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I'm losing trust in Sony PC ports strategy
- Thread starter martincrimson87
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Then your line of reasoning means that you think it is also coming to Xbox.
I'm just going to say this, the whole thing about the Demon's Souls trailer in the show is weird because none of the other games in that trailer had that text, but at the same time it makes no sense to release it on another console (PC makes sense though) even later because it opens up a whole can of worms.
Also not to mention that it's one hell of a mistake regardless but eh
Also not to mention that it's one hell of a mistake regardless but eh
I was really interested in Death Stranding until I saw the $60 price tag. And $50 for Horizon? Still?
Sony, you can keep your pc ports. No thanks.
Sony, you can keep your pc ports. No thanks.
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I'm not sure it works like this. I don't see PC players switching to consoles for a couple of games. They might buy a PS5 and some exclusives eventually, but not PS Plus, COD, FIFA and GTA.
The Horizon port made me very patient. I'm not buying a PS5 until about the end of the gen. When/If I do, I will just sell or donate it after beating the backlog of exclusives.
I forgot about that. It makes so much sense to put the game on PC after a year or so.
I think the PC ports were always going to be stingy, the majority of the games people want to play will probably never come to PC. And at very best, stuff will come years after release. HZD was an easy pick because it's on the same engine as a game that was already coming to PC. Was a bit silly to trust Sony on this in the first place.
It is about getting you in the ecosystem for a bit, and then get you hooked a bit more.
There's no strategy.
Most likely Hideo Kojima wanted to use a multi-platform engine for his game, Guerilla games said they could do it with their engine. Guerilla also suggested porting Horizon to PC.
Most likely Hideo Kojima wanted to use a multi-platform engine for his game, Guerilla games said they could do it with their engine. Guerilla also suggested porting Horizon to PC.
Apparently not, based on ZhugeEx's tweet. I'd imagine "PC business" entails more than just the cost of porting.
I think it's because, well, PCs are not their priority (which is 100% understandable). Also, they may not want to be in the same situation as Microsoft, where players use to say "hey, it's not an exclusive title!" just because the game is also available on PC.
I think you're underestimating the costs (or the amount of major exclusives). My friend works are at indie studio and it took them £500k to port one small indie game from PC to xbox and that game was order of magnitudes less complex than what Sony puts out.
Don't think it works this way when with the other games like GoW whose lead dev/director (don't remember his title) was all for pc port resulted in negative (at that point) answer for him. Suggestions and desire of devs don't matter much for stuff like that.
Well i don't know how much is a lot exactly when it comes to porting games but clearly its not a small amount with respect to that but even if its not greatly much it is just the starting investment amount. They won't go all in on the porting scheme but stay light st the start until it starts making them quite a bit of profit. Either way it shows that Sony has and is investing in making PC ports for the future and not like it ain't happening like some people here have suggested.
I'm pretty sure based on the wording that $50M is how much they expect to make out of it in revenue, not how much they invest in it (which is likely significantly lower as Sony had not shown signs of aggressive loss leader strategy for hitting set forecasts), that is nothing. Its essentially selling 1M copies between stuff like Horizon, predator, possibly also including royalties from death stranding and Quantic Dream PC ports.
It isn't merely getting to play the games, it's to enjoy the unique features that come with PC on those games. I've rebought a ton of games on PC for that reason despite having played them on console.
I mean, these things only take a few clicks to get done, even with covid it's weird that it's taking so long for more ports to arrive.
Yes, this is sarcasm.
I want to if they're conveniently available. By which I mean: on PC.
If not, not bovvered mate.
Sony is never going to commit on PC, they want people on Ps5 and they want you to buy games from the PSN, sub to PS+ and spend money on digital stuff.
You might see some games on PC down the line but only after several years or if they are MP focused like the Predator game but don't expect a lot in the first place.
You might see some games on PC down the line but only after several years or if they are MP focused like the Predator game but don't expect a lot in the first place.
Why wouldnt I with the crossbuy potential and I prefer trophies over steam archivements.I mean would it be bad if they are srsly trying to do a good psn launcher. I know some ppl hate everything not made by valve tho so the question is retoric. Dont ansewer pls.
You would prefer it for brand loyalty, that's all. You're one of those persons who got upset when there were talks about exclusives not being exclusives. So it all comes down to the brand loyalty.
Good to know you know my whole reasoning. But if we argue like that. You whole reasoning against any launcher is brand loyalty as well.
And iam on pc again since last month But I really dislike using stream. I haven't used it since 2016 and imo the new interface is way worse than the old one but yea telling this someone who is defending valve no matter what? It's no use.
Btw. Iam on gamepass too on pc. Iam using it because iam so much biased towards sony.
I don't think it was ever an initiative or 'strategy'. They wanted to double down on revenue of specific games. The idea that most or all of their first parties would be coming was always a pipe dream. They want PC consumers to taste some of their games, with the vision that they'll buy their hardware to play more.
As far as I'm aware, there is no "strategy" for you to lose faith in. They may port some more games to PC in the future; they may not. You should expect nothing really, though.
Once you find a post about me having a meltdown because more people can play a game, then yeah, you can say that.
But for now I'm not the one arguing about "pls sony have your own launcher with exclusives".
Did I say make a launcher and make it exclusives. Oh boy putting words in my mouth and doing like no opinion can ever change while discrediting others. I heared enough totally not biased guy:p
Lind of the impression I got as well. Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't they always up front about only porting select older catalogue titles?
People kind of preemptively set their own expectations to high based on it.
They didn't say even that, just that they were going to "explore the possibility" of porting their games to PC. Whatever plan or strategy they might or might nor have isn't public.
I always thought this viewpoint was incredibly naive. "Wow, Horizon is so amazing I'm just going to buy a whole new console and change how I live my entertainment life".
They did it to earn some scratch. It wasn't part of some grand strategy to indoctrinate PC gamers into buying PS5s. Their games are good. They're not that good.
People who believe that was the strategy are deluded. And if it's truly their plan, then Sony are the deluded ones.
that's only 1 perspective. if PC is and has always been your main gaming hardware then you skipped out on ps2, ps3, ps4 exclusives. you're not likely to pick up a ps5 if you skipped their prior consoles.
but what about me? i had a ps3 and ps4 and exclusives were the main differentiator for me. if there was a firm and public commitment to every playstation game being ported to PC would i pick up a ps5 over building a PC? ...maybe not. heck, probably not because PC has its own exclusives and ms is putting all their games on PC which is a lot of games.
sony has nothing to gain and lots to lose by making a firm commitment to PC. i do think they'll port more games to PC because there is a lot of money to be made. ...but they'll be late, not announced until the last minute, and only a portion of playstion's "exclusives" to protect their investment in playstation.
Agreed 100%. I'm definitely in the category of "I'll play Sony games if they come to PC but I have no interest in a console."
"Change how I live my entertainment life"? "Indoctrinate"? It's a videogame console. They can make a bunch of money on ports and also try to make new fans of franchises to encourage some people to buy PS5s. There's nothing delusional about that.
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My thoughts exactly. I guess we have to keep waiting for upcoming announcements. But I don't think they understand the audience they are trying to reach. It's an untapped market to them so theres a lot to learn from their side.
It doesn't make any sense and acts as if after 20+ years Sony suddenly discovered that there is a PC market.
It also alleges that there is a considerable amount of gamers who only don't own a PS4/5 because they have no idea what a PS4/5 is or what games it has, but at the same time will shell out full price to play one of these games.
This might have made some sense 20+ years ago when people went into a store and bought a game based on it's cover, but not in the age of the internet where you can not only inform yourself instantaneously but even watch the entire game from start to finish.