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Impeachment |OT|
- Thread starter Kaitos
- Start date
Exactly when and why did the president issue the hold, asked to the WH counsel. "uh it's not exactly but you know corruption". There was no oratory, they answered the question quickly and went back to the table.
That's a lot of heat for Romney of all people to put on them like that. Interesting
More power to him for putting on a show of concern I guess, but it's no secret what his ultimate vote is going to be.
Yep. Called out on clearly being a hypocrite and acts indignant. A decent dodge sadly.
Dershowitz always feels the need to defend his honor every time he stands up. I think he realizes that his stance is shit and everyone is seeing through it.
Fuck this guy is insane. So now Trump isn't trying to stop corruption in Ukraine, but protecting all of America from the potential evil of Biden taking over the US with is corrupt family?
WHAT IS GOING ON
WHAT IS GOING ON
For the love of God, is there a thinner straw that can be grasped than what Dershowitz was reaching for there?!
Schiff pops up every time to backhand Dershowitz in the face. His face is nothing but incredulous exasperation right now haha
We should really change how a sitting President should be charged of any crime.
They cam get away with anything if they control the house, stack the supreme court etc
They cam get away with anything if they control the house, stack the supreme court etc
Who seriously thought Dershowitz was a good idea? The dude has almost singlehandedly torn apart the entire defense. It's crazy how outlandish his arguments are. I'm starting to think there isn't a more dangerous 'intellectual' out there. The dude should be laughed out of any educative organization.
So far we heard the defense do the Chewbacca defense and calling the president's self-interest IS the national interest, AKA called monarchy or dictatorship.
this is insane the defense even would go to stupid lengths like this
this is insane the defense even would go to stupid lengths like this
They don't even have to control the House specifically. At the rate things are going and the plot is lost, then so long as the President's party controls either legislative body, they will never be removed from office.
Personally the one thing I do think should be taken out of this and maybe just maybe could actually see some life as a bill later down the line, post-Trump, would be some sort of legislature guaranteeing that any sort of judicial issue that winds up being raised in the service of an impeachment inquiry should take immediate precedence in the court and expedited to the "front of the line" to be ruled on immediately. If the ability were removed for a President and their team to drag out court issues for months via endless subpoena denials, then the need for the second article wouldn't have been there and a big cornerstone of the defense ("we have a third branch of government, the house should have gone through the courts to rule on witness subpoenas instead of giving up and chalking it up as an impeachment article") would have been taken away. An impeachment becomes the most important trial case in the country and should be treated as such.
as long as its credible.
smh
so if russia is putting mis-information out there then it's okay.
these fucking sleazebags.
Again, I keep getting shot down when bringing this up, but I dont think trump will ever leave
Today's media exists as a mechanism to turn eyeballs into money. They aren't an ally.
Anyone who really thought he was getting removed was living in fantasy land
Watching this and hearing experts talk there is no fking law, this is seriously authoritarianism. Who can check him?
He'll have to
but the country gonna be fucked up forever because of this.
Trump doesn't have the balls to try and force himself to stay if he loses the election. If he loses, he might try to get his supporters to block the electoral college proceedings, but on inauguration day he would cease to be president. He isn't going to have the army blocking a newly elected president.
With that said, if we can get him out now, then do it.
With that said, if we can get him out now, then do it.
The Attorney for SDNY was out front of Epstein's former sex dungeon mansion/blackmail factory recently. He's thinking it alot this week.
lol just saying. I'm still hopeful that he gets kicked to the curb in November, and regardless without a constitutional amendment he'd be gone after a second term whining or not. He isn't getting an amendment.
Fun fact the only armed service that is authorized to follow federal authority to enforce domestic policy is the Coast Guard.
And after the new pres is sworn in, they would tell trump to F off because Trump would have no power. Even if he did, no military person would do it, unless Trump starts dropping all his Military leaders now and putting in puppets.
Both sides are saying that this outcome sets precident for the future that will change our country basically. The whole country should be mad that they are making a case that would set a precident to make the president's campaign more important than anything else. Even if the trial went months, this situations deserves it. This will effect our country big time in the future, we should spent as much time needed.
So now the Judicial branch isn't there to be an active participant, because of the possibility of a impeached and removed president could then put on trial before the Judicial branch for potential criminal charges.
So, you don't need actual Crime to impeach and remove a president, right Dersh?
So, you don't need actual Crime to impeach and remove a president, right Dersh?
A Republican president's campaign. Watch how fast they go after a Democrat that makes the same argument.