There will be barely any changes.
60 dollars is way too much considering they were selling the trilogy on last gen for 5 bucks on sales.
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IGN: Mass Effect Legendary Edition Changes Some Gratuitious Camera Shots
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There will be barely any changes.
60 dollars is way too much considering they were selling the trilogy on last gen for 5 bucks on sales.
It was weird having a conversation about her troubled relationship with her father with the camera zoomed in on her swinging ass.
Eh, there's a time and place. It'd be an overall improvement IMO if they removed the random butt cams and put in nudity in the sex scenes, even if the way ratings work means it'd just be topless female characters.
I don't get why people would be upset about Bioware improving these games for this remaster. I mean I "get" it (people are fucking trash), but I can't at all empathize with it.
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No unfortunately. That would require designing a whole new model for her.
These changes are just adjusting the camera.
I think it's important to note that many of these shots were in situations where there was no sexual element or undercurrent to the interactions and conversation. They were serious and or straight forward scenes.
Having a more suggestive or outright blatant butt shots in like a romance scene is cool and makes sense, there's relevant context, but when you're just talking about like rescuing a kidnapped and imprisoned sister or Collectors kidnapping civilians to turn them to space goo or whatever having a shot looking at someone's ass is kind of wildly out of order.
Just because the games overall heavily feature romantic elements and ability to flirt with companions doesn't mean it's justifiable to just drop in weirdly suggestive and objectifying stuff wherever.
Having a more suggestive or outright blatant butt shots in like a romance scene is cool and makes sense, there's relevant context, but when you're just talking about like rescuing a kidnapped and imprisoned sister or Collectors kidnapping civilians to turn them to space goo or whatever having a shot looking at someone's ass is kind of wildly out of order.
Just because the games overall heavily feature romantic elements and ability to flirt with companions doesn't mean it's justifiable to just drop in weirdly suggestive and objectifying stuff wherever.
Bingo.
User banned (3 weeks): Hostility over concerns of sexism
What? How? Are game characters not allowed to be sexy? Is there not an ongoing *27 page* thread about the RE8 lady? Miss me with that shit.
I'm sure the (cringy) sex scenes are still in, but the male gaze objectifying of Miranda was pretty uncomfortable.
I certainly enjoyed it as a hormonal teenager but alas some things are just better left in the past
Having close up shots of asses isn't just "being sexy", it's pure objectifying.
An ongoing 27 page thread that multiple women have said made them very uncomfortable and was rife with sexist bullshit, yes.
To be clear, nothing wrong with the actual character in RE8.
It'd probably be weird if while REVIII Big Vampire Lady started talking about, like, how sad she is being a horrible monster and how she was forced to become one to survive and then the camera is focusing on her boobs.
Like notice how nobody here is saying "excellent, now to remove the sex scenes!" because those are there to be definitely sexy. It's the characters rolling in the hay, of course you're gonna see their butts at that point.
unfortunately that's just chopping off the tip of the iceberg of objectifying bullshit in Mass Effect. but still better than nothing.
I can see where he's coming from. Mass Effect and Dragon Age both always felt like they had the horny on main vibe of a jrpg
When you think about it...is it though?
They even tried to make Liara's mom look sexy in 1 at times, and then there's Jack, the strip joints, sex scenes, the random woman(who's a fan of you) that they appointed to read your emails in 2 and compliment you constantly, and there was also that time they turned Edi into a sexy naked robot and then there was the Ashley makeover in 3...
It's a weird camera shot when she's talking about how she saved her sister from her abusive and manipulative father; there's a time and place for this and the cinematography is just weird here (like in most BioWare games where the camera is either off centered or focuses in weird places like someone's torso or back for some reason).
people will still get the butt shots and whatnot when it actually serves a purpose in the scene
We called them out at the time, and I even personally requested Bioware address them in a giant post here a few years back.
This is a good chance, and it's one many of us asked for.
Y'all, I'm fine with them taking out the gratuitous stuff, but, I'm specifically taking about the franchise having a sexy vibe *as a whole*, which is what that person called "incredibly weird."
Nothing wrong with sexy. But when the depiction of sexualised stuff across the outfits, character design, strip clubs, romance scenes etc is so completely one-sided, and has the camera eyeing up just the female characters and npcs constantly, it's objectification rather than 'sexy', even if the latter is what the presumed target audience is taking from it.
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I get what people are saying about Mass Effect and its sexiness, sure the romance options and such. Its similar with Dragon Age I suppose but you retain that vibe and not have ridiculous camera shots like that arse one. it was not even in the context of scene if I remember.
I would think they can fix EDI's issue with an update to the texture. I'll be really surprised if that doesn't happen.
I don't mind the change, it won't change my enjoyment for the game, but wasn't it an artistic decision regarding how she was engineered to be a perfect social mercenary, being given a high intellect, perfect social and seductive skills, and that her "whole" arc was about to be detached from what she was initially made for?
I'm sure you can tell the same story without those camera angles, so again, it doesn't change my enjoyment for the game, but I always thought it was an intended decision, and that the more you move forward with the character, the less those angles are used to help the narration.
I'm sure you can tell the same story without those camera angles, so again, it doesn't change my enjoyment for the game, but I always thought it was an intended decision, and that the more you move forward with the character, the less those angles are used to help the narration.
If Edi's texture was literally just changed to one of those purple/black checkerboard error texture not loaded images, even that would be an improvement.
To close to the cats hashtag.
To close to the cats hashtag.
It would be incredibly expensive to go in and make some deep changes. Surface level improvements and QoL fixes, plus a more cohesive package with everything included is what you should expect.
I mean, I could find some Garrus butt shots, some Jacob, Male Shep, and Vega shirtless shots and butt shots... I think the games objectified everyone lol.
Sure, go ahead but I get a sneaky feeling a lot of the questionable dialogue options and lines will stay.
I am very much pro having games with sexual elements but that ass shot was just anime levels of bad.
I am very much pro having games with sexual elements but that ass shot was just anime levels of bad.
