There was one day when Horizon was also part of those many games never coming to PC. :")
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I'm losing trust in Sony PC ports strategy
- Thread starter martincrimson87
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Why is this something you'd need to "trust" in the first place? They'll release games for PC or they won't, and you can buy them or not.
They announced last year that this wasn't going to become the defacto policy for every game they released going forward, so you just wait and see what comes down the pike.
They announced last year that this wasn't going to become the defacto policy for every game they released going forward, so you just wait and see what comes down the pike.
Nothing happens in a vacuum... Take Bloodborne:
It may get a PC release, but currently it's on the PS+ Collection, adding value to the PS5, because the pandemic has slowed development of next-gen games. So they're not going to okay a BB PC release right now, because that just gives the core of their games division - the PS brand - less value in the short term.
tl;dr: "These things take time".
It may get a PC release, but currently it's on the PS+ Collection, adding value to the PS5, because the pandemic has slowed development of next-gen games. So they're not going to okay a BB PC release right now, because that just gives the core of their games division - the PS brand - less value in the short term.
tl;dr: "These things take time".
Sony's PC business is complimentary to their home console business, their PC ports are designed to incentives PC gamers to acquire a PlayStation system.
I am a little surprised The Show isn't coming to PC, though that may be a case of SSD wanting to get the Xbox version right before expanding to other platforms.
I never had faith they would release much at all, I feel like they only released Horizon because the Decima engine was already working on PC thanks the Death Stranding, I really don't see them going out of their way to make PC. They just don't care and want to sell consoles, I'd love to be proven wrong.
Their top priority should be getting games out on a decent schedule to continue to grow their immediate user base.
In terms of sheer priorities, this ain't it.
In terms of sheer priorities, this ain't it.
Let's be honest, anyone who was expecting substantial PC support from Sony was fooling themselves.
PS3 BC was never an initiative.
PS3 BC was never an initiative.
All they said was "explore the possibility", that's as non-committal as you can get without outright saying "maybe we will, maybe we won't". They didn't say they were going to port all their games or some of their games, just "explore the possibility".
This is what Hermen said when they announced Horizon for PC.
blog.playstation.com
This is what Hermen said when they announced Horizon for PC.
Hermen Hulst Q&A: Interview with Head of PlayStation’s Worldwide Studios
What's next for Guerrilla, upcoming TV and film projects, and the guiding principles that drive PlayStation’s network of world-class game studios.
blog.playstation.com
One of these things is far more important than the other.
This theory doesn't even make that much sense. The game is still (far?) away, we only have a trailer. By this logic, God of War would have been ported as well. It's by far the bigger game and the sequel is also announced for 2021 (of course it's not coming 2021 ...).
Releasing Horizon at the time and in the state they did felt random and didn't go very well. For now, I am not expecting much more PS4/5 games on PC. Rather some random release here and there, but no general release politics like 6 months after the PS launch or so.
This. I wouldn't expect any of the more cinematic AAA PS4 games ported to PC just because they ported one of them because much of the engine work had already been done because of DS. PS4 games at 60fps are also a selling point for PS5.
You expected it???
Horizon seemed to only happen as Death Stranding did and they both share an engine. It seemed like a nice treading of water, not an indication of PS4 exclusives.
Horizon seemed to only happen as Death Stranding did and they both share an engine. It seemed like a nice treading of water, not an indication of PS4 exclusives.
Eh, more PC ports from Sony would be nice, but expecting it on any regularity at this point seems overly optimistic. This really feels like their was/is a internal corporate champion(s) with enough pull to make Horizon happen, but if they leave or lose said pull the internet will years from now be talking about that weird time Sony ported one or two of their big games to the PC.
With that said we are all just talking out of our asses, myself included. Almost all of the "that will never happen" posts probably said the same thing about an Horizon PC port not that long ago.
With that said we are all just talking out of our asses, myself included. Almost all of the "that will never happen" posts probably said the same thing about an Horizon PC port not that long ago.
Hey, Era boasts several extremely certified insiders who are extremely confident in their gossip, thank you very much.
There's zero chance that this would ever bring over any notable number of people, so nah.
so days gone is coming to pc too because its on unreal 4, sick
lmao, engine has nothing to do with Horizon releasing on PC.. especially consideirngit was outsourced for HZD and DS was in a far better technical state.
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they just talked like that to make shareholders happy and shut up. It also wouldn't surprise me if they just keep porting their b-tier games like Helldivers or multiplayer focused games like Predator.
I doubt they would do it like Microsoft and port every game they have. Even years after they came out.
I doubt they would do it like Microsoft and port every game they have. Even years after they came out.
Are port beggin threads not allowed here? If you are a PC only gamer yo know that you need patience for game ports.
Yeah, I really don't think they bankrolled a port, one they seemed to have spent more time than they would've liked fixing, just so PC only gamers would buy a PS4 or PS5 since the game is cross gen. I would've thought a more reasonable and cheaper approach to that goal would be giving the game away on PS+ or the PS+ Collection.
I don't know that there was ever a consistent strategy laid out? Also they just released a new console so I'd imagine they wouldn't want to take the focus away from that...either way, it's too early to make a call on their "strategy" lol.
I think calling it a 'ports strategy' is perhaps overselling it. They put some of their games out on PC. They tried day one PC releases with Predator. Tried a big AAA release with Horizon.
I don't think they ever promised what else was to come or that they had some huge strategy for the PC market.
I don't think they ever promised what else was to come or that they had some huge strategy for the PC market.
If you care about those Sony IP and games to the extent that you're banging the door down after 6 months for an explanation of where the games are, then you should just buy a PS5.
The PS5 remains the focus and PC will be a secondary consideration. That won't change. For many PC gamers who are willing to wait, that should be absolutely fine.
Put simply, either buy a PS5 or learn some patience.
The PS5 remains the focus and PC will be a secondary consideration. That won't change. For many PC gamers who are willing to wait, that should be absolutely fine.
Put simply, either buy a PS5 or learn some patience.
While Covid has likely affected it, I don't think it is wise to think Sony will port the majority or even half of their exclusive catalog to pc. I'm sure it will get some, but they want to sell PlayStations too and software on their platforms for greater profit margins. Xbox of course makes their games for PC often too, tho I would believe PS sells a lot more copies of their biggest first party games at full price. I mean Miles Morales already did 4.1M in 45 days, and I imagine will clear 7-8M, maybe 10M by the end of 2021.
I think 1-2 per year with the games being 3-4 years old is the most we should expect. Largely tho if you want to play PS exclusives in a timely manner you will have to do so on a PlayStation unless something changes
I think 1-2 per year with the games being 3-4 years old is the most we should expect. Largely tho if you want to play PS exclusives in a timely manner you will have to do so on a PlayStation unless something changes
What strategy?
We have one data point to look at here, and nothing else. Either the strategy is their support of PC will continue to be limited at best going forward, or they haven't actually moved forward with their PC plans in earnest at this point (And when that will be and in what form, who knows, because Sony has never said what it will look like).
If people saw the Horizon announcement and thought, "Wow! In 6 months I'll be playing all the PS4 exclusives on PC!" I don't know what to tell you.
We have one data point to look at here, and nothing else. Either the strategy is their support of PC will continue to be limited at best going forward, or they haven't actually moved forward with their PC plans in earnest at this point (And when that will be and in what form, who knows, because Sony has never said what it will look like).
If people saw the Horizon announcement and thought, "Wow! In 6 months I'll be playing all the PS4 exclusives on PC!" I don't know what to tell you.
It ultimately depends on how successful their current PC ports are, they wouldn't have even considered this business move if it didn't add further value to the PlayStation brand.
There was never a stated PC strategy, if anything what was said was Horizon was a chance to show PC players what they could expect from PlayStation. As in release Horizon on PC so more people would buy Horizon 2 on PS5.
Wouldn't be surprised if they do it again to line up with another game getting a sequel. But doesn't seem like they're committed to releasing on PC as a standard.
Wouldn't be surprised if they do it again to line up with another game getting a sequel. But doesn't seem like they're committed to releasing on PC as a standard.
This, plus I figured that they picked HZD specifically to build hype for the sequel on the PS5. If people liked it on PC, maybe they'll get a PS5 just for Forbidden West, who knows.
Oh, and COVID.
People love to bring up this 'same engine' talk for Horizon, since the engine is already "on PC" due to Death Stranding. Days Gone and Bloodborne engines are also on PC so where are they? I believe they chose Horizon for a reason but I don't think the engine was the main reason. Surely Days Gone would have been the first since it's on UE4?
In a recent episode of Triple Click, Jason, Kirk, and Maddy gave predictions about what would happen in gaming in 2021, and specified that they couldn't make predictions based on any insider/actual knowledge. At some point during the episode, I want to say Jason said something along the lines of "you'll notice I haven't made any predictions regarding Sony games coming to PC," which leads me to believe we may hear more news on PC ports this year.
I also could just be reading into things way too much!
I also could just be reading into things way too much!
Horizon was a market tester yes, but I can guarantee that the rest of their PC plans are on hold right now not only because of Covid but because they want people to buy into the PS5. If I had to guess, later this year we'll get an announcement of God of War coming to PC before GOW5 comes out exclusively on PS5.
They've shown they're open to the practically free money of bringing games to PC, and PS4 hardware is very similar to PC hardware, so it really will be only a matter of time
They've shown they're open to the practically free money of bringing games to PC, and PS4 hardware is very similar to PC hardware, so it really will be only a matter of time
Are people expecting Sony to put all their games on PC (or even the vast majority) while a console is still current?
Who would buy a PS5 when you could play Series and PS5 exclusive games on PC?
Expect more PS4 games to hit PC in the coming months/years, but don't expect games to hit PC less than a year or two after Sony's made their money on their own platforms.
Who would buy a PS5 when you could play Series and PS5 exclusive games on PC?
Expect more PS4 games to hit PC in the coming months/years, but don't expect games to hit PC less than a year or two after Sony's made their money on their own platforms.
Exactly Priority is PS5 right now and because their model is currently working well, PC ports are a secondary source of revenue only right now. Don't expect that to change however once the ports do start and without any issues like horizon faced, expect some games which have potential to sell a lot, to be ported to PC after a year or two.
They've invested 50M in a playstation PC business for ports, so there is a business model surrounding it from sony at the very least. There's already a thread on it if you wanna check the the source of it.
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Sony isn't Microsoft. The fact that they are entertaining PC releases for their titles AT ALL is a pretty major step for them. You're never going to get those first-party releases day 1 on PC, that was never going to be in the cards. They're still very much a console-focused company and given how well they are doing there? You'll get ports here and there but I don't know why you would expect them to have some big initiative to port all their games to PC.
To be fair, we all said the same thing about the rest of their games including Horizon Zero Dawn, and then out of nowhere it was ported to PC. Sony opened up this can of worms with regards to semi reasonable expectations of an eventual port