I prefer 60 for sure, but don't find 30 unplayable at all. Being stable is the main thing for me.
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I'm completely spoiled by 60fps and can't go back to 30fps anymore. Anyone feel the same way?
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I really wonder if this is even real, there's no way you can't see the difference.
I think I'm still fine with 30, depending on the game, but yeah my thirst for 60 gets more desperate by the day. When I was young I remember playing PC games at shockingly low framerates just so I could keep all the bells and whistles cranked. Now I tend to tweak like hell to make sure I never notice any hitches.
If the game is good enough, I'll tolerate 30fps.
But there have been more than a handful of games where 30fps has been a deal-breaker to me. This is especially true in games where there's literally no reason for them being 30fps. Crash Team Racing is a good example; here's a game that runs on a Switch, and yet we can't get 60fps on a PS4 Pro!?
It's almost universally a deal-breaker to me if a "remaster" or port of a previous gen (or older) game is still 30fps. Like, why even bother?
But there have been more than a handful of games where 30fps has been a deal-breaker to me. This is especially true in games where there's literally no reason for them being 30fps. Crash Team Racing is a good example; here's a game that runs on a Switch, and yet we can't get 60fps on a PS4 Pro!?
It's almost universally a deal-breaker to me if a "remaster" or port of a previous gen (or older) game is still 30fps. Like, why even bother?
30fps is perfectly fine. As long as it doesnt go below 25 which is when I notice the drop I'm fully ok with 30. Only where 60fps adds significantly to the experience, say fast racegames and FPS games, I would say it's rather important because you want that precision and smoothness. I don't need that in RDR2 or God of War.
I can deal no problem if I don't have a choice, like with exclusive console games, but when you get used to 60+ it can be jarring if you switched between the same game.
It's never bothered me as long as it's locked. I play league and Overwatch at 144 FPS. I then go to play iceborn at 60 and FFXV at 30.
I notice the difference when I switch games but it's no big deal.
I notice the difference when I switch games but it's no big deal.
I regularly play games on both PC and console, sometimes the same games at two different FPS. Monster Hunter World, for example. I prefer 60+fps, of course, but I have no problem jumping back and forth.
It depends but yes. I go back and forth regularly as I play on PC and Console, and while 30 fps is definitely inferior, it works just fine in some instances. It just takes some time to adjust.
Sometimes having objectively less information can get really weird though.
Sometimes having objectively less information can get really weird though.
I can get used to 30 FPS in slower paced games like RPGs etc, but 60 FPS is always better of course. Even a flat-looking game Paper Mario 2 just feels so good at the higher frame rate.
Most recently I found the 30 FPS mode of Forza Horizon 4 particularly objectionable and even a bit nauseating, but the heavy use of motion blur by default might be a contributing factor as well there.
Most recently I found the 30 FPS mode of Forza Horizon 4 particularly objectionable and even a bit nauseating, but the heavy use of motion blur by default might be a contributing factor as well there.
One of the best ways to feel the difference between 30 and 60 fps is playing the LAst Of US Remaster on PS4 in 60fps for a few hours and then start playing it in 30fps (you can change it in th eoptions). It's horrible. Like going through tar or bad slow motion.
But to be perfectly honest even if i do prefer 60fps over 30fps i don't have a problem with games being 30 fps. Especially if the fps are nearly locked.
Just going from one to the other isn't a good idea.
But to be perfectly honest even if i do prefer 60fps over 30fps i don't have a problem with games being 30 fps. Especially if the fps are nearly locked.
Just going from one to the other isn't a good idea.
I am honestly having a Hard time remembering the last time I beat game that hovered around 30 fps constantly or was just half refresh 30.
Crysis?
Even the old console Stuff I have been playing always seemed target 60 now that I think about it.
It has been a while.
I experimentd with coming to Grips with 30 in 2015 but decided in the end it just was too janky looking for me even with the best per object blurs.
Crysis?
Even the old console Stuff I have been playing always seemed target 60 now that I think about it.
It has been a while.
I experimentd with coming to Grips with 30 in 2015 but decided in the end it just was too janky looking for me even with the best per object blurs.
My wife doesn't see it. She also simply does not care. So yeah, there are people that don't see the difference. She also doesn't notice HDR on/off.
And I feel bad for you, OP. You are and going to be missing a lot of great games if you can't handle 30fps anymore.
I personally don't really care. Sure, 60 is always better, but a fairly steady 30fps works fine for me. I'm used to that within 5 minutes.
Of course I prefer 60, but 30 is totally playable for me unless we are talking about a fighting game or racing game.
Over 60fps I don't care and I think the technical resources would be better invested in other areas.
Over 60fps I don't care and I think the technical resources would be better invested in other areas.
I'm kinda 50/50 on this. I do prefer 60fps all the way, but I also have no problem with a locked 33.3ms with consistent frame-pacing in TP games, e.g. Uncharted 4. For FP perspective, I can't do 30fps, even if it's consistent. FP + lower FOV, with the addition of input lag combined with 30Hz just isn't fun to play.
I'm with you OP. I wish 60fps would go BACK to being standard, as it was during the 16 bit era. And here's the usual reminder - it's not the hardware's fault there are so many 30fps games, but the developers who decide to prioritise visuals over framerate.
Also OP, are you aware Doom Eternal will be 60fps on PS4 and XBox?
Also OP, are you aware Doom Eternal will be 60fps on PS4 and XBox?
Those who are mentioning you cannot see the difference down side of 60 probably aren't realizing that your desktop is usually running at 60FPS and its the reason why visuals on your desktop feels smooth, I'd ask you to try setting your desktop's monitor refresh rate to 30 Hertz (or 48 Hertz) (if available) to check how crude it feels.
Right Click on Desktop area -> Display Settings -> (scroll down) Advanced Display Settings -> Display Adapter Properties -> Montor -> Screen Refresh Rate -> set it to anything lower than 60 if available
Right Click on Desktop area -> Display Settings -> (scroll down) Advanced Display Settings -> Display Adapter Properties -> Montor -> Screen Refresh Rate -> set it to anything lower than 60 if available
I'm absolutely surprised that so many people are fine with 30fps. I play a lot of Destiny 2 lately on PC and Console. All my friends are on PS4 so I have to deal with 30fps if I want to play with them and its utter trash. With the narrow FOV and 30 fps its almost a different game.
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I do not buy 30 fps games anymore. I am used to a 165hz Gsync Monitor, 30fps is absolutely unplayable for me and gives me a headache.
I really wanted to play Bloodborne on PS4 but the 30fps and horrible frametiming makes it completely unenjoyable for me. :( Hoping for a PC version with unlocked framerate...
I really wanted to play Bloodborne on PS4 but the 30fps and horrible frametiming makes it completely unenjoyable for me. :( Hoping for a PC version with unlocked framerate...
No. 60 actually feels odd in certain games for me, and camera panning at 60fps can make me sick in open world games with lots of detail. I feel much more at ease in Breath of the Wild than in The Witcher 3 in performance mode.
Do you feel offended?
If your feelings are hurt over someone else's gaming preferences then there's something seriously wrong with you.
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60 is the minimum for me for action, there are some developers that still lock their action game PC ports to 60fps.
Namely every single Omega Force port (One Piece Pirate Warriors 4, Attack on Titan 2, Warriors Orochi 4 etc.) Makes no sense to me in current year or for games that would benefit tremendously from it with the amount of screen panning and enemies on-screen.
Namely every single Omega Force port (One Piece Pirate Warriors 4, Attack on Titan 2, Warriors Orochi 4 etc.) Makes no sense to me in current year or for games that would benefit tremendously from it with the amount of screen panning and enemies on-screen.
You're on the crazy juice if 30 is fine. It feels unresponsive and can get really frustrating from that lack of response. Juddery, messy, etc.
60 fps and above is just delicious. You see all the touches in animations, your inputs feel true, its lovely. Firmly in the belief that people who think 30 fps is acceptable and great haven't spent any time playing 60 fps as a majority of their experience.
60 fps and above is just delicious. You see all the touches in animations, your inputs feel true, its lovely. Firmly in the belief that people who think 30 fps is acceptable and great haven't spent any time playing 60 fps as a majority of their experience.
i can go back, cant go back to low 20s anymore tho
really? that gameplay looks pretty smooth for 20
maybe i'd need it infront of me
really? that gameplay looks pretty smooth for 20
maybe i'd need it infront of me
I think developers should be forward thinking and include unlocked framerates options in console games next gen. There is nothing special about 30fps, especially not on a VRR display.
If next gen is as long as this one then I'm sure a lot of us will have new displays by the time it's over.
This. Fuck some console games where the frame rate can be everything between 15 to 60fps.
But yeah, rock solid 30fps is perfectly fine.
I think you've got it on the head, options, as and when they work for the experience the devs are trying to deliver. Unlocked framerates in addition to a locked consistent point is a great idea, I agree. Works for everyone regardless of display or assumptions.
I can usually adjust but it can sometimes be really jarring. I was recently playing Forza Horizon 4 on PC at 90+fps then switched to some DriveClub (which I love) at 30fps and I almost gave up; it felt horrible.
I find it's much easier to adjust if I haven't come directly from a high frame/refresh rate game.
I find it's much easier to adjust if I haven't come directly from a high frame/refresh rate game.
60 is way better, but I feel like yall who "cant handle 30fps" just need to take a break from 60fps gaming (or like, perservere in 30fps) for like, two days. For me, you get super used to 60 and then everything else looks slow and stilted, but after a day or two you break the habit and 30fps looks "normal" again pretty quick.
