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I'm not entirely sure what genre SPLATOON 2 belongs to but it's the best game in it.
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Easy, There are many examples of better shooters. Destiny is by far my favorite that's not a third person shooter though. it's not that splatoon is bad or anything just not the best in class. Heck I would put Fortnite, Battlefront 2, Gears V, Overwatch and Division 2 all above it.
And are much better games than Splatoon.
universe brain resetera: lets make a thread about genres thats actually about shedding light on the best game people aren't playing.
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I comes down to taste for sure but there is not a game on that list that is MUCH better than Splatoon 2, but your right about those being great games.
Why are they better? More players on the map? The QoL stuff? Voice chat? More war like feel?
No other shooter has the ink mechanic but Splatoon has all the standard shooter mechanics. Ink lets you hide in plain sight and on walls. It turns the entire map into potential ambush locations. It changes your movement capabilities dynamically and constantly. It gives you at-a-glance status on match state. Not just who is winning but where everyone is or likely to be and what they're doing and where they are going. Paint allows gamers with poor aim to contribute meaningfully. Plus you still have all the typical weapon types and secondaries as other games. Splatoon lacks the QoL feature set of popular shooters. To me I prefer higher quality core gameplay over more QoL features. Splatoon will get there some day, probably next gen.
The only one of these games that's really comparable to Splatoon is Gears. This is the thing though, how do you define "best in class" here? Splatoon is a fundamentally different game, with different design goals at its core than basically any other TPS on the market. I think the gameplay loop in Splatoon is basically unmatched in the shooter genre, and I will talk until I'm blue in the face about it if given the chance. I don't think the game is perfect, but the gameplay basically is. The way the weapons balance, the match lengths, the variables in the objectives... it's tremendously good. And any time I pick up any other shooty shooty bang bang game I just wish I was playing Splatoon.
Such an underrated game, the most inspired Nintendo has been in a long time. The mechanics are amazingly original, polished and in perfect sync with a universe that oozes charm and freshness.
And a testament to it all is how well it adapts to such different themes and gameplay variations, such as Salmon Run and Octo Expansion.
And a testament to it all is how well it adapts to such different themes and gameplay variations, such as Salmon Run and Octo Expansion.
It's a third person shooter. Leave it to Nintendo to innovate enough to make you question the genre though
I thought about this and realize how accurate you are with octo expansion and its hilarious
I agree it's all tastes.
Feel, I enjoy the feel of those games much more than Splatoon. I just am not a fan and I have turned around on the Octoling and Inklings which I think are pretty cool characters.
Plus Splatoon 2's Octo Expansion is one of the best TPS campaigns out there thanks to the strong aesthetic, consistently novel levels, and stiff enough difficulty to make it all matter on top of the innovative lattice world map.
Even the horde mode is pretty great with the varied bosses, events and tactics to handle them and the focus on a consistent need to be flexible in approach.
Even the horde mode is pretty great with the varied bosses, events and tactics to handle them and the focus on a consistent need to be flexible in approach.
That would be Splatoon 1. Splatoon 2 kind of shit the bed IMHO. The online is so bad with the tick rate, and controlling the area with Ink is so much less important. TTK is too high. Ink rates are way too high for most weapons. The levels also by and large discourage strategic play. One of the more disappointing sequels in recent memory.
How so? I'm genuinely curious what makes you feel that way. I mostly run League pairs, and when we get teamed with people who don't effectively use map control we are fucking hosed. I think that the shift of the specials to primarily be ways to zone out enemies changed how controlling the map feels, but I don't think they made it any less important. The tick rate thing is sucky, and I wish that the online performed better period, but really my biggest issue with the game was not bringing back all the old maps. Where is Mahi Mahi Resort you cowards?
Third person shooters. For what it's worth, Splatoon 1 and 2 are two of the most fun games I have ever played. I just love the experience from top to bottom.
Online 3rd person shooter that is incredibly fun even if you don't like online games and/or 3rd person shooters.
i hope they add a splattle royale mode to splatoon 3
i guess the issue would be coming up with 100 ink colors that are diverse enough even for colorblind players - i guess they could keep it as teams of 4 and only have to come up with 25 colors, but it's still probably a tricky issue to work around
i guess the issue would be coming up with 100 ink colors that are diverse enough even for colorblind players - i guess they could keep it as teams of 4 and only have to come up with 25 colors, but it's still probably a tricky issue to work around
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I dont know if 100 squids is feasible but I love the idea of a BR in Splatoon even if it's 8 squads of 4!
Saying that map control is less important is a big simplification for sure. The game design was so tight in the first one, with mechanics feeding into each other to create the games strategy. It's kind of complex and I suck at writing about it, so let's see if I can actually explain it...
There were a few big changes from S1 to S2 that I'll go through individually first, then try and give more details how the combination of them changes the meta.
- Increased ink rate and coverage for most weapons. You can push forward and still have enough
- Decreased time to kill (TTK)
- Decreased map complexity
- Nerfed supers
- Decreased enemy ink movement penalty
- Way more ways to see where your opponents are on the map
- No more gamepad (more cumbersome instajumps, no realtime info on what territory is covered in what color, no map integration for supers)
- Increased movement speed and mobility options (dodge roll, brushes, ziplines, etc.)
Also Splatoon 2 doesn't have the minigames that you play while waiting for matches, so it's obviously worse by that alone.
The style, music and concept are just phenominal. But I seem to be the only person who has issues with the gameplay. Gyro aiming disables Y-axis stick aiming which makes it extremely awkward, and stick aiming is janky, so neither option is ideal. There should be a third option with gyro on both axes. Not sure what it is about the movement either, maybe because the game's pace is constantly jerking between slow and fast depending on whether you're shooting or moving in ink, but there's something off about it. Either way, shooting and platforming just never quite feel like you're in proper control to me, and I really just cannot see what people mean when they praise the game for its fluiditiy.
yeah, I'm really not that into competitive games but Splatoon's mechanics are so dang fun I can't help but love it
it's freaking elegant
You must be doing something wrong if you don't think Splatoon is the most beautifully intuitive way to play a shooter with a console controller. Have you watched tutorials on how to be thinking about aiming and movement with the gyro?
I would really question calling the single player a platformer. The game doesn't push platforming challenges and in fact, most traversal from platform to platform is automatic through cannons or rails which is more akin to a moving turret section in other FPS/TPS. The majority of the movement the single player requires from you is about positioning your shots and dodging enemy shots. There's of course some obstacles, but I feel they're incidental rather than enough to qualify the game as a platformer.
Worth noting I have not played the DLC and am not sure if it pushes the platforming harder.
I wouldnt call selling 10,13 million copies underrated, but it is certainly bigger and better than some people make it out to be
Frankly, I think if Nintendo ever ports a major first party game, lots of people will assume Mario/Zelda/etc. will follow suit and hold off on Nintendo hardware. You can't just look at Splatoon in a vacuum.