so maybe it wasn't that he couldn't work fast enough but that he was incapable of the work in the first place?
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IGN plagiarist finally apologises. Again. Apparently.
- Thread starter Shaneus
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so maybe it wasn't that he couldn't work fast enough but that he was incapable of the work in the first place?
sure why not. your guess is as good as mine. You should ask Flip.
Fucking this so much. I mean heck he demonstrated he has some skills with video editing, why wouldn't he try find work on that field instead?
That's because it's a unique phrase, unlike something Filip would say.
What does this guy even bring to the table that isn't provided by dozens of others who actually have integrity? He never demonstrated he was an asset to the industry in the first place. Why should anyone care about his struggle for redemption?
Ding ding ding. He outright plagiarized his goddamn Linkedin profile before he even got the job.
Yep. It wasn't even a one time thing, the dude clearly has tendencies and/or disorders that make him very unfit for the field. Besides, it's not like we're sending him to the gulags or something. The dude came from a YT background, so he clearly has some skills for hosting and video editing. As someone already mentioned, he should really pursue that, instead
Good lord who cares anymore. Let's all leave this dude in the rearview and not play into his apology tour.
Filip is very disingenuous. I'd be upset if I got caught stealing someone's work, but his level of disingenuity and faux repentance seems disproportionate, Chris Scullion didn't kill any of his loved ones. Filip as a reporter has an influence on others and his extreme reaction could (and have) inspire toxic rage attacks on the guy - that's not okay.
Fuck this dude. He probably is only doing this because he realizes his career and relevancy are dwindling into nothing. He doesn't deserve attention. He doesn't deserve a career in games. Let him go flip burgers or something.
As someone with a background in journalism and public relations (not video game industry) who has been involved in the hiring process, I just wanted to leave some thoughts about him being "allowed" back into games media. He could do whatever he likes on his own, but I would never, under any circumstances, hire someone with his reputation for a position related to content creation. For a crappy, minimum wage internship I got nearly 50 applicants, and quite honestly, more than half of them would have probably done a pretty good job. Filip has good editing skills, but he's going up against many others who do as well. The difference is that whoever hires him would never be able to trust that his work is original, and all it would take is perhaps one busy day filled with deadlines for Filip to fall into old habits. It's just easier to give the job to someone else without all that baggage. Nothing to do with not liking the guy.
Again, it's nothing groundbreaking -- just my 2 cents.
Again, it's nothing groundbreaking -- just my 2 cents.
Nice to see a kind heart in this forum lol, going against the standard mob mentality here
people are so mean to each other; doubly so on the net. it's a sickness. this scullion person does not have to forgive the plagiarist - that's their prerogative. but the way they did it just added more bile to the water.
there's no victory here. only more cruelty.
I watched it. It did not feel sincere, specially since I saw that his videos from one yeaf ago were getting hundreds of thousands of views and his more recent videos are getting 20 to 40 thousand at most.
What I would respect at least was if he went to any of the outlets he wronged, or the guy who wrote the dead cells review he stole, and offered an interview to them on their channels that they could monetize, and be completely open on any questions they had. That way he could give back to them a little with the monetization money and be able to explain in depth his thinking, and not say "I will be original" in the end, which means shit. He was vague in showing he understands the real scope of the damage he did, 8 months too late.
I ignored him after it all happened, and came back for this one video where he had the chance to maybe gather some positive attention back but it failed, again.
Back to not thinking about him again.
What I would respect at least was if he went to any of the outlets he wronged, or the guy who wrote the dead cells review he stole, and offered an interview to them on their channels that they could monetize, and be completely open on any questions they had. That way he could give back to them a little with the monetization money and be able to explain in depth his thinking, and not say "I will be original" in the end, which means shit. He was vague in showing he understands the real scope of the damage he did, 8 months too late.
I ignored him after it all happened, and came back for this one video where he had the chance to maybe gather some positive attention back but it failed, again.
Back to not thinking about him again.
I think he should be forgiven
I also think he should never be hired to work in journalism again. In my experience dealing with good or aggressive liars, I've found if he was capable of acting like that then going on the offensive he is likely to return to those habits.
He sat back and let his minions go on the attack in his honor.
I also think he should never be hired to work in journalism again. In my experience dealing with good or aggressive liars, I've found if he was capable of acting like that then going on the offensive he is likely to return to those habits.
He sat back and let his minions go on the attack in his honor.
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Yep, somebodys pockets got hit hard enough over 8 months for him to realize his fake non apology angle wasnt going to work. Now hes ready to ACTUALLY apologize to try and open doors for himself.
Hopefully he never gets his audience and clicks back. It's bullshit that he needed 6+ months before finally apologizing.
You're telling me real life redemption arcs aren't like my animes?
He can, in a different field. That said this apology likely only came because he was not making money off of denying the crime.
I was reading the comments on that video and it looks like he either created 100 google accounts or he has a ton of fans.
I believe in second chances, but he had his and chose to instead double down. Even with a 3rd chance he still didn't take responsibility. This isn't a case where rehabilitation, as I've seen others reference, applies. He's an adult, he didn't need 8 months to understand stealing is wrong.
Im sure he does, but a Youtuber ain't making a living off a few hundred people.
Dude needs to actually start building up a credible portfolio he can actually call his own before he can even start think about recovering any sort of reputation in the industry. Even then, the way he doubled and tripled down only tells me this dude isn't worth the shot. He blew whatever good will he had by inciting his fanbase to go after others and challenge the integrity of others to save his own ass.
Lame attempt by a lamer person.
Lame attempt by a lamer person.
i was going to say, eh, maybe its ok we do forgive him - even if it took 8 months...
then i saw chris's tweets. ok. yeah, i'm fine if this guy disappears into obscurity.
then i saw chris's tweets. ok. yeah, i'm fine if this guy disappears into obscurity.
I never harboured any ill will toward him, so there's nothing to forgive. I was just baffled by how huge of a dumbass he was and entertained by the fallout, which he only made worse for himself.
For all I care, he's more than welcome to look for a new job in the gaming media. I doubt he'll find one, but if he does, I'll know to never pay attention to that site because their credibility will immediately be shot. And that's not "not forgiving" him, it's not forgetting what he did.
For all I care, he's more than welcome to look for a new job in the gaming media. I doubt he'll find one, but if he does, I'll know to never pay attention to that site because their credibility will immediately be shot. And that's not "not forgiving" him, it's not forgetting what he did.
Whatever portfolio he could built up will always be met with a side eye (and with good reason). Outside of his own youtube channel, he'll never have a career in media.
Better late than never.
Whether he's genuine or not, I don't really care. I've no intention of engaging with his content (nor did I prior to his plagiarism anyway) but I believe in giving people chances to be better . So, optimistically, I'd like to hope he's learned from his mistakes, and refrains from any similar actions in the future. No sense demonizing the man forever if he can demonstrate he's learned from it and actively works to be better.
Whether he's genuine or not, I don't really care. I've no intention of engaging with his content (nor did I prior to his plagiarism anyway) but I believe in giving people chances to be better . So, optimistically, I'd like to hope he's learned from his mistakes, and refrains from any similar actions in the future. No sense demonizing the man forever if he can demonstrate he's learned from it and actively works to be better.
I think this is his biggest fear, that people dont care and he goes back to obscurity, that people dont care enough to not even comment or consider when he does something like this.
Took him 8 month to apologize that he stole content from others to profit from them?
Yeah no thanks.
Yeah no thanks.
Yikes at the sheer level of hatred and ill will towards this guy. And over what? No one was hurt. He fucked up, probably multiple times. But he's now said sorry, at least give the guy a chance to see if he really has changed/is going to make amends.
And we wonder why the gaming community is so toxic. So many angry people. Imagine if we were talking about a issue with actual substance, I'd actual worry about the level of hatred and aggression you'd direct at people.
"Take a running fuck" is an old phrase, TBQH. It's not new. Same thing as "take a flying fuck."
As far as forgiving Muicin, that's easy to do. On the flip side, I don't want to support him or his work in any way.
As far as forgiving Muicin, that's easy to do. On the flip side, I don't want to support him or his work in any way.
Yeah the people who don't want someone stealing others content and benefit from that are the toxic ones.
Not the douchebag that stole from the start and took him 8 month to apologize and then not even to the ones he
stole from, but only as a public stunt
From the tweets in one of the posts you quoted:
*Ha got em no wonder the gaming community is toxic!*
Dude his actions directed effected people even causing some to receive threats, the fuck is this hand having comment.
I have no ill will towards the guy. He doesn't owe me an apology. I think the things he did (steal from his peers, compare himself to a cancer victim) speak to his character enough. He's young. Maybe he learns from this. Maybe he doesn't. I don't care. The people he actually harmed can decide if they want to forgive him. But what he's absolutely not owed is for people to forget what he did. In that sense, in terms of his professional life, nobody owes him a 2nd chance, and that doesn't make them wrong. The fact that he plagiarized is going to follow him forever, and that's the bed he made. He can go off and do any number of other things with his career, but any attempts to get back into games media or media in general the fact that he stole work and passed it off as his own is always going to be brought up.
We all make choices, but in the end our choices make us.
- Andrew Ryan
No, the question isn't about whether plagiarism is Ok. That's a strawman on your part. No is disputing that plagiarism (or his conduct in handling it) is unacceptable and this individual has also now accepted that. The issue is how we now deal with this individual now that he's shown his willingness to repent. Wishing him total and utter eternal failure is an INSANE overreaction. What did he rape and murder someone? Why can't we give him at least the opportunity at 2nd chance?