They name dropped Graham? And Graham is still able to vote in this? lol... fuck me.
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They name dropped Graham? And Graham is still able to vote in this? lol... fuck me.
All of them are complicit, every single one of them has shit in the truck somewhere.
The US is a fucking third world country ruled by an unchecked dictator to me now, the most fucking embarrassing neighbor to have as a Canadian as well.
You've heard of Valve Time, but it pales in comparison to Congress Time!
If a Senator calls for a 15 minute break, see you in an hour. A 45 minute break? Clear 2 hours from your schedule!
I wish they'd all show up, then after trump starts talking they all get up and walk out.
The founding father's were revolutionaries. In the 1700's. Their thought was that at some point people should revolt if they want to fix things, and that no amount of law writing would completely prevent possible corruption or tyranny. That was, of course when the USA was merely half the east coast with a small population of several million, with no military drones or internet spying or CIA, or Fox News. The founding fathers couldn't have predicted what would happen and had hoped American's could revise the constitution as needed and keep their politicians in check.
Yeah, cause the Republican States of America had them on a burn list for 10+ years by then
Rear Admiral, huh? Yet another Veteran the Republicans will ignore.
any chance this long break is a good thing? That maybe some Senators are changing their minds about witnesses? wishful thinking I know
Damn the GOP has done a great job convincing people that witnesses in a Senate trial is some unheard of thing. That propaganda machine is humming
I know but I've been listening to 50 minutes of C-SPAN callers and my brain has melted
It was always going to be a long shot with the shape of the senate. We knew this before the articles of impeachment were released. When we got those weak articles... you may as well have called it a day. Obviously worth duking it out before the nation but nobody paying attention should be shocked and stunned that this isn't a slam dunk
Based on all the public polling, they haven't.
Sadly, that other 25% is enough to drive this farce.
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The fact that they can get away with this logic is terrifying... this is fundamentally broken.
I don't think that means much. 25% of those want the Bidens as witnesses, not relevant ones. The GOP aren't doing anything that their own voters aren't happy about. In fact, they're more likely not going far enough for a lot of their voters.
The election must propell a democrat into office. We all knew this was a longshot, and the main point needs to be that the Republicans are tied to a sinking moral carcass, and need to be punished at the voting box.
It's a good thing their voters alone can't win everything for them then.
WTF? Is not up to Trump's lawyers to determine if the senate should "do the work that the House didn't"..
And flip as much of the Senate as possible, and hopefully pick up some House seats as well.
In 30 years we will only read what the government tells us too while we all burn in a hellscape
How are Republicans gonna do that if they don't control the House.
The acquittal isn't what's demoralizing about this, it's the bald-faced refusal to even have the appearance of a fair trial. The Bolton leak changed everything because there's now a first hand witness who has said they're willing to testify to the Senate who we now know has information pertinent to the case and the majority of US Senators are voting that there's no need to hear what he has to say. There's incredibly pertinent information to the case that is easily obtainable by the Senate and they're deciding to just not hear it because they know it will prove that Trump is guilty.
I knew this wouldn't end with Trump removed from office but the way it has all ended up playing out is disgusting.
Apparently you have to talk and empathetic with him in order to make him see the light.
Still just arguing about the process.
If you don't have any substance to speak about, just complain about the process. They have literally nothing, and each of these senators know it.
If you don't have any substance to speak about, just complain about the process. They have literally nothing, and each of these senators know it.
They won't be able to launch shit. If a democrat actually wins and Trump gives up power, then no way the Republicans would gain enough (or any) seats in the House. They'll be in a war amongst themselves and can't do shit about the democratic president's work for at least 2 years. Judges are the only way that could get fucked up, and boy has the GOP done damage on that front in this presidency but hopefully there are at least enough somewhat reasonable judges out there to uphold the law of the land. And if there aren't, fuck it, republicans have shown you can do whatever the fuck you want if you have a majority in the Senate and a President on your side. So time to give them a taste of their own medicine with that shit, critics be damned and just brute force change until people realize how helpful things are.
What in the hell is Sekulow even talking about that they couldn't crossexamine these people?
Not to mention that these witnesses all testified together in like a week so again... what the hell is Sekulow talking about with "this is going to take a long time" shit
Not to mention that these witnesses all testified together in like a week so again... what the hell is Sekulow talking about with "this is going to take a long time" shit
They are trying to make the case that this is going to take a while to get to the truth so we better not call witnesses or y'all gonna be here a while.
He's trying to get at "rigged" impeachment trial to justify not calling witnesses and ignoring testimony. It's bullshit.
Sekulow is an idiot, just mute him anytime he comes up and save your sanity.