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I'm a believer now. We don't need headphone jacks.
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I've been using wireless headphones for a couple years now, and I like them for casual listening. But I enjoy having a phone that has 3.5 mm input just in case. I don't like having to charge headphones, and sometimes they die on me because of that. It's nice to have a wired set that works 100% of the time guaranteed.
The trend forgoing the headphone jack in smartphones is bad, simply because Bluetooth is not as reliable. Even the best Bluetooth headphones have interference issues. The tech just isn't there yet, and it seems like the average consumer doesn't care about having various alternatives or multiple choices. Someone made a joke about the next MacBook not having a headphone jack ... But it's coming whether we like it or not. If Apple wants to sell more AirPods they will absolutely get rid it and force wire users to buy a special interface to connect the link.
The trend forgoing the headphone jack in smartphones is bad, simply because Bluetooth is not as reliable. Even the best Bluetooth headphones have interference issues. The tech just isn't there yet, and it seems like the average consumer doesn't care about having various alternatives or multiple choices. Someone made a joke about the next MacBook not having a headphone jack ... But it's coming whether we like it or not. If Apple wants to sell more AirPods they will absolutely get rid it and force wire users to buy a special interface to connect the link.
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It's so stupid to remove the jack. Just last weekend I was driving my sister and she wanted me to listen to something on youtube, so I tossed her the audio cable in my car. Nope. She cursed apple for stupidly removing it.
This kind of thing happens constantly. It is pointless, and just jerking around your consumers to make a few extra bucks, with absolutely no benefit to them.
This kind of thing happens constantly. It is pointless, and just jerking around your consumers to make a few extra bucks, with absolutely no benefit to them.
I had to show people some dailies on a video app from my iPad Pro but their audio solution was the industry standard (you could say "pro" really, couldn't you?) analog jack. So I couldn't. There's literally no reason the 12 inch iPad Pro shouldn't have a headphone jack and thousands of reasons why it should.
argue about phones all you like but icing it from an allegedly pro capable video editing and production device is fuckery of the highest order and indefensible.
same for its music applications.
argue about phones all you like but icing it from an allegedly pro capable video editing and production device is fuckery of the highest order and indefensible.
same for its music applications.
They keep ignoring this point. I think it's wilful ignorance at this point.
I use Bluetooth.
I also use my phone through a mixer as a drum sequencer. My mixer has no bluetooth.
I also use my phone through a mixer as a drum sequencer. My mixer has no bluetooth.
I was not referring to plastic cases. I was referring to the engineering behind airpods. It is literally impossible for the average person to replace the batteries once they wear out. Airpods are designed to be disposed of when the batteries go out and the consumer buys new ones. Hopefully they are disposed of properly because they contain lithium ion batteries.
I have excellent headphones that can be used for decades assuming devices will still have headphone jacks. Airpods have a limited lifespan and every time they are charged you get ever closer to the day they crap out.
I moved to wireless a while ago and yes it is more "convenient" and I wasn't doing critical listening on my phones shitty DAC anyway, but what did we gain? I have an S10 and an S8+ that I used before that. Been using wireless on both, but I'm glad they have a jack. It doesn't cost anything for them to keep it, and we aren't getting anything in return for the removal. Only fewer options. And now even fewer phones offer a jack moving forward. *sigh*
Can't you take them to a recycling depot? I do that with all my old electronics.
I use wired at home and wireless when I'm out; headphone jacks should stay. Bluetooth works regardless of the jack. People shouldn't need splitter cables to listen with wired headphones and use accessories or charge their phone at the same time.
It's difficult to do because of tedium, but you can replace all of the batteries in Galaxy Buds once they start going bad. The same should realistically apply for Airpods, and all of the others. If Samsung can do it, everyone else can, too.
But if the headphones work fine other than a dead battery, why would you recycle the entire unit instead of swapping the batteries?
It's difficult to do because of tedium, but you can replace all of the batteries in Galaxy Buds once they start going bad. The same should realistically apply for Airpods, and all of the others. If Samsung can do it, everyone else can, too.
It is convenient to wirelessly stream music on my hearing aids. It's fucking annoying when they run dry or keep distorting due to technical issues.
If a 8.000 bucks device cant manage them, i doubt standard ear pieces can.
So yes, its nice and convenient. However, its not all sunny.
If a 8.000 bucks device cant manage them, i doubt standard ear pieces can.
So yes, its nice and convenient. However, its not all sunny.
But we are still in the cycle of having to continually replace airpods. I have heard something about airpods being difficult to recycle but I am not 100% familiar with that so I will not pursue it.
Fortunately I am not limited to phones. My 2019 model tablet still uses headphone Jack and so does my laptop
I still don't see the appeal and would still be a hindrance in my opinion. I need my headphones to work between my computer, my Switch, and my phone. If only one of those can't make use of it (without clunky workarounds), I'm just inconveniencing myself. And it's not like I'm those people that need to have headphones on every waking minute, so wires don't bother me too much.
While I'm sure wireless is nice, wired headphones are a requirement of PSVR for binaural output, and I'm not buying a separate set for my phone.
My note 9 has a jack, it was part of my must haves along with microsd.
The future is gloomy for me. I don t want to think about battery charge for headphones. Flac and adequate wired headphones sound great, when I make people test my modest setup they are blown away.
The future is gloomy for me. I don t want to think about battery charge for headphones. Flac and adequate wired headphones sound great, when I make people test my modest setup they are blown away.
No, we're atleast 2.
I don't listen to music that much in general though.
Or a lightning adapter like I have in my car AUX wire.
It's a non-issue in my opinion, yes options are good but we don't have an option to play cassettes in our cars anymore either - that's just technology advancing and at some point the old technology will phase out.
genuine question to all the people in here angrily responding to OP: are you going to buy an LG for your next phone? it's literally going to be your only flagship choice in the US now that samsung, oneplus, google etc have followed apple.
personally i don't care because i prefer to use wireless buds 95% of the time, but i do keep an LG V40 around as a portable DAP for my wired headphones because the sound improvement from the DAC is legit. one thing that gets lost in this debate is that a lot of phones with headphone jacks had really shitty DACs and line output (like the original pixel) to the point where wireless actually sounded better.
just interested to know if people will put their money where their mouth is. LG makes pretty good phones but i wouldn't recommend it unless you cared more about the headphone jack than camera quality, for example.
personally i don't care because i prefer to use wireless buds 95% of the time, but i do keep an LG V40 around as a portable DAP for my wired headphones because the sound improvement from the DAC is legit. one thing that gets lost in this debate is that a lot of phones with headphone jacks had really shitty DACs and line output (like the original pixel) to the point where wireless actually sounded better.
just interested to know if people will put their money where their mouth is. LG makes pretty good phones but i wouldn't recommend it unless you cared more about the headphone jack than camera quality, for example.
No you are not. I just think we are an endangered species.
I don't stream music, i don't use my phone to listen to my mp3 files, and even more weird, i don't think i have ever used bluetooth for anything.
Guess i'm old.
Never tried them so i might be wrong but:
Isnt the bluetooth draining your phome battery? Is it easy to sync immediately? Or is there some bugs once in a while?
Isnt the bluetooth draining your phome battery? Is it easy to sync immediately? Or is there some bugs once in a while?
Who says I'm buying a flagship?
Removing jacks from flagships have pushed me to go their mid-tier phones.
For maximum enjoyment of the wireless life I highly recommend playing a rhythm game on your phone using the Jabras. I have the same wireless earbuds, but most days I just use my 15€ wired ones. They're much more convenient not having to worry about where the case is or when I've last charged them. I just plug them in and they work. It doesn't help that the Jabras don't fit me super well so I need to keep adjusting them all the time.
I'm using a Galaxy S8 right now, I think I'll buy an S10 series phone some time this year and then look at my options in 3 years or so. With how phones are these days there's really no need to buy flagship anyway.
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This is it. The choice shouldn't go away just because you don't like wires.
Yep, working out is why I moved to wireless headphones. Love my Jabras. No wires, less of a hassle.
I'm still not a super firm believer in bluetooth, shit cuts out so much it's like listening to CD walkman on a bumby ride.
Agree.
Literally just bought a pair of the Powerbeats Pro last night and It's amazing. Being able to not worry about my earphones not falling off my ears due to sweat is the best thing ever. My last wireless weere the 1st gen Airpods and it only lasted a year... definitely not sweat proof haha. Also the fact that if I sweat too much, it would slip off.. oof.
Pro is beast for workouts which I do almost every single day.
Literally just bought a pair of the Powerbeats Pro last night and It's amazing. Being able to not worry about my earphones not falling off my ears due to sweat is the best thing ever. My last wireless weere the 1st gen Airpods and it only lasted a year... definitely not sweat proof haha. Also the fact that if I sweat too much, it would slip off.. oof.
Pro is beast for workouts which I do almost every single day.
I'd like the choice please, and it seems that choice is being offered in fewer and fewer devices :(
Hear hear. I love wireless headphones, but I want to keep the choice.
In 2020, yeah no need for wires anymore. Plenty of decent and cheap BT headphones on the market now.
When the iPhone 7 released in 2016 tho? I was pretty annoyed.
BT stuff was still pretty expensive and/or low quality (terrible battery life, materials).
posts like this are so weird.
and so is this.
What's wrong with choice? What if people don't want to listen to "cheap BT headphones"? What of the people that don't want to buy into more trash-creating disposable products? In what way does the headphone jack prevent you from buying BT headphones, past or present? What practical benefit do you gain in exchange for the loss of a practical, universal audio plug?
You need to take that up with whatever manufacturer you have a beef with.
Technology is always evolving, killing off products and standards is part of the deal.
Thats the anti-led brigade argument though. I dont think "choice" is really a compelling argument to anyone else except for people who already dislike wireless headphones and want to rationalize their dislike further.
next: "we don't need charging ports"
i tried ditching the headphone jack. i got a OnePlus 6T which even came with a free pair of USB-C earphones. i was a believer until music started constantly pausing/cutting out. the port just isn't as robust as a 3.5mm jack.
i'm not buying wireless ear/headphones that i need to pay way more for and charge up.
i sold my 6T and bought a 3A XL despite it being a less powerful phone. If a phone doesn't have a headphone jack then I'm not buying it. I don't care if that severely limits my choices. They day i ditch it will be the day there are no phones with it and when that comes I'll probably just stop listening to music on my phone
i tried ditching the headphone jack. i got a OnePlus 6T which even came with a free pair of USB-C earphones. i was a believer until music started constantly pausing/cutting out. the port just isn't as robust as a 3.5mm jack.
i'm not buying wireless ear/headphones that i need to pay way more for and charge up.
i sold my 6T and bought a 3A XL despite it being a less powerful phone. If a phone doesn't have a headphone jack then I'm not buying it. I don't care if that severely limits my choices. They day i ditch it will be the day there are no phones with it and when that comes I'll probably just stop listening to music on my phone
Ever since I got a free pair of Bose QC35II from my work I don't use wires as well, but there's literally nothing to lose by keeping the 3.5mm jack so everyone can have a choice and use whatever they want to use.
So, congratulations on "moving forward" I guess, but your conclusion is definitely wrong
So, congratulations on "moving forward" I guess, but your conclusion is definitely wrong
I use in-ears at work and wireless ones wouldn't work for me since I'd put them down somewhere and lose them. Also, I'm not too keen on the idea of having to recharge them.