That's the best part of this generation, because graphics were already great. Performance and speed is what was lacking before.
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I'm kind of.........underwhelmed by this new generation so far.
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Destiny update for PS5 has already given me my next gen moment.
I'm an easy person to please tho.
I'm an easy person to please tho.
I went from a base PS4 which I played and completed Control on. Played Control Ultimate on my PS5 and it was a huge jump in performance/load times. Was a wow moment for me thinking back to my PS4 playthrough.
Playing Demon's Souls now and it's seriously impressive coming off Bloodborne at 30 FPS.
Playing Demon's Souls now and it's seriously impressive coming off Bloodborne at 30 FPS.
First full year of transition last time, 2014, was a weak year for the new consoles as well. So not shocked on my end plus we added COVID related delays into the mix. Hopefully all this means is we'll have a real amazing 2022.
I'm beyond impressed by both next gen systems and I already had my "wow this is next gen" moment with both. I have a 3080 and I still think both consoles are impressive af and formidable alternatives to high end PC gaming experience.
Can't say that I agree. I mainly played on PC because 30 FPS sucks and shouldn't exist. 60 FPS in every new game I've played so far plus a bunch of PS4 exclusives that I haven't played yet updated to 60fps means the start of this gen is already better than the last two.
I'm super happy. I can go from cold boot to playing my game right where I left off in < 30 seconds instead of 5 minutes. All of my stuff came forward but plays better. 120 FPS in Sea of Thieves is stunning. Just did some awesome couch coop MCC last night also 120 FPS. I'm getting to play games like Control with features like ray tracing without spending hundreds/thousands on a PC I don't have room for. MS and Sony both have fantastic pipelines coming.
Like, yeah there isn't much yet that makes you go "oh my god, next gen!" just from visuals, but once you move up the experience is just 100x better compared to PS4/XB1.
Like, yeah there isn't much yet that makes you go "oh my god, next gen!" just from visuals, but once you move up the experience is just 100x better compared to PS4/XB1.
I have a 3090 with both next-gen consoles and I agree with this statement 100%.
What's so surprising about that.
my first game will be Persona 5 Strikers which I got a couple of days ago.
How is it not surprising to buy an entire console and not play a single game, especially since the PS5 comes with one of the most charming little games pre-installed?
Frankly new generations aren't very exciting on their own for the average person (like me), heavily reliant on titles. It doesn't help that the benefits of a new Gen become progressively harder to see - they're there if you take a look at load times, fidelity, options, etc. It's just less apparent than prior is all, and that's not such a bad thing.
Some great titles are out, absolutely, but the new Gen is mostly just about continuing to play games rather than a new console doing new things - for me it feels a lot like the last two generations are just one larger generation, I guess?
Some great titles are out, absolutely, but the new Gen is mostly just about continuing to play games rather than a new console doing new things - for me it feels a lot like the last two generations are just one larger generation, I guess?
well, I really have no time to play games I'm not interested to play, if that makes sense.
Aside from Demon Souls and NBA 2K21 there's nothing exclusive about the new systems
Fast loading is a neat feature though
Still crazy that PS5 was going for 1K in November
Fast loading is a neat feature though
Still crazy that PS5 was going for 1K in November
The push towards 60fps with higher resolutions is impressive enough. Transformative new types of gameplay are unlikely to coincide with new generations - they'll happen organically.
There is always a shortage of next gen only content in the first year and especially with this generation of consoles with the extent of shortages, people who have these consoles are in the minority so far. Add on to that a pandemic and multiple lockdowns or restrictions throughout the world and it's actually pretty impressive we have anything at all. Consoles and especially next-gen consoles are a luxury item and I fully expect people should jump in when they see the value not because they want the next thing (even though of course that aspect will always exist). I personally would not say I am underwhelmed but it is exactly what I expected it to be given both context and looking at the facets of the next gen before deciding on purchase. Consoles are a 5 - 7 year cycle often enough, we are not even part way through year 1 yet; its okay to be underwhelmed but it is also important to manage expectations given context and that these are long-term investments.
And it was warranted every single time. Which is why I haven't bought a console at launch since the Gamecube. :)
I'm not sure how to discuss when we're this forehead deep in subjectivity. The leap in asset fidelity Demon's Souls brings, while running at 60fps, is just at a glance far beyond anything running on the PS4 Pro. On a technical level it's a showcase of what wasn't possible on previous hardware.
How am I to respond when one feels it barely looks different than last-gen gaming? All I can say is I vehemently disagree, and that it's only a preview of what is to come.
It's been three freaking months. I don't know why people expect next gens to be some sort of life changing experience right out of the gate. The only times I ever "felt" the jump like that was with the N64 and the Wii.
I think it'll be a bad gen for Sony first party fans, or at least a bad couple years, but third parties will heavily pick up the slack. There will be no shortage of great games to play, but with scarcity the way it is and with the market leader's insistence on leaving a huge part of that market behind, expect crossgen to continue longer than ever before.
The reality of this pandemic is hitting everyone hard. Game developers are no different. I'm sure the extreme shortages in consoles world wide are also very discouraging to publishers. They probably don't feel the need to push out new exclusive content if the machines are selling out anyway.
That said, I thought Demon Souls looked amazing. Loading times are also a huge improvement. Faster than I'm used to on PC, which is typically way faster than consoles. I'm eagerly anticipating Ratchet later this year.
Honestly, I'm pretty happy that we are getting a constant stream of games on every platform without any breaks. We should really be thankful for that.
That said, I thought Demon Souls looked amazing. Loading times are also a huge improvement. Faster than I'm used to on PC, which is typically way faster than consoles. I'm eagerly anticipating Ratchet later this year.
Honestly, I'm pretty happy that we are getting a constant stream of games on every platform without any breaks. We should really be thankful for that.
I've been thinking a lot lately about the technological wall we seem to be hitting.
Sure, 4K at 60fps is great - and I expect it across the board this gen. BUT, I also know that fidelity / visuals are hitting a wall in terms of devs being tapped out. Games today look damn GOOD - not sure how much more we can push it.
And in terms of new, original and unique IP - it seems we're slowing down on that front these days as well. Too much risk and too littler promise for reward; especially with big publishers.
Sure, 4K at 60fps is great - and I expect it across the board this gen. BUT, I also know that fidelity / visuals are hitting a wall in terms of devs being tapped out. Games today look damn GOOD - not sure how much more we can push it.
And in terms of new, original and unique IP - it seems we're slowing down on that front these days as well. Too much risk and too littler promise for reward; especially with big publishers.
Going from base PS4 to PS5 I'm definitely impressed playing on a 4K tv. But really the best feature is the quick loading and I'm glad it got highlighted in FF7 R PS5 reveal again. Hopefully more games will ditch the PS4 and focus on PS5 soon
Idk. Playing Astrobot with the dual sense and demon and spidey at 60fps looking as beautiful and loading as fast as they do has been enough for me. Days gone and god of war look and play so much better but I can understand if someone already played and beat those games. Console launches are rarely worth it but I feel the ps5 has had the best launch of any Sony console. Series x was a little disappointing to me because there wasn't any major exclusive and I have a 3080.
It's been the opposite for me, this gen is already blowing me away. Even though there isn't really shit available during the first 1-2 years of a new console (and who knows what impact COVID will have on that) and we are hitting the point of diminishing returns on graphics, I am playing far more games with PS5/XSX thanks to the load times being so fast. I don't have much time to play, so it is huge to be able to boot the console up and be in-game so quickly.
Obviously things aren't perfect (especially with PS5 having a laughably small SSD), but I love it so far.
Obviously things aren't perfect (especially with PS5 having a laughably small SSD), but I love it so far.
Look at just some of the games we got from PlayStation in the year leading up to the PS5 launch:
Persona 5 Royale
The Last of Us 2
Dreams
Ghost of Tsushima
Final Fantasy 7 Remake
Nioh 2
And many, many more giving us one of the best final years of a console ever before its successor comes out. Then we look at some of the launch games for the PS5:
Spider-Man Miles Morales
Demon's Souls
Astrobot
Sackboy
And many more games, giving us one of the strongest PlayStation console launches ever. The launch window would've been much more appealing if Cyberpunk hadn't shat the bed also. Then we have a gander at what they had planned for a 2021 release:
Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart
Horizon Forbidden West
God of War 2
Gran Turismo 7
Returnal
And many, many more. Covid obviously fucked up some plans there and things got pushed back, but those are unavoidable, especially since no one wants a repeat of what happened with Cyberpunk. PS gamers have had one helluva run this past year and more heavy hitters are on the horizon. It's not for lack of trying that we don't have quite as many games to play right now as we would have had in a world where Covid didn't happen. Also as with any new gen it'll take time for developers to fully leverage the power of the consoles so the games we'll be seeing in the next couple of years should far surpass what we're seeing right now. That's how it always is, and will continue to be since game dev is such a lengthy process.
Persona 5 Royale
The Last of Us 2
Dreams
Ghost of Tsushima
Final Fantasy 7 Remake
Nioh 2
And many, many more giving us one of the best final years of a console ever before its successor comes out. Then we look at some of the launch games for the PS5:
Spider-Man Miles Morales
Demon's Souls
Astrobot
Sackboy
And many more games, giving us one of the strongest PlayStation console launches ever. The launch window would've been much more appealing if Cyberpunk hadn't shat the bed also. Then we have a gander at what they had planned for a 2021 release:
Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart
Horizon Forbidden West
God of War 2
Gran Turismo 7
Returnal
And many, many more. Covid obviously fucked up some plans there and things got pushed back, but those are unavoidable, especially since no one wants a repeat of what happened with Cyberpunk. PS gamers have had one helluva run this past year and more heavy hitters are on the horizon. It's not for lack of trying that we don't have quite as many games to play right now as we would have had in a world where Covid didn't happen. Also as with any new gen it'll take time for developers to fully leverage the power of the consoles so the games we'll be seeing in the next couple of years should far surpass what we're seeing right now. That's how it always is, and will continue to be since game dev is such a lengthy process.
Right now my PS5 is a PS4 Pro Max. It's basically quality of life things like a faster interface, loading, and haptic feedback.
Yeah I shouldn't have bothered getting a PS5, thing has like no games. Demon's Souls and Astro are the only 2 exclusive PS5 games I've gotten, I know there are other games but I'm not into Ubisoft or Call of Duty
