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I can't wait for all the gop senators running away gifs that come after reporters are allowed direct access again.
What did he ask? Haven't been able to listen.
Schumer essentially telling the GOP to fuck off gives me life.
as much as I think they will table the rest for tomorrow, I kinda hope they go till tomorrow morning.
as much as I think they will table the rest for tomorrow, I kinda hope they go till tomorrow morning.
McConnell asked Schumer to combine all of the proposed democratic amendments to the McConnell resolution so they could vote them all down at once.
Schumer basically told McConnell to get fucked.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but they can vote to bring witnesses later on.
You are correct. Dems are trying to vote before opening arguments. After that....maybe next week they'll vote again for witnesses
Dems are literally just using these amendments to buy more talking time to hammer away their points since they know Republicans are trying to speed this through.
Should do like 100 amendments of evidence they don't want to see. Just broadcast this bullshit all election cycle
So they asked for some evidence and all 3 amendments failed. Can they ask again later or does it have to be different?
One if the amendments should be the literal transcripts. Then it's in public record whoopsie
What's great is that they don't give the impression of wanting to delay for the sake of delaying. They've already started to present their case, they give a lot of facts to those who didn't follow what happened so far, and they're refreshing others memory.
They show that they're in charge there, they don't let Trump's lawyers get away with their bullshit, they're very reactive.
Schiff is just awesome but they're all doing well.
They show that they're in charge there, they don't let Trump's lawyers get away with their bullshit, they're very reactive.
Schiff is just awesome but they're all doing well.
Next week, after House/Trump arguments and Senator questions.
Yes. Just have an amendment be like "We would like to have this added to the public record: *starts entire transcript of evidence*". It'd be amazing.
Welp. I gotta pack it in. I'll be interested in seeing how long this went on for in the morning. Godspeed to anyone hanging in for the long haul.
I'm surprised anyone is remotely optimistic about this. Are the Dems saying anything that isn't already known? I'm sure the Senate already knows the facts and has made their mind up on it anyways.
Also if the Republicans all voted against the three evidence amendments, why would any suddenly defect for witnesses unless they're hoping to get a Trump supporter witness? I honestly don't see anything really coming out of except the Reps continuing to support Trump despite the obvious impeachable offense.
Also if the Republicans all voted against the three evidence amendments, why would any suddenly defect for witnesses unless they're hoping to get a Trump supporter witness? I honestly don't see anything really coming out of except the Reps continuing to support Trump despite the obvious impeachable offense.
Cannot praise him enough during this entire endeavor tbh. I bet he makes a damn good POTUS himself some day. :)
I stopped watching too
It was great soundtrack for when I was cleaning my room
But just sitting there and watching is torture.
House proceedings were more interesting
I'm convinced a lot of these Senators are in the Fox News bubble and literally haven't heard any facts until today.
Those are just procedural votes, tabling the amendments for later. From what I understand, all of these amendments will be voted on together.
They're pretending to follow the same rules as for Clinton's trial, during which they voted later to call witnesses. Collins already said today that although she's voting against the amendments, she's likely to vote to call witnesses. I don't trust them but it could actually happen, the question is how many are they.
Dems are doing their job, they're explaining why they wanted to subpoena the documents and witnesses they asked for. They want to show the public that the trial is unfair.
Philbin is so worthless, nothing he says is ever relevant to the motion at hand
I think people are just taking whatever pleasure they can out of this situation in which case it's kind of nice seeing McConnell get marginally annoyed.
Not sure if optimistic is how I would describe myself, but I think the arguments in favor of evidence/witnesses is good enough that we will get there with the 4 GOP senators we need. Could be wrong though, but those senators are severely damaged politically if they get on the wrong side of history here on that issue. In the event that evidence/witnesses are called and allowed all hell is gonna break loose and it'd honestly be tough imho to assume anything about outcomes. I also wanna note that even Trump supporters overwhelmingly support a fair trial and are expecting to see witnesses up there disproving the various charges under oath. I don't wanna give them credit without earning it, but I bet there are many of them who would watch Pompeo and Mulvaney throw Trump under the bus and be utterly devastated themselves. Maybe change minds even. This has happened to farmers and various Trump voters on other matters, mind you. Just need to pop their bubble.
Loads of GOP senators want Trump gone and much prefer Pence in his place. The trick is forcing their constituents to force them to convict, but that requires minds to change. That won't happen imo unless Trump's inner circle is forced to turn against him, which absolutely CAN happen if witnesses are forced to testify. The GOP won't just ignore Bolton either if he is up there slinging shit. That will have at least some notable effect on them I think. So will Pompeo and Mulvaney...these are their old colleagues, remember.
If the GOP just votes to kill all hopes of evidence/witnesses I honestly worry/expect all hell will break loose in the country. The stakes can't be any higher here. Trump will be emboldened even moreso and straight up rig his own election and the GOP will help him do it (more than usual, I mean). I dunno how the public would react to that becoming apparent. Legit scary times.
Nah, this stuff works. Just look at every special election we've had. Alabama Democrat senator. Democrat governor of Kentucky. *Reelected* democrat governor of Louisiana.
Trump is super fucking toxic to Republicans getting elected. We just might get the Senate.
This is the thing:
Alot of people don't know beyond a basic soundbite. Thankfully, the soundbite was "Fucking Mobster-in-Chief extorted Ukraine to help him in the next election", because mostly, the soundbite have been warped or presoftened by the crowd that protects and cultivates said mobster-in-chief. How do they do that? A Firehose of Falsehoods to drown out the known truth. By doing this, the Dems bring a Firehose of Truthhood so that the low-info people don't get tainted and emotions set on "yo fuck that guy maybe removal would be best".
Information wars are a thing we must all come to understand.
