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'I'm not comfortable living here': More Americans did actually try to move to Canada since Trump's 2016 election
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My people are being murdered in the fucking streets by the people paid by tax dollars to protect us.
FYI dual citizenship sucks with US as you'll need to double file taxes if you live over here:
McBride: Americans residing in Canada are required to file U.S. income tax returns
Americans who reside in Canada must file United States income tax returns and bank account disclosure forms annually.
www.google.ca
it's why some Americans drop their us citizenship if they'll never go back.
FYI dual citizenship sucks with US as you'll need to double file taxes if you live over here:
McBride: Americans residing in Canada are required to file U.S. income tax returns
Americans who reside in Canada must file United States income tax returns and bank account disclosure forms annually.
it's why some Americans drop their us citizenship if they'll never go back.
I lived in Korea for 4 years so I know what to expect in terms of what's required of US citizens even if they're not living in the country. While it was slightly annoying, it wasn't that bad. I can definitely imagine having more assets potentially makes it a headache though.
It was 12-16C(53 to 60F) earlier this year in late February/early March in Toronto(the snow melted quickly). And then of course the madness of that high 35 C/low 40(95 F to 104F) summer that pretty much lasted from the end of May to the first week of this month.
Now, apparently it's going to be a long fall/autumn.
Lengthy, enjoyable fall season likely for most of Canada, weather experts predict
Canadians can look forward to a lengthy, pleasant fall that won't give way to early winter temperatures and storms, according to one of the country's top weather forecasters.www.cp24.com
was like the reverse for us in the center of the states. It was below freezing on halloween and snowed. It was the most WTF mother nature power move I ever saw. Then we had some absurd colds too. I don't know what to expect for fall honestly lol
If I didn't just buy a condo i would think about it.....especially if fuck face wins again. We have a division in Canada and my status should allow me to easily transfer right over without much hassle if there is an opening.
I would have moved but even my moderately educated and skilled self scored basically a zero on the "does Canada actually need or want me to live there" index. Even if I did rate higher, the process from there was long and tedious.
If the U.S. immigration system is even 10% as difficult, it's no wonder people would just skip that. Software piracy is just under serving a market and all that.
If the U.S. immigration system is even 10% as difficult, it's no wonder people would just skip that. Software piracy is just under serving a market and all that.
Wait...dual citizenship?Folks can do that? Does it hurt you with taxes or just mean if you need it you got a fallback country when enoughs enough.
Not with every country (some only allow you to be a citizen of that country, which I think was the case with Canada up until a decade or so ago) but with some countries.
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Dual Citizenship Advantages and Disadvantages
When does it make sense to be a citizen of the United States and another country? Here are the advantages and disadvantages of a dual citizenship.
It can potentially be a headache with taxes, but (at least with the US) treaties that help prevent double taxation usually makes it a fairly easy process. When I was living abroad I had to report the income I made to the IRS, but it was more of a "heads up, this is what I'm making" than "what do I owe you?" due to treaties.
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Not going to lie - is Trump is reelected with all this fuckery he's trying to pull I will be wanting to move for sure. It really would be amazing to live in a place where healthcare is seen as a human right.
As a Canadian, come on in, we've got free healthcare and people actually see that as a right here, none of that bootstrap shit.
If I won the lottery tomorrow, I'd be living in Canada or Europe by the weekend. Would not look back.
Alas, I'm dirt poor, so I'm stuck here for the foreseeable future.
Alas, I'm dirt poor, so I'm stuck here for the foreseeable future.
We could move if we absolutely wanted to (took one of those 'see if you qualify' things). But I love where we live and my wife even more so. So I'm going to stay and fight and use whatever privilege I have to fight for those that don't really have any options.
I think leaving the entire North American region is a lot smarter than just going up north. If the US does end up going the way of a failed nation and with the ravages of climate change, it's only a matter of time before a banded coalition of failed states of the former United States band together to invade Canada for water. Even then, Canada relies too much on cheap American food stuff for there to not be much more factors at play in where you believe you can live. Basically, the time to leave was a decade ago when we believed, even halfway we were safe. Now that we are no longer safe and witnessing the effects of climate change, hundreds of years of oppression being pushed back upon and the resurgence of fascism who the fuck wants an American in their midst?
Reading this thread I'm surprised how strict it is for Americans and Canadians to migrate to each others country. I always had the impression there was a relaxed EU-like relationship with that particular border. I thought people could commute across the border?
I've been seriously considering it. California is fucked. Trump's admin has been a disaster. I work in games, and there's a big industry presence in Canada.
Visiting has always been easy, though it was a lot easier in the past. Before the 21st century, you could cross the border in the car without needing any kind of official documentation like a passport. They'd sort of just wave you through after some routine questions. But actual citizenship is a lot tougher.
I know people say it every election but I'm going to have to move if Trump wins again. My wife is a minority and my son is mixed. There's no way we can stay in a purple or red state if the country votes in the guy who put people who look like my wife in cages and has done every horrid thing you can imagine, including an almost 200k body count because he was worried about getting re-elected. I don't see how she can feel even remotely safe.
Not where I live. Vancouver is basically Seattle, climate-wise
I really wish I could go - I'm a bit too old and I can't speak French, so I doubt I'd score enough points to be eligible now. Congrats to the people who made it though.
Shit's fucked up. America needs democratic and social reform. I understand getting away from a bad situation and all that but what about all the people who can't just pack up and move to Canada?
Also Canada ain't the fucking promised land, trust me. We have the same toxic police culture in addition to large numbers of hate groups. There's been an increase in gun crime as well stemming from the illegal gun trade.
Also Canada ain't the fucking promised land, trust me. We have the same toxic police culture in addition to large numbers of hate groups. There's been an increase in gun crime as well stemming from the illegal gun trade.
Has anyone *genuinely* looked into the process? It appears you need to apply for permanent residency first, of course, not citizenship, as a prerequisite. There's a few different applications...one general one, but also a "business"/expedited one that I might be able to take advantage of, though the net worth requirement is kinda eh. It also seems like the application fee alone is approximately $2,000 USD, which sucks.
Even if I could get in due to favorable circumstances, it does seem unlikely most of my friends would be able to. New Zealand, Australia, Scotland, and maybe even Finland (long story) remain other options.
I'm seriously looking at this. I don't have a spouse or children, and I could potentially uproot my life and start again. And though it would be hard, I think I could mentally frame it as an adventure.
Even if I could get in due to favorable circumstances, it does seem unlikely most of my friends would be able to. New Zealand, Australia, Scotland, and maybe even Finland (long story) remain other options.
I'm seriously looking at this. I don't have a spouse or children, and I could potentially uproot my life and start again. And though it would be hard, I think I could mentally frame it as an adventure.
Yeah we're so far past the "Are we the baddies?" stage. It's not really a question anymore.
I am probably one of the least patriotic people in my circle here in Canada, but I find it plain to see what is so appealing about the place. If there was a way for Americans to just magically get Canadian citizenship, and I was American, I would be packing immediately. It's also basically zero culture shock in that we have all the best parts of American culture but packaged with better social programs. Honestly the US is shambolic right now. All the issues I see in Canada and Europe are absolute jokes compared to what's going on there.
If I have a better chance of reaching the american dream somewhere else it will always be tempting.
Yeah. I mean, not all the time, but a lot of the time.
As far as extreme cold though, most winters we don't even get snow. Maybe a day or two.
engineering would likely get you in if i were to guess
canada loves educated peoples
Lol. I did ask my ex if we could marry if things get extra additional bad.
I feel worn down everyday. The bigotry, anti science, poor infrastructure. I paid 1000 USD for 45 min er visit for a broken thumb. (xray and thumb in a cup of iodine). I hate it here but I'm also American thus won't do anything until it's too late.
I feel worn down everyday. The bigotry, anti science, poor infrastructure. I paid 1000 USD for 45 min er visit for a broken thumb. (xray and thumb in a cup of iodine). I hate it here but I'm also American thus won't do anything until it's too late.
Ya know I learnt something knew I didn't know that Canada sent out the notice that you can send in your application for permanent residency. Not the other way around
Canada seems like it'd be a difficult place to make a living in a niche career.
Also, a difficult place to buy a house.
But, if it's between living there (a stable country) or here (a country where I have no idea what's going to happen and could implode at any second), I think I'd choose Canada.
Heck, I'd even try to learn metric.
Now, if only they'd let me in with a permit...can I have a friend sponsor me? Just kidding. Unless I can.
On the real, I'd expect that Canada will have at least somewhat of a difficult time, economically, if things really degrade in the US.
Also, a difficult place to buy a house.
But, if it's between living there (a stable country) or here (a country where I have no idea what's going to happen and could implode at any second), I think I'd choose Canada.
Heck, I'd even try to learn metric.
Now, if only they'd let me in with a permit...can I have a friend sponsor me? Just kidding. Unless I can.
On the real, I'd expect that Canada will have at least somewhat of a difficult time, economically, if things really degrade in the US.
How niche are we talking?
Housing is expensive in certain areas like Vancouver and the Toronto area, but quite affordable in others.
Nom-profit education/workforce development
It's pretty difficult to find a sustainable career in that even in the US. But, maybe it's easier elsewhere?
Isn't most of Ontario expensive to purchase a house?
And is it also expensive everywhere in lower BC - in proximity to Vancouver?
You aren't going to another dimension. We share a land border you can cross by car. Instead of missing friends and family I think the biggest hurdle is immigration requirements and money. It's expensive to move and most countries, Canada included, have a selective immigration process.
While these stats don't look as impressive at the first look it's worth remembering that canada and most of europe have pretty high standards for people they take.
So you're mostly looking at wealthy, highly skilled people that are leaving while the rest either can't afford it or get denied because they aren't seen as 'valuable'.
So you're mostly looking at wealthy, highly skilled people that are leaving while the rest either can't afford it or get denied because they aren't seen as 'valuable'.
UK here and someone who I worked with has moved to Canada to live and I'm exceptionally jealous when I see all their Facebook posts. Obviously you're only getting the highlight reel but if I could get away from this cesspit of a country I'd be on that plane like a shot.
"Try" to move. How many actually succeeded? Because as far as I know, it's not something simple and it takes quite a while to even be accepted(IF you get accepted).
Don't worry, we already got those. Even if they don't make the news quite as often as the american ones.
Don't worry, we already got those. Even if they don't make the news quite as often as the american ones.
If trump wins in November, my wife and I decided we will be moving to Canada. We joked about it in 2016 but it just isnt a joke anymore.
We considered it briefly, and could probably get fast-tracked since my wife is a medical professional. At this point though, we'd be leaving too much behind. ...If he wins this one and then decides to declare himself emperor in 2024, we'll maybe look at options.
As much as I'd love to leave...I was born and raised in the USA with all the baggage that come with it. I'd love to say I'm different, "one of the good ones" but I'm know I'm not. I'm not sure I believe in "good ones" anymore. If I really think another country is a better place, I have no right to infect it with the virus that I am just for the sake of making myself feel better. I know full well I deserve whatever hell I get.