IGN - 17 minutes of Deadly Premonition 2 gameplay

Deleted member 10737 · Jul 6, 2020

FakePlasticTree said:
DP1 SPOILERS

I wonder if there will be references to Kaysen in this game since York's carreer is entirely based on pursuing him across America, while apprehending other serial killers very Silence of the Lambs esque.

kaysen is an agent of the red tree, but not necessarily the only one. there could be other agents responsible for red tree-related incidents. at the end of the first game kaysen is defeated but since there are other incidents happening in 2019, there could be another agent at work. as for 2005, kaysen could possibly be related to the red trees in Le Carré but not be directly involved in the serial murders going on there.

this map from the prologue of the first game marks the appearances of kaysen, but there's not a kaysen doll on Louisiana. there is however, a pin which implies a red tree-related incident.

Richter1887 said:
Do you feel that Zack? Four more days until we return.

shaving is back, confirmed

Deleted member 16876 · Jul 6, 2020

mazi said:
kaysen is an agent of the red tree, but not necessarily the only one. there could be other agents responsible for red tree-related incidents. at the end of the first game kaysen is defeated but since there are other incidents happening in 2019, there could be another agent at work. as for 2005, kaysen could possibly be related to the red trees in Le Carré but not be directly involved in the serial murders going on there.

this map from the prologue of the first game marks the appearances of kaysen, but there's not a kaysen doll on Louisiana. there is however, a pin which implies a red tree-related incident.

shaving is back, confirmed

Excellent. Thanks for confirming!

Deleted member 10737 · Jul 6, 2020

for some reason people keep asking swery for review codes :/

KrillinLikeAVillan · Jul 6, 2020

Oregano said:
It looks like garbage so fans of the first game should be happy.

No lies detected.

My Cow Phelps said:
I honestly think a lot of people who say that DP is some kind of "so bad its good" game like that movie The Room haven't actually played it. The game is great because it has a great story, lovely characters, funny dialogue, very good OST and an open-world that while "empty" is kind of reminiscent of Shenmue, due to the memorable NPCs with specific schedules. Its great despite the jank. I didn't want DP2 to run like crap, i don't think its part of the "appeal" or whatever. That said, i still think the game will be amazing and i will be there day one.

I like deadly premonition but it is 100% a "so bad it's good" thing for me, i like it for the exact same reasons i like the room.
I think it is a bad game in almost every conceivable way.

Deleted member 15395 · Jul 6, 2020

I know its part of the charm and all but I wish Nintendo could've sent some engineers to help optimize the game at least a bit...

Gibson · Jul 6, 2020

Can't unsee, 'I am loathe to part with it' in the subtitles. It's 'loath to'. They need an editor :v

Dusk Golem · Jul 6, 2020

One of the biggest confirms from people with early copies for me is unlike DP1 they let you adjust the volume of the sound mixing (IE the volume of the music, sound effects, voices, etc.)

Slim Action · Jul 6, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
One of the biggest confirms from people with early copies for me is unlike DP1 they let you adjust the volume of the sound mixing (IE the volume of the music, sound effects, voices, etc.)

This is excellent. It won't quite be the same without music drowning out half the dialogue, but I think I'd prefer to be able to hear the voice actors.

Skittzo · Jul 6, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
One of the biggest confirms from people with early copies for me is unlike DP1 they let you adjust the volume of the sound mixing (IE the volume of the music, sound effects, voices, etc.)

That's great to hear. The skateboard grinding sound is unbearable in the video.

cowbanana · Jul 6, 2020

Ah, there it is, the fabled miniscule single "a" game. The almost extinct ancestor to the modern quadruple A behemoth.

Deleted member 10737 · Jul 6, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
One of the biggest confirms from people with early copies for me is unlike DP1 they let you adjust the volume of the sound mixing (IE the volume of the music, sound effects, voices, etc.)

not sure about the original/director's cut versions, but you can already do that in origins.

Dusk Golem · Jul 6, 2020

mazi said:
not sure about the original/director's cut versions, but you can already do that in origins.

I think that was added later as I have a very distinct memory of looking for such an option when I played the original game on 360 back in the day and not being able to find it, or it was something weird and I think the volume was tied to each other in weird ways, I just remember accepting that was how it was going to be.

Still nice to have a confirm here though.

Landy828 · Jul 6, 2020

That first character interaction in the restaurant/bowling alley 👀. Bit too much stereotype there.

Game looks rough.

Writing is awful too.

I did play through the original though and liked it.

gazoinks · Jul 6, 2020

FakePlasticTree said:
DP1 SPOILERS

I wonder if there will be references to Kaysen in this game since York's carreer is entirely based on pursuing him across America, while apprehending other serial killers very Silence of the Lambs esque.

DP1 spoilers
If the game actually is a stealth follow-up to D4 that also raises some weird questions since that had a Forrest Kaysen that was an entirely different character. I wonder if that'll be folded into the plot or waved away.

mazi said:
shaving is back, confirmed

Thank god

Deleted member 10737 · Jul 6, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
I think that was added later as I have a very distinct memory of looking for such an option when I played the original game on 360 back in the day and not being able to find it, or it was something weird and I think the volume was tied to each other in weird ways, I just remember accepting that was how it was going to be.

Still nice to have a confirm here though.

there could still be something wrong with it, as i never bothered to change those settings. there's some parts where the mix is probably intentionally bad (like the screaming over the loud music in the breakfast scene), but otherwise the mix is terrible but i just went with it, lol.

CannonFodder52 · Jul 6, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
I think that was added later as I have a very distinct memory of looking for such an option when I played the original game on 360 back in the day and not being able to find it, or it was something weird and I think the volume was tied to each other in weird ways, I just remember accepting that was how it was going to be.

Still nice to have a confirm here though.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you couldn't do this on 360 as it was a running joke among my friends that York would get drowned out by music or other audio.

Petruccis Biceps · Jul 6, 2020

Wow I thought they'd actually improve the performance over the original but jesus christ still looks like ASS.

I still wanna play though :P

FormatCompatible · Jul 6, 2020

gazoinks said:
If the game actually is a stealth follow-up to D4 that also raises some weird questions since that had a Forrest Kaysen that was an entirely different character. I wonder if that'll be folded into the plot or waved away.

Personally I want to see Swery go nuts with it and also include references to Spy Fiction and it's version of Forrest Kaysen, create a true interconnected universe out of this.

Deleted member 10737 · Jul 6, 2020

FormatCompatible said:
Personally I want to see Swery go nuts with it and also include references to Spy Fiction and it's version of Forrest Kaysen, create a true interconnected universe out of this.

i really want to see a cameo from jj macfield, and maybe naomi ~~watts~~ from the good life.

gazoinks · Jul 6, 2020

FormatCompatible said:
Personally I want to see Swery go nuts with it and also include references to Spy Fiction and it's version of Forrest Kaysen, create a true interconnected universe out of this.

DP spoilers
Given that DP FK is an extradimensional alien, I could definitely see them going with some explanation of each FK being a physical form of a larger being. Maybe DP FK is the bad side and D4 FK the good side of the same creature or something. Watching a LP recently to refresh myself, it really struck me how little of the supernatural stuff in the first game is explored at all.

mazi said:
i really want to see a cameo from jj macfield, and maybe naomi ~~watts~~ from the good life.

Given how The Missing ends, a JJ Macfield cameo of some kind would be really sweet.

Chemi_ro · Jul 6, 2020

Dusk Golem said:
One of the biggest confirms from people with early copies for me is unlike DP1 they let you adjust the volume of the sound mixing (IE the volume of the music, sound effects, voices, etc.)

You could adjust the volume of things in all releases though on some cutscenes you couldn't actually adjust the music sound and I only know because I tried to turn it off trying to record end game dialogue without music for various videos over the years lol.

Finale Fireworker · Jul 6, 2020

I played Deadly Premonition during quarantine and really didn't care for it much, but I liked it just enough to have some interest in a sequel. I'll probably read a lot of reviews first. I haven't decided yet.

Deleted member 10737 · Jul 6, 2020

Chemi_ro said:
You could adjust the volume of things in all releases though on some cutscenes you couldn't actually adjust the music sound and I only know because I tried to turn it off trying to record end game dialogue without music for various videos over the years lol.

could it be that those cutscenes were pre-recorded videos? i know there's a couple of those in the game (it's obvious which ones from the video compression and the fact that york isn't in them cuz in the in-engine cutscenes his clothes are determined by the player). for those the audio has to be pre-recorded too and the levels can't be adjusted.

groovyalex391 · Jul 6, 2020

Innolis said:
I know its part of the charm and all but I wish Nintendo could've sent some engineers to help optimize the game at least a bit...

Some jankieness is one thing but based on Swery's twitter replies, he made the framerate crap on purpose? The performance issues were never part of the charm of the original and even then, never ran that badly.

IamAwake · Jul 6, 2020

groovyalex391 said:
Some jankieness is one thing but based on Swery's twitter replies, he made the framerate crap on purpose? The performance issues were never part of the charm of the original and even then, never ran that badly.

Dang. Got a link for that tweet? The game just got patched on my preloaded copy so here's hoping that improves the performance.

Aostia82 · Jul 6, 2020

mazi said:
for some reason people keep asking swery for review codes :/

That is weird
I mean, me too I asked
But I asked to the publisher, once, and that's it

groovyalex391 · Jul 6, 2020

IamAwake said:
Dang. Got a link for that tweet? The game just got patched on my preloaded copy so here's hoping that improves the performance.

https://twitter.com/Swery65/status/1279091314156425216?s=20

https://twitter.com/Swery65/status/1279218388053553154?s=20

shadowman16 · Jul 6, 2020

groovyalex391 said:
https://twitter.com/Swery65/status/1279091314156425216?s=20

https://twitter.com/Swery65/status/1279218388053553154?s=20

I feel I'm really decensortised to performance at this point in some games, as for some reason that doesn't really bother me... I do wish it'd run better though, the fact that the first DP still has performance issues in ports to this day is really annoying :(

Anbec · Jul 6, 2020

Is this going to be only digital?

Deleted member 10737 · Jul 6, 2020

Anbec said:
Is this going to be only digital?

only in japan. elsewhere it's also getting a physical release on the same day.

Anbec · Jul 6, 2020

mazi said:
only in japan. elsewhere it's also getting a physical release on the same day.

The moment I asked it appeared as magic on amazon, cheaper too! Can't wait for the madness now!

Deleted member 10737 · Jul 6, 2020

Anbec said:
The moment I asked it appeared as magic on amazon

...does amazon have a keylogger installed on your pc?

Anbec · Jul 6, 2020

mazi said:
...does amazon have a keylogger installed on your pc?

I wouldn't know but maybe because I bought the first one when it released and have PM The origami king in preorder.

Emergency & I · Jul 6, 2020

Do we have a review embargo timeline?

Deleted member 3040 · Jul 6, 2020

So if I want to play the first game, is the PC or Switch version the way to go? No clue if they fixed the shoddy PC release, or if those issues extend to the Switch version.

Deleted member 10737 · Jul 6, 2020

Emergency & I said:
Do we have a review embargo timeline?

july 8th, 6 am pt

Marow said:
So if I want to play the first game, is the PC or Switch version the way to go? No clue if they fixed the shoddy PC release, or if those issues extend to the Switch version.

switch is the better choice (it still has issues tho)

Emergency & I · Jul 6, 2020

mazi said:
july 8th, 6 am pt

Awesome. Setting my alarm to get up early that day.

shadowman16 · Jul 6, 2020

Marow said:
So if I want to play the first game, is the PC or Switch version the way to go? No clue if they fixed the shoddy PC release, or if those issues extend to the Switch version.

Cant comment on if the PC ever got fixed, Switch wise I've had a couple of crashes in my 10+ hours so far, and performance on a handheld isn't great when driving in the more populated town areas but its perfectly playable, insides/mission areas tend to run much better as well.

julia crawford · Jul 6, 2020

groovyalex391 said:
https://twitter.com/Swery65/status/1279091314156425216?s=20

https://twitter.com/Swery65/status/1279218388053553154?s=20

That doesn't mean they did it on purpose... only that they had other priorities to spend their time on.

Chance Hale · Jul 6, 2020

Marow said:
So if I want to play the first game, is the PC or Switch version the way to go? No clue if they fixed the shoddy PC release, or if those issues extend to the Switch version.

Pc version runs at 60 FPS without issues which is a huge boon but requires a lot of tweaks for resolution/stability that you can find here and even then it will crash every 3-4 hours and you literally have to restart your computer to make it stable again. Idk playable if you save a lot and don't mind taking 20 minutes to set up the tweaks but it is real broken all around. Switch version runs like hot trash so there's no great version of the game.

Deleted member 3040 · Jul 6, 2020

Chance Hale said:
Pc version runs at 60 FPS without issues which is a huge boon but requires a lot of tweaks for resolution/stability that you can find here and even then it will crash every 3-4 hours and you literally have to restart your computer to make it stable again. Idk playable if you save a lot and don't mind taking 20 minutes to set up the tweaks. Switch version runs like hot trash

I swear, this game is cursed! And 2 seems messy too (on Switch at least).

Thanks to everyone answering. Not sure what to do.

Chemi_ro · Jul 6, 2020

Marow said:
So if I want to play the first game, is the PC or Switch version the way to go? No clue if they fixed the shoddy PC release, or if those issues extend to the Switch version.

I recommend playing the original 360 Release on Xbox One as it is the most stable of the bunch. It will never crash and on Xbox One there's also steady framerate... but you have to deal with some wonky controls. Unfortunately with the PC port people's mileage will vary...some can't get it to run while others, myself included, can play it hours at a time with limited issues but the game will crash on you. The Switch version has some lag and it will crash on you after several hours of gameplay so you need to save often.

mazi said:
could it be that those cutscenes were pre-recorded videos? i know there's a couple of those in the game (it's obvious which ones from the video compression and the fact that york isn't in them cuz in the in-engine cutscenes his clothes are determined by the player). for those the audio has to be pre-recorded too and the levels can't be adjusted.

Yeah I think this is the case.

THANKS · Jul 6, 2020

The joy of Deadly Premonition is to go in blind not knowing what you're getting. For that reason I'll be avoiding all previews.

Deleted member 10737 · Jul 7, 2020

Zor · Jul 7, 2020

mazi said:

"Is this stream choppy for anybody else?"

"Nope, that's just the framerate!"

Badum tish etc.

Cronen · Jul 7, 2020

Don't suppose we know when reviews will hit?

Eblo · Jul 7, 2020

Cronen said:
Don't suppose we know when reviews will hit?

mazi said:
july 8th, 6 am pt

Cronen · Jul 7, 2020

Completely missed that, thanks.

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