these sites are not gaming sites anymore. They are media outlets with influencers who can talk fluently about what's trending,but have no clue on the actual product they are doing "journalist work"
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IGN retracts large portion of RE2 review and updates score after it becomes clear their reviewer missed a large chunk of the game.
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these sites are not gaming sites anymore. They are media outlets with influencers who can talk fluently about what's trending,but have no clue on the actual product they are doing "journalist work"
Can't spell ignorance without IGN.
The Ace Combat 7 fiasco and now this in quick succession is a very very bad look.
The Ace Combat 7 fiasco and now this in quick succession is a very very bad look.
It's kind of embarrassing honestly. 25 pages of frustration dedicated for someone being human, over a videogame review
A game reviewer should not be writing a review based on assumptions they have made about things they haven't played.
If they are going to do that, then they at least need to acknowledge it in the review. But that would make the review sound less credible (because it would be), so I imagine most wouldn't bother.
I couldn't help but read this in the voice of videogamedunkey and I can't stop laughing now.
someone's seriously gonna have to explain what the big deal with blocking people on twitter is, 'cause i really don't get it. if i were receiving hundreds - heck, even tens - of very similar corrections, mixed in with random abuse, i'd just start blocking people too. that's what it's there for.
the principle's exactly the same--if a game has multiple endings, i don't expect a reviewer to go out of their way to see all of them. i just found this specific line:
really confusing in the context of, well, so many games having multiple endings. it's totally normal not to go looking for alternate endings once you've seen one--if, having finished a game, i go back to do a second playthrough looking for an alternative ending, it's normally years later.
maybe just do a general post and let people know the situation and that you owned up to it as opposed to running away and waiting for the company to just remove the review itself
That just makes you look like a coward who cant handle criticism
Ace Combat "fiasco?"
Jeesh people. There are times when I think I'd enjoy video games a lot more if I didn't pay attention the conversation surrounding them and this thread is one of them.
Who are these plebe reviewers? LOL. Also, the weighting seems to be completely nonsense if its indeed a .2 improvement on the score?
The increasing lack of empathy around here is getting really scary.
It literally says you get a different ending. I don't think this is vague at all, I don't have a major issue with the reviewer making this mistake as anyone can make mistakes but saying it isn't clear is disingenuous. They make it very clear, the only thing that might have been better is if they recommended you play the 2nd run through, which I believe Nier: Automata does when you finish that.
Yeah, except that
1. You can't compare a 50+ hour RPG with a game with two 4-6 hour campaigns
2. The reviewer ended up playing through the game twice anyway, he just picked the wrong option from the menu and
3. If you're writing a review for the biggest gaming site in the world, and you unlock a new mode in the game you're reviewing, YOU FUCKING TRY IT.
Yeah the different ending is clear, but if that was all it's hard to call it extra content besides that ending.
there are times when it seems like for all the reasons people left NeoGAF, the toxicity follow some people
I believe what probably happened was:
"Well, I finished the game, let's quickly see how the game is with Claire" and he pressed the button without much reading
I stand for my replies I don't represent the thread or any other user.
I see where this is going so I'll ask for moderation and leave. Go on.
People complain about mob mentality in here and are the first ones to exert it, last time I get on an argument in this kind of issue here. I'll take my L and leave, you won.
Man...I gotta say, as someone who used to be a big fan of IGN (especially when NVC was just Jose, Brian and Peer, and Beyond was still Greg and Colin), their output is just piss poor lately - and I really think it has a lot to do with their hiring practices (you know, hiring "personalities" over "gamers/writers").
The guy who got blocked in the OP was not disrespectful at all, just pointed out that it was a mistake. It's childish behavior by the reviewer, and he doubled down on it in his "apology"
You calling someone a gamergater because you don't agree with them is a shit thing to do. The reviewer doesn't deserve to be harassed but it is a pretty big mistake that seems like he wasn't paying attention. It doesn't seem like an easy mistake to make.
Also this to.
1. i just did :) more seriously, i was responding to the idea that a prompt saying 'you could unlock a new ending' is something it'd be weird for a reviewer to ignore. i disagree, because, well, a whole bunch of games have multiple endings that you can unlock in esoteric ways--i don't expect reviewers to search for all of them.
2. yeh it's a bad menu
3. nah, i've unlocked a bunch of new game plus modes and never touched the option, and i still consider myself to have finished those games. i don't expect more from reviewers, 'cause that'd be weird.
when you're getting hundreds of corrections, mixed in with abuse, you just jam that block button on the lot. folks aren't obligated to carefully consider every message they get on twitter before deciding to block someone--sometimes, the volume's just too great, and really, what's the point anyway?
Except Daemon has been on the staff for many, many years. And absolutely loves all things horror. So I believe this was just an honest mistake.
What about the pop up and that is calls the 2nd run the "second scenario" on the title screen? Would you still just assume that it's a replay after seeing those?
Oh shit, I didn't even realize it was Daemon (I had a quick look at the OP and thought he had just commented on the growing story).
Fair play, then - yeah, probably an honest mistake.
But I stand by my statement, to be honest. Their content has been getting worse and worse and it's kind of sad to see.
I don't see how it's unclear at all, the text at the bottom even says second scenario.
I think they should have just taken out the paragraph with the mistake and left the score as it was. Adding 0.2 to the score seems like a thing they decided to do to make people less mad, but in reality, it calls more things into question regarding the review.
tldr: I'm not a fan of numbers
tldr: I'm not a fan of numbers
While I would say we give him the benefit of the doubt, it's been known since the original game since 1998 that there is a side A, Side B playthrough. It's also been known out in public for the remake as well.
It's one thing if it was a really young editor or reviewer over at IGN one that never remembered the original game. But it's Daemon? Guy has been around for a long time.
It shows a lack of understanding the product your reviewing. It's like if there was a new Ipod and some 20 something kid reviews it for Endgadget, and reviewed it like it was this super new thing. Not referencing the IPOD's history since 2002-2003.
Theres a screenshot earlier in the thread and it says "2nd Run"
How would i know its some new story?
Doenst matter now anyway. But i think people are overreacting to this.
First Phillip, now this.
Ever since Greg Miller, and Colin left feel like IGN been slowly dying. They have tried desperately it seems to get a crew together.
Ever since Greg Miller, and Colin left feel like IGN been slowly dying. They have tried desperately it seems to get a crew together.
Want to know what using language like "coward" in the context of a games writer blocking someone on Twitter makes you look like?
Christ, this thread is embarrassing. Am I back on GAF?
No, but are you saying i cant call out gaming journalists for behavior i don't think is right?
Like he could've literally clicked on the mode and see how it went. I thought reviewers should be checking all modes and options to see what's available anyway.
No, I'm saying you're hugely overreacting and calling the dude a "coward" makes it sound like you're euphoric in this moment.
Thats fair enough but does it come up on the screen telling you specifically that a new scenario?
All i have have seen is the main title saying 2nds run.
Genuine question if you have finished it.
I don't know what's going on over there at IGN, but it seems they are at this burnout stage. I know Daemon does a lot over there, i wonder if this was overlooked because people are overworked, and game playing is secondary?
Me as someone with zero clarity and having not played the game, 'new game second run' sounds like a new game plus after beating the game on regular mode.
It's not 100% clear if you put me on the spot with no knowledge let's not pretend it's the clearest thing ever lol. He still fucked up of course, I'm not saying he didn't. As a reviewer he should have clicked that to see in theory what it is since he's reviewing the whole game.
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This place is billion times more toxic than GAF ever was. That is 100% fact
This pops up when you finish the game the first time:
So yes, it does tell you. You would have to both ignore this screen and the description in the main menu to miss it. Something that none of the other reviewers of the game missed.
This pops up when you finish the game the first time:
So yes, it does tell you.
Cool, thanks. I didnt see that previously in the thread, only the title screen.
Well, I cant defend this guy seem this.this ain't his first rodeo
