If you subscribed to PS+ / Xbox Live Gold at the start of this generation, you'll have paid $420 by the time the new consoles arrive

[Augemitbutter]

PS+ was great when online was free for the games. Later you even got PS3,PS4, Vita packs for insane value. Nowadays i only get it when i intent to play online regularly at a discount.

i still think online shouldn't be locked. They should find other ways to make you pay for extra games. It's a shame people didn't revolt in the early xbox days. The only time there was a chance to stop it. Maybe we get another in future but chances are slim.

 

[Eggiem]

Strange. People told me console gaming is cheaper than buying a PC.

 

[Deleted member 35071]

i've rarely paid full price. I always try to buy around black friday to get half price. or get dirt cheap on ebay or cdkeys when necessary.

I dont really care for the games i've gotten through Playstation. But my GWG tab has nearly 300 games. thats a lot of games i can carry over to the next xbox. So the juice is worth the squeeze to me.

i dont even know why i still pay for PS plus tbh. I barely play any online games on playstation

 

[defaltoption]

Ive never payed full price but the main reason I subscribe is the games we keep and the discounts don't care about anything else. I subscri to Gold/Ultimate, plus, and Nintendos thing but I won't keep Nintendo

 

[HighspeedRefleX]

PS+ is routinely available for less than $40/year. Price for the generation is likely less than $300. Sure it would be nice if it were free but does anyone remember free PSN? It was garbage. At least we get a couple games included every month and a reliable secure service now.

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As someone who used PSN almost exclusively to play online I can confirm the service was ok for me. The online modes in the exclusives were functional and fun for the most part. Would like to see them seperating PS+ from online MP again.

 

[unicornKnight]

Sorry OP no answer for me. You fucked up with those options. And its not 420, not even close, there are yearly subs at around 45$.

 

[Zok310]

If you get them on discount you likely paid half of that. Either way if i added up all the free games i have over the years the service saved me over $500.

 

[Hamster Plugin]

This is the reason I'm going with PC only next gen. My Plus ends in January 28, and that turns my PS4 into a paperweight so it's bye bye Playstation.

 

[The Artisan]

I don't think I ever paid the whole $60 for psplus. I've always waited for black Friday or just looked for a deal

 

[Tagyhag]

I've had it for 3 years but after it ends this April I'm not renewing it.

I realized that I don't play enough online to justify it and as primarily a PC gamer the free games are mostly useless.

With $420 I could get as many or even more games and it would be all games that I actually want to play.

 

[reKon]

This is something that hit me today after remembering my PS+ subscription ends next april, and it's how much of a scam paid online is. If you subscribed to either of these services at the beggining of the generation and subscribe again when the new consoles hit, you'll have paid over $400 for it across the entire generation in a service that, let's be real, only exists because console manufacturers could get away with it.

Now, it's true that they sweeten the deal with monthly games and extra discounts in sales, but it's still crazy to me that paid online just became accepted like that. I'm not above taking responsibility either, since I paid for two years of PS+ already and I'll most likely stay subscribed to play Gran Turismo Sport and Crash Team Racing (at least PS+ is now $40 on my region :p), but it still sucks that this is now the norm even on Nintendo consoles, especially when at least in my experience online gaming on PC is much better in terms of the quality of the service and it costs nothing.

Wonder if this could change next gen with Game Pass becoming MS' focus, because if they removed the Live Gold requirement on Xbox the PS5 would definitely be forced to do it as well.

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I've averaged $35 per 1 year purchase of PSN and I haven't immediately activated a membership immediately upon expiration each time so...

 

[Jonscrambler]

lol at the replies "I never pay full price", so what? change $420 to $300 , what a deal

 

[Deleted member 18161]

Think I've paid around £200 for the whole gen. I more than got that value back in the PS+ games I got access too aswell as the extra discounts on the store 😊

 

[Vespa]

Thanks. I hate it

 

[reKon]

lol at the replies "I never pay full price", so what? change $420 to $300 , what a deal

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$210*

I generally agree with the principle that this shouldn't have been a thing (see PC gaming), but then again, cloud saving is very valuable to me, I've received a ton of free games from this that exceed the $35 value, and $35 doesn't even exceed to .1% of my take home income (net of taxes, health insurance, retirement account, etc)

 

[DrSopa]

i always renew psn plus when is on discount so... $420?? lol

 

[Van Bur3n]

You know the poll allows for multiple choices right? Most people are not solely getting these services for the monthly games.

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Would you like to buy a pen.

I paid PS+ for the free games solely, but hardly had time to finish my regularly paid games, much less play the free ones. Most of which were absolute shite anyway. Even with being incredibly fortunate in terms of disposable income, I did the math last year and noped the fuck out of the service. Not going back ever again either.

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Is that so.

 

[shadowhaxor]

Nah, my Xbox Live is free thanks to Bing search, as is Game Pass. While PSN costs me about $30 thanks to deals.

 

[TechnicPuppet]

I never paid anywhere near that.

 

[Secretofmateria]

*Gasp* im going to start a riot outside of microsofts headquarters in redmond, whose with me, gamers rise up!

 

[Dr. Mario]

Is that so.

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*ever again or when PS5 releases and my hype is taking over.

 

[Frost1800]

Need an option for backing up saves.

 

[Kyuuji]

Pretty sure it'll continue to not bother me next generation if the value prop is similar.

 

[hikarutilmitt]

Was already a subscriber to PS+ during the PS3 days and was going to keep it in perpetuity, but I can't remember the last time I paid full price for it, even before the price change.

 

[Cokie Bear]

Worth it for Rocket League alone

 

[leng jai]

Microsoft will justify it next gen by rolling it into Xcloud and Gamepass.

PS Plus has been awful for a while now, haven't subbed since like 2017. Sony don't even make any exclusive multiplayer games and the download speeds are still atrocious. There's literally zero reason to have it for someone who plays on PC too.

 

[SmittyWerbenManJensen]

Microsoft Rewards program, aka I have game pass ultimate until 2022 and have never paid a cent for it.

Thank you, MS.

 

[Judge]

Who pays full price for either of those? Lol

 

[ThatsMyTrunks]

If I were paying full price, sure. I jump on deals from Wario64 to extend my subscriptions, and with XBox's $1 deal to upgrade gamepass/gold I ended up getting set up til nearly 2023.

But if I'd paid $420 for all the monthly games, I'd still feel like it was worth it.

 

[The Artisan]

lol at the replies "I never pay full price", so what? change $420 to $300 , what a deal

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So that's a $120 difference

 

[Merv]

Worth it for Rocket League alone

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When I had PS+ Rocket League was all I really used it for. After it expired I bought Rocket League for $20 on PC. I play it way to much.

 

[AstronaughtE]

Just sat down, went through my spreadsheets, did the math, and found that I've spent $230.72 since 2014 on Xbox Gold. This averages out to let's say $33.
The MSRP would be $334.93. Average of $47.85. This doesn't include 2020 (which has seen the purchase of subscription)

I can also see that I have 91 games with gold on xbox one. Which means I average out paying $2.54 per game; $3.68 MSRP. This doesn't include backwards compatible 360 games. I could figure that out too but that's more work than I'm willing to do today.

 

[Cokie Bear]

Even if I'd paid full price at £50 for all 7 years, I'd have paid £350. I have over 300 games purchased on PSN, not including the PS+ titles that were offered. Considering nearly all those were purchased on sale, and there's usually a higher discount for PS+ subscribes, I think I've quite easily saved more than I've spent.

 

[monmagman]

Yea.....but I got Knack on PS+.....so who gets the last laugh!!!

 

[Fabtacular]

Puts those "early adopters spend $1,340 over the life of the generation statistics in context."

A huge chunk of that figure is PS+/XBL.

 

[Soupman Prime]

Got it for online play as well as the deals and *free* games. I've bought so many games for cheap with PS+ and that I consider it great. I've had so many amazing moments in Destiny and GTA Online too, sucks it ain't free like it was before but ultimately worth it for me.

 

[Merv]

Just sat down, went through my spreadsheets, did the math, and found that I've spent $230.72 since 2014 on Xbox Gold. This averages out to let's say $33.
The MSRP would be $334.93. Average of $47.85. This doesn't include 2020 (which has seen the purchase of subscription)

I can also see that I have 91 games with gold on xbox one. Which means I average out paying $2.54 per game; $3.68 MSRP. This doesn't include backwards compatible 360 games. I could figure that out too but that's more work than I'm willing to do today.

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[alstrike]

I bought all my PS+ for way less than the MSRP (maybe 250€ in total)

 

[5taquitos]

Once I realized that the free games were just going into an ever-expanding backlog, and that I was having more fun with MP games on PC, Plus seemed almost hilariously undesirable.

 

[ImaLawy3r]

This one of the things that I weight in Stadia's advantage. Of course it doesn't matter to me very deeply because I'll be paying for Gamepass Ultimate and PS+ next gen anyway. But Stadia's overall cost is cheaper.

 

[xxracerxx]

Would you like to buy a pen.

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Does the pen lend me games like Yakuza 0 occasionally?

This one of the things that I weight in Stadia's advantage. Of course it doesn't matter to me very deeply because I'll be paying for Gamepass Ultimate and PS+ next gen anyway. But Stadia's overall cost is cheaper.

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Wait...which Stadia subscription plan is cheaper than PS+ or XBL?

 

[BAD]

Much of their base does not pay retail for these services. So the average spend is not $420.

 

[Ploid 6.0]

$400 saved.

 

[Eeyore]

Microsoft will justify it next gen by rolling it into Xcloud and Gamepass.

PS Plus has been awful for a while now, haven't subbed since like 2017. Sony don't even make any exclusive multiplayer games and the download speeds are still atrocious. There's literally zero reason to have it for someone who plays on PC too.

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Sony already rolls it into PS Now so not sure why that's any different besides you don't like the games offered there. It's still not some amazingly new idea.

 

[Kemono]

I had Plus since the PS3. I never payed full price for it and the discounts alone saved me more money than i payed.

I play maybe a week online every year.

 

[leng jai]

Sony already rolls it into PS Now so not sure why that's any different besides you don't like the games offered there. It's still not some amazingly new idea.

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PS Now isn't even available in my region. The $1 GP Ultimate de is the only reason I have Gold too.

 

[giancarlo123x]

420? Nice

 

[Crayon]

Yeah its ridiculous. My 200usd ps4 is about to reach 440 after these fees. I guess people generally don't look at it that way...

 

[Lant_War]

Once I realized that the free games were just going into an ever-expanding backlog, and that I was having more fun with MP games on PC, Plus seemed almost hilariously undesirable.

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That's part of the reason I'm probably going to stop paying as much as it sucks losing Gran Turismo. I just never really play these games, in over 3 years I've only finished Yakuza Kiwami

 

[ImaLawy3r]

Does the pen lend me games like Yakuza 0 occasionally?


Wait...which Stadia subscription plan is cheaper than PS+ or XBL?

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Overall costs of purchasing the console upfront, upgrading it midcycle to play games again, and subscription costs versus $10 a month amounting to $120 a year if you choose to keep your sub all year.

I bought my Xbox and PlayStation at launch. I also upgraded to the X1X when it launched. Also had to buy an SSD. In the end, you end up spending more.