This is an awful post. I genuinely thought Resetera was beyond this.
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IGN: Mass Effect Legendary Edition Changes Some Gratuitious Camera Shots
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This is an awful post. I genuinely thought Resetera was beyond this.
Holy shit, yes?
A lot of the sex in GOT was super sus not simply because after a time they became unnecessary, but because many of them had some fucked up dynamics, but were played for titillation.
Fanservice is fine, but in non-pornographic media some restraint is important.
BoTh SiDeS.
the amount of people who must have took to
1 think this
2 do this
3 test this
4 approve and ship this
is beyond embarrassing and cringe.
definitely in this thread, probably on this forum, and perhaps in recorded history: the wisest words spoken.
I'll say that this is not exclusive to games. The world is changing, especially as more women are lent the directorial reigns in projects.
So, yes, stuff like this isn't "written off" as often these days, nor should it be.
The fact that women tolerated misogyny, as they too often have to enjoy media or participate in every day life, does not negate the misogynistic content in the show.
Idk, to me she feels a bit fake/doll like (and I know her backstory, but instead of looking "perfect" she felt unnatural). Same with Jessica Chobot in ME3, but obviously she looked worse in comparison.
Friend their are people who try to justify the CDPR's treatment of Women and Trans people on this site.
This thread is sadly no where near as bad as it is.
Let alone when our Black or Asian Community try to speak out about objectification/harmful imagery.
I'd be quite happy , I thought it was unnecessary and added nothing to the show at all.
Also , something being popular doesn't meant it's a good thing.
Honestly Mass Effect is mainly seen as a progressive series because it was one of the few gaming series that actually let you play as a woman and have some content made for it and even have some minorities too. It always had issues it needed to improve and was behind in some areas compared to another series by the same company , Dragon Age which had LGBT romances in the first game and said they were unlike Mass Effect 1 (still had issues needed improving as well which they are getting better at and I hope the criticism makes it even better for DA4). Honestly Mass Effect was only seen as progressive not because it actually was that progressive but that the normal in the game industry was so god damn low , it was an easy bar to clear.
And I'm saying this as someone who is a big fan of BioWare games
Neither in spite or because of. Most people including women have no issue with nudity. Mass effect is a ten year old series with a big fanbase of both men and women and Miranda is a fan favorite. She has never been seen as a lesser character because of a couple of gratuitous ass shots. There was never an outcry for this to be removed at all.
So if instead of removing the shots they moved them to the romance path, would that be a way to make everyone happy?
Also to the folks going "there's nothing wrong with it!!!" -- are we forgetting what video game culture has been for the past, what, two decades? Come on. This type of shit plays into the shittiness in some people (or attracts those susceptible to sexism) and brings out awful things over time.
I'll say that this is not exclusive to games. The world is changing, especially as more women are lent the directorial reigns in projects.
So, yes, stuff like this isn't "written off" as often these days, nor should it be.
Holy shit, I knew Whedon was scum, but daaaaaaaaaaamn.
Now if only they'd make changes to the fact that every female party member wears a skin tight bodysuit.
I'd like to play a horny space adventure that isn't aimed at pissboys and doesn't treat women as "wow, ass and cameltoe"
This is revisionist history, because I was there on the Bioware Social Network, talking with the female players, and 1) there were complaints at the time that the shots were denigrating to her character and 2) there absolutely were criticisms of it and requests to fix it.
Fans literally uploaded mods to fix it.
There's no need to do that because they ALREADY DO THIS if once you get her romance scene. But that's because it's the appropriate context and not, you know, when she's talking to you about her past abuse and her fears for her sister's life.
People are so purposefully obtuse about shit like this. "It didn't bother me bc I like dem cheeks, therefore you're a prude."
And you know this cus you've talked to every woman in the fandom??? Cus I've been asking this to be removed for a long time on this forum and I'm not the only woman that's mentioned it here either, and it's not exactly an unpopular suggestion I've seen around the fandom circle from female players. So maybe don't speak for us at all?
Do you identify as a woman?
I ask because your statement no one ever cared is factually wrong.
Hell I love Miranda, love sexy women, and I love Mass Effect.
From day 1 I've never been okay with an abuse victim being ogled thanks, and there are many women just like me on this.
In fairness, everyone is wearing skintight bodysuits. That is one of the horny-adjacent things that I see no reason to muck with.
You're doing a weird back-pedal and muddying the waters here. RecLib wasn't playing "who has it worse" with you, she rightfully pointed our you downplaying the objectifying portrayal of women in this series. You can bet your ass she wouldn't come into a thread about shit black representation in a game to tell everyone she can find bad portrayal of white people in that same game too. It's possible to be respectful about the want for better representation of women and people of color both.
Yeah, in spite of shit like this. There were always more vocal women in the DA section of the BSN for a reason.
So, if I'm reading this right, they cut out scenes that focused on girls asses for seemingly no reason, but left the sex scenes for when you get together with another character?
Which... sounds completely fair?
Which... sounds completely fair?
Good; those shots shouldn't have been there. Now, can we change the outfits of many characters like Miranda or ME3 Ashley?
I think we should replace all gratuitous ass shots of Miranda with gratuitous thorax shots of Garrus
Agreed, it really helps me grow my ignore list on here. I've gained 3 from thus thread so far!
A lot of women have complained about this since the games released. It's nothing new and you acting like it is, it's just revisionist history.
OK, so people against this are being weird creepy mfers as usual.
BoTh SiDeS.
This is the first time I've ever seen this (actually taking a good look at EDI's model)
I'm dying.
It will certainly help mature the presentation of the game. There's a time and place to acknowledge the butts.
This change is great. I look forward to reflecting on some dialogue choices after many years too.
This change is great. I look forward to reflecting on some dialogue choices after many years too.
That's not a great example. I wasn't even really tuned in to GoT and I was well aware of that horrendous and gratuitous Sansa Stark scene.
Is it bad I really don't remember this?? Like this is so dire, I really hope they fix it, geezBoTh SiDeS.
That's what some posts here are. "I know women, women are okay with this. Also I'm a horny straight guy. Just trust me though."
It is a gratuitous shot and doesn't serve the plot. Glad it was removed.
All you nerds thirsting for some virtual nudity can easily Rule34 this shit. No need to harp on about it.
All you nerds thirsting for some virtual nudity can easily Rule34 this shit. No need to harp on about it.
