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  • Yeah.

    Votes: 62 18.9%
  • No.

    Votes: 266 81.1%

  • Total voters
    328

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Refuses to Wash his Ass
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Oct 26, 2017
22,080
"I am a cold, calculating person who has put together this group of sinister individuals hellbent on conquering all and destroying the Justice League. Hey folks, can i invite this purely chaotic clown person to our group? He surely will aid us in our PLANS."
 

LewieP

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Oct 26, 2017
18,093
Far more dangerous to not invite him. He'd be crashing the party if he doesn't get an invite.
 

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Temp_User

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Oct 30, 2017
4,691
Arguably the best Mark Hamill's Joker laugh.

Also i wouldn't invite the Joker into the group if i were Lex. If he really needs to be in the group, i'd let him run interference and distraction instead of being in with the main plan.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,576
Far more dangerous to not invite him. He'd be crashing the party if he doesn't get an invite.

That reminds me of this page from Infinite Crisis. The mastermind of the plot opts not to let The Joker in on his plans, fearing he'd be too much of a wild card. When the plans go belly up, Joker catches up to him, and....

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TheGhost

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
28,137
Long Island
I mean Batman has plot armor up the ass because he is just a human so it wouldn't matter if they hired multiple joker's.


I like to believe in a modern day legion of Doom dictated on film, with a competent lex luthor not played by eisenberg, the joker would be excluded. If anything you kill him first so that way he doesn't fuck up your plans in the future.
 

Jodez99

Member
Jan 1, 2018
3,595
Refusing Joker will only end up with him involving himself anyway. Rather have him included in some capacity than let him come out of nowhere later
 

McNum

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 26, 2017
5,184
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A Joker who's in on your plans, but is being a pain is still a better option than a Joker who's mad at you for keeping him out of all the fun. The former can be managed, the latter is a problem.

So plan for the Joker doing something weird, and ask him to join. Better to have him where you can see him, after all.
 

Fat4all

Woke up, got a money tag, swears a lot
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Oct 25, 2017
92,551
here
Joker is a massive wild card

he could do or undo any of your schemes

he is chaos
 

More_Badass

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,622
A Joker who's in on your plans, but is being a pain is still a better option than a Joker who's mad at you for keeping him out of all the fun. The former can be managed, the latter is a problem.

So plan for the Joker doing something weird, and ask him to join. Better to have him where you can see him, after all.
Pretty much. He's going to mess up your scheme either way
 

Mr. Poolman

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
6,975
No. Because he is overrated and doesn't add much to a team with Brainiac, Cheetah, Bizarro and so. He is outclassed.
Of course he is popular and that gives him the same "stupity aura" that Batman has when everyone around him turns idiot to make him look good or "wildcard".
 

FaceHugger

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
13,949
USA
No you kill him. He's maniacal even by maniacs' standards. He won't work for the greater good of any group. Just have Gorilla Grodd mind control him into leaping off a cliff or something.
 

caliph95

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Oct 25, 2017
35,153
It's better to have him on your team to keep him busy and under watch than leaving him alone to potentially screw up your plan
 

Matarick

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Nov 11, 2017
92
Only if Felix Faust can put a spell on him to keep him in line. With an intellect like Lex Luthor, I wouldn't mind have some of Joker's blood or DNA samples to study him. Maybe I can talk shop about chemistry.
Maybe have Joker go to Apokolips to wreck some things and get some sweet tech.
 

No Depth

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Oct 27, 2017
18,263

Literally the first thing I thought of before clicking thread as well.

Did the Joker just killed Two-Face?

No.

Alexander Luther. Basically an alternate universe version of Lex without going into too much detail. He shut out the Joker from being part of his grand evil scheme while including most other rogues. Basically he worried Joker was a wildcard and couldn't be trusted. Image is from last page of the story and is a sort of surprise ending
 
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Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
93,022
Time and time again it is shown villains will avoid joker. And he doesn't mind unless you offend him, like when the time the literally invited every supervillain but joker for Libra's party.
 

TheMadTitan

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Oct 27, 2017
27,198
Yes. And then I kill him, because I'm not dumb enough to allow Joker to roam free.

Even in the most recent Justice League, Lex invited Joker and Joker only stuck around until he got bored.
 

caliph95

Member
Oct 25, 2017
35,153
Yes. And then I kill him, because I'm not dumb enough to allow Joker to roam free.

Even in the most recent Justice League, Lex invited Joker and Joker only stuck around until he got bored.
Well no because that makes Lex less stupid

Joker quit because he had Batman who laughs who is too crazy even for him and Joker for once gives good advice and straight up told him to not trust the dude

Lex didn't just invite Joker he invited Super joker

(TBF he put him in super prison but Snyder made batman who laughs borderline villain sue and characters are aware of it)
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Nov 14, 2017
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That reminds me of this page from Infinite Crisis. The mastermind of the plot opts not to let The Joker in on his plans, fearing he'd be too much of a wild card. When the plans go belly up, Joker catches up to him, and....

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The smart thing to do would have been to kill the Joker when you still had control of pieces as powerful as Prime, Black Adam, Sinestro, and Earth 2 Superman.
 

nded

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Nov 14, 2017
10,558
I think you could do whatever and the odds of the Joker taking offense or letting it slide would be even either way. If you're gunning for Bats then Joker would obviously feel some kind of way about that.
 

Aske

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,572
Canadia
Ultrahumanite plus Lex for the brains, Grundy for muscle, The Shade and Cheetah for finesse...Lex already invited Star Sapphire, who is by far the most powerful, and can also be highly unpredictable. If he's watching her, and keeping an eye on Ultrahumanite and Cheetah (Shade being easily controlled with money, and Grundy being predictable), Joker would be both unnecessary and a massive liability. The group already has enough headache potential.

Clancy Brown Luthor anticipates Mark Hamill Joker doing exactly what he did: either ignoring the whole thing, or getting jealous and needing to show up the LoD for underestimating him.

Jesse Eisenberg Luthor would invite any variation of the Joker first, and they'd build the LoD together from the ground up.
 

Bor Gullet

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
12,399
I'm just trying to imagine how insufferable it would be to watch Eisenberg's Luthor and Leto's Joker meeting.
 

Zaied

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Oct 27, 2017
4,551
In that particular episode, Joker was the only reason the Legion of Doom even knew Batman was coming. He also ended up being correct that it made more sense to kill Batman immediately than wait and allow him to come up with some kind of plan. Clearly, Joker was more sane than Luthor that day.
 

SamAlbro

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Oct 25, 2017
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If I was Lex Luthor, I'd probably be arrogant enough to think I could keep him on a leash, and an agent of chaos is very useful when you need to keep the heroes distracted from your important plans.
 

crimsonECHIDNA

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Oct 25, 2017
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As Infinite Crisis showed, I think Luthor knows that Joker is an unpredictable wildcard if he doesn't at least keep a check on him, so he would affiliate with him to a degree.
 

The Unsent

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Oct 25, 2017
19,419
I would create like a Batman celebratory
Gala to bait the joker out, and as soon as he crashes the party, all the high society guests are actually robots and they blow up killing the joker.
 

Vordan

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Aug 12, 2018
2,489
You invite him because he'll be pissed if you don't, and because he'll be able to keep Batman occupied. Obviously the most practical choice would be to kill him but that isn't happening.
I get the feeling people seem to not like the Joker much here. Why?
When he's written poorly he's insufferable as a villain. Plus the whole "AGENT OF CHAOS" can just get annoying after a while especially since Joker isn't unpredictable at all. You know he's going to stab everyone in the back, you know he's going to go for the biggest body counts, it's what he does.
 

PhoenixAKG

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Aug 14, 2019
7,803
You invite him because he'll be pissed if you don't, and because he'll be able to keep Batman occupied. Obviously the most practical choice would be to kill him but that isn't happening.

When he's written poorly he's insufferable as a villain. Plus the whole "AGENT OF CHAOS" can just get annoying after a while especially since Joker isn't unpredictable at all. You know he's going to stab everyone in the back, you know he's going to go for the biggest body counts, it's what he does.
When do you think the Joker is written poorly and when he is written good?