make a career out of it.
Think maybe he'd have, bench pressed before? I mean he had one in his basement lol
There is nothiong remotely reasnable about a person with super human strength who is basically invincible not noticing this fact.
Not trying to de-rail, you are welcome to rebut and I'll read it but I'll probably let this convo die for the sake of the thread.
In my opinion the entire story behind this trilogy is incredibly convoluted, yet it's been fun to watch. I am not surprised Glass apparently is also convoluted, but am disapointed so many fans do not find it fun to watch. However the fact most of these fans seem to think the previous story is a great plot actually gives me some hope, because I have no expectations of a good plot. Or at the very least I have no expectation of the plot not being pretty contrived under the lightest of examination.
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For some gifted athletes, they can just breeze through certain levels of sport.
If you've watched the scene more than once, its clear that it doesn't become easier for him to lift more weight, he just does. It's exactly the same amount of strain, like the limit is 10 pounds away....
As to injury; some people just get lucky. Some people are more resistant, or can deal better. When it comes to pain, our only real point of reference is ourselves.
So you're letting this convo die... Ok..... Maybe watch Unbreakable again with an open mind and not "this is so stupid, its dumb, I can't get into the characters head and try to understand someone who thinks differently than I do"
The most disappointing thing is if you look at MC , every single review is basically considered "mixed"
The dude didn't make an awful film , he just made well...a really disappointing one. The guy isn't a bad director in my book, his writing is where he just starts to really smell his own farts for a long time. His intentions don't seem to be terrible but it becomes that because of his need to hold on to a certain gimmick and not seek a more straight forward approach. His best movies had twists , sure, but they worked within the context of the film.
Only one movie where he didn't solely right himself was After Earth (Gary Whitta helped lol)
The dude didn't make an awful film , he just made well...a really disappointing one. The guy isn't a bad director in my book, his writing is where he just starts to really smell his own farts for a long time. His intentions don't seem to be terrible but it becomes that because of his need to hold on to a certain gimmick and not seek a more straight forward approach. His best movies had twists , sure, but they worked within the context of the film.
Only one movie where he didn't solely right himself was After Earth (Gary Whitta helped lol)
Yeah I agree, the dialogue in that scene is so forced and unnatural sounding.
Just read the spoilers.. Damn.
Its as if
Its as if
M Night just decided to systematically destroy this franchise rather than make something anyone would enjoy to watch. We would have been far better off if David DIDN'T show up at the end of Split, and neither film ever got a sequel. Hell this might even exceed Mass Effect 3 as a third "part" that actually retroactively ruins all the awesome that came before with a stupid ending.
SImply in the interest of not derailing; I would rather just keep it to my opinion that the past movies were really fun but IMO had sort of braindead plots. That tempers my expectation and hopefully allows me to be less disapointed in Glass. I know I asked people to challenge their opinions of the first movie's plot but realized after that could be a huge derail.
You're not going to have to worry about that. Based on the comments about the ending (not to mention the film's bad reviews in general), this is going to take a massive nose-dive after the opening weekend.
Either way, this movie cost all of $20 million. It'll turn a profit after its first few days in theaters, even if audiences dislike it as much as critics do.
I apologize for my previous post. I had no intention of insinuating any racial undertones with that spelling. I had just known it to be difficult to spell. But I'm sorry regardless. I recognize it was in poor taste.
If WoM is as bad as I think it'll be, we might even see a BvS-esque Friday to Saturday collapse so even its opening weekend might not be too good.
I think a zero, because you don't give credit for plagiarism when grading.
