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Impeachment |OT|
- Thread starter Kaitos
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I think part of it is basically a game of "guessing" who among our current politicians might be president some day or might make a really solid candidate. And, yeah, honestly, AOC and Schiff are probably the two most obvious Dems that would make the best candidates.
I'd say there's also dissatisfaction with our current choices. The best candidates left in this race are old, and the young candidates either suck or have no chance. Schiff has the oratory skills of Obama and is still "just" 59. That doesn't mean I want him to be president, because I know nothing about him, but I could see it.
The main thing that I'm worried about is a Trump acquittal announcing to the world that if you meddle in US elections to help the GOP there will be no repercussions. I'm not sure if we can win in 2020 when having to work against open election meddling, and if Trump serves another term then who knows what more will be done to dismantle the integrity of our elections. I worry our democracy is on the line here.
just a figure of speech at this point. The next thing to walk through my doorstep (ie my cat) should be president
Fortunately China could interfere as well and they hate him. Could just depend on who is better between them and Russia to decide who wins in 2020.
You make good points, julian. Have you considered being president
Trump is single handedly wrecking America's soft power so bad as Trump is for China in the short term, they probably couldn't be any happier about the long term implications.
It sounds like it, and then back on Monday. Trump was throwing a fit that his defense started on Saturday, so they might have delayed the bulk of it til Monday.
Yeah, I gave up watching. My blood pressure doesn't need me being furious for 3 hours as the President's defense team lies for him. I'll catch highlights of the crazy, stupid, or wrong shit that'll surely come from them.
Fun how Chief Justice Roberts warns both counsels during the trial to remain respectful of the process and of each other, and then meanwhile...we have this from the highest office and no one seems to think it's an issue.
This is nothing more than confirmation bias for the republicans to all vote against.
Trumpworld narrative must always hang itself on "Trump 2016 was the will of the people" because Trump is completely insane over the fact he lost the popular vote.
Sure, but he could be much more favorable towards them if they help throw an election for him. Look how good he's been to Russia - who wouldn't want that treatment?
And even if that's not the case and China would be more inclined to help the Democrats I'm still not cool with US elections now just being open for foreign intervention.
Righto, well let's get rid of the Senate vote on removal and allow the American people to decide whether or not the sitting President is removed from office.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Trumps approval ratings seems to be unchanged since he was impeached? I guess people don't care.
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Americans do not get the opportunity to decide the president. Otherwise Hillary would be in the White House.
Republicans do not break rankCorrect me if I'm wrong, but Trumps approval ratings seems to be unchanged since he was impeached? I guess people don't care.
How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
Then as they explained the incumbent will do anything in his power to get reelected without fear of consequence.
I'm about 20 minutes behind, but it seems like this guy didn't see any of the House Managers opening statements the last 3 days. Trump's lawyers are completely in their own bubble.
The guy could get up and fart and then wipe his ass with the constitution and the gop would give him a standing ovation.
Now we're getting somewhere! Will of the People, right?
It's a combination of the two sides being fully dug-in by now and anyone in the middle probably just stuck with scandal-fatigue. The media reports on terrible shit Trump does on such a constant basis that the gravitas of any particular charge is lessened. Just another story on the pile, whatever, everyone knows there's a 0% chance he actually gets removed from all this anyway so there's nothing to be gained by paying attention to any of this in some folks' minds.Correct me if I'm wrong, but Trumps approval ratings seems to be unchanged since he was impeached? I guess people don't care.
How Popular Is Donald Trump?
FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.
The president can do whatever he wants to, until November. That's when it matters. It's the only time it ever really has mattered.
I never understand why some Americans are so hung up on vote count when they 100% know that electoral college decides the winner, not necessarily who wins in raw vote count.
Want it other way? Take down electoral college.
So ten minutes into his opening statement and he already made a false statement about the President's lawyers being completely locked out of the process.
EDIT: Wow,, Schiff completely telegraphed that they would use his parody speech. Again, only took them 10 minutes.
EDIT: Wow,, Schiff completely telegraphed that they would use his parody speech. Again, only took them 10 minutes.
Well i have a hammer and a screwdriver in my basement, but I'm not entirely sure where to begin with this level of dismantle :V
Fun how when you're in middle school and the teacher is like "This is our political system it's the best one on earth!" and you got no context for that so you just agree with it. Now I"m 30 and I want to burn it all to the ground, but you know, in a way that would keep emissions low to protect our environment.
To be fair, there's not a single government entity in the world that can withstand the kind of lockstep corruption of the gop. At least we still have 'some' hope with elections. Of course, they're slowly destroying that too.
This guy doesn't even sound particularly convinced himself. Just reading a page and doing the motions.
"They're trying to overturn the results of the 2016 election".
YES! BECAUSE HE'S A TRAITOR AND A CRIMINAL !!! Fucking hell.
YES! BECAUSE HE'S A TRAITOR AND A CRIMINAL !!! Fucking hell.
Yes that's my understanding of the dem strategy. It's to solidify a Democrat win in November. It's also the right thing to do and as a bonus in a rare timeline he's removed.
Not even overturning the results. Trump has had his chance to do his job and he's mostly fucked it up. It's like saying you shouldn't be fired because once a company hires you, it's set in stone. A contact can never be broken once it's been written.
He's also a wet noodle that no one cares about at all. They gaurantee a loss this year with him.
Overturning the results was always a bullshit argument. Entropy has solidified his 3 year record. He should be removed because of it.
Oh God, the projection.
"Repeating an untruth over and over doesn't make it true no matter how many people you say it to"
"Repeating an untruth over and over doesn't make it true no matter how many people you say it to"
Then it really IS overturning an election! Oh my.
I like Sekulow bringing up that a special counsel was appointed within six months of Trump's inauguration, during a Republican-friendly congress, as though it's some sort of proof that the evil dems have been out to get Trump all along.
No, maybe he really just always has sucked that much.
No, maybe he really just always has sucked that much.
Don't forget that trump said for years that Mueller was incompetent and that the whole thing was a sham. Now it's some sort of golden goose?