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Impeachment |OT|
- Thread starter Kaitos
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Probably. They also realize the current President has obstructed justice, sought foreign political assistance multiple times (including requesting the commission of crimes), has obstructed congress at every turn and recently assasinated a major government official in a hostile nation.
Hear me out, people might be thinking of implications beyond political ones.
Guy talks for 20 minutes and pretends that that's enough to be an exhaustive argument.
I mean, so far they're literally just stating the same thing over and over. "Zelinsky didn't say he was pressured!"
I mean, so far they're literally just stating the same thing over and over. "Zelinsky didn't say he was pressured!"
Guy sounds like he wants to cry and he's barely started.
(Maybe I should stop posting so much)
(Maybe I should stop posting so much)
Now that's actually kind of awesome.
The Republican defense so far really represents perfectly the attitude of a group of people who know they don't have to try very hard. They really are just going through the motions.
I do like how he has a pocket square in as if this is some kind of dinner party, though.
He vaguely resembles Bill Nye.
I'm talking about the idea of "overturning an election" as if somehow Hilary becomes President if he's removed.
He's trying to pretend that the house doesn't have authority to put out subpoenas until a full house vote and that any they put out before that don't count.
He's basically complaining that the president didn't get a chance to threaten witnesses early enough.
Lol! Republican lawyer complaining about the impeachment process in the house going too fast! Complaining trump couldn't call witnesses or cross examine!
Oh God! He's saying that cross examination is the key to due process! He said the house was trying to rush things through just to beat a deadline! Arrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhh
Oh God! He's saying that cross examination is the key to due process! He said the house was trying to rush things through just to beat a deadline! Arrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhh
Everything is about Donald Trump in the Trump administration. Everything. Anyone who supports anything besides Donald Trump is an enemy of Donald Trump, and the Trump voting base, which is a rabid and motivated majority of the GOP base in 2020, will not tolerate enemies of Trump.
If the GOP thought they could jettison Trump painfree across the ballot and cruise to a victory in 2020 with Mike Pence and the Senators and Representatives up for reelection doing the same, they would remove him. But Mike Pence being President instead of Donald Trump is unacceptable to Trump's base, and anyone who lined up for that would get destroyed.
Despite the too-clever-by-half claims that Mitch McConnell is the sneaky most powerful person in America, he's not. It's Donald Trump. The GOP is utterly terrified of Trump casting them out, backing a primary challenger, etc.
Imagine not showing up to your court date because you thought the system was unfair. I'm sure the judge would just say, "oh, you're right. No problem!"
Trump's campaign did do tons of shit for Russia. So many of his people went to jail. It was only Trump that they couldn't directly prove was involved without some level of doubt.
You know, if they were really so worried and upset that Trump's counsel wasn't at the House hearings and couldn't question witnesses (as far as I thought, they were at least free to honor the subpoenas and attend the public hearings, they didn't), there's still an easy way to remedy that and get your part of the case across.
Call for the Senate to allow witnesses. Bring them in and question them yourself if you really want to. They could use this part of the process as a remedy to the second impeachment article on its own. But of course they won't. They don't actually need to.
Vote in November.
Call for the Senate to allow witnesses. Bring them in and question them yourself if you really want to. They could use this part of the process as a remedy to the second impeachment article on its own. But of course they won't. They don't actually need to.
Vote in November.
this.
No fuckin way am I poising my mood with their lies. I get offended quickly.
their argument is going to be summarized as, "Who are you going to believe? Me or your lyin' eyes?"
Before I even have my morning coffee. I expected earlier.
When you say they wrapped up, does that mean they only used like 2 hours of their 24 hours defense??? Or is there more to come?
More on Monday, but they've said they won't use most of their 21 hours.
I just heard WaPo say they made it short to try and sell the idea that they're not going to waste tax payer money. Jesus christ.
Them only using 2 of the 3 hours they had on a Saturday morning isn't something to read into too much, I don't think. Remember that most of this defense is going to exist for Trump's personal viewing, he's already admitted he doesn't like the Saturday presentation for ratings' sake, and we know his attention span can't handle much. This is probably about as much as they wanted to handle to get the talking points out, and will save the longer-form defense for next week when Trump can tune in and out while doing other things.
The one thing that surprises me about today is that I don't think they actually delved into the Biden side of things at all? For all of Lindsey Graham and Sekulow's bluster about it toward the end of yesterday I expected that to be more of a focal point.
The one thing that surprises me about today is that I don't think they actually delved into the Biden side of things at all? For all of Lindsey Graham and Sekulow's bluster about it toward the end of yesterday I expected that to be more of a focal point.
I can buy this. As always, gop only ever speaking to their fuhrer, not the people.
Republicans out there pretending that this is all they need to hear. One person saying "it only took these two hours to shred the Democrats argument"
Prepare to hear a lot of that.
Prepare to hear a lot of that.
It's infuriating how everything is fucking recorded for us to see over and over again, but they'll lie about it and their base won't question it at all.
It's some 1984 shit.